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#201
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You don't know if their are sleeper agents still, agents who managed to escape the Alliance, or hidden data caches on other sites.

And the Mars research data is in the hands if the Alliance as well. Even those fools would be smart enought to add two and two to make four.

Sorry but you can't Big Brother an entire galaxy.

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

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The galaxy will know.  You can't conceal the truth forever. There is just too many people who would know.  Shepard obviously, Liara, the other squadmate, EDI, any Cerberus officer with sufficient clearance, anyone who looks at the Mars research later....

My squad is trustworthy, I believe. Cerberus is extinct, and I don't believe the Mars research will be that much of a threat.

What would you do to anyone who did try to reveal what happened?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

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"Known only to the top officials of our government."
If any are still alive, I'll deal with them quietly. Otherwise, no one will ever learn.


Trying to cover up the greatest crime in history? They had a working Prothean VI right under thier nose that could've nipped the Reaper threat in the bud with harly a sweat and THEY HID IT for hundreds to thousands of years. Thus leading to the death of billions!

That needs to be on every extranet site someone can manage.


QFT.  Every tentaclehead who knew about that place needs to end up on a slab.

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Rifneno wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
"Known only to the top officials of our government."
If any are still alive, I'll deal with them quietly. Otherwise, no one will ever learn.


Trying to cover up the greatest crime in history? They had a working Prothean VI right under thier nose that could've nipped the Reaper threat in the bud with harly a sweat and THEY HID IT for hundreds to thousands of years. Thus leading to the death of billions!

That needs to be on every extranet site someone can manage.

QFT.  Every tentaclehead who knew about that place needs to end up on a slab.

I think stripping the Asari of council membership would be a much more potent statement than offing the matriarchs.

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Steelcan wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
"Known only to the top officials of our government."
If any are still alive, I'll deal with them quietly. Otherwise, no one will ever learn.


Trying to cover up the greatest crime in history? They had a working Prothean VI right under thier nose that could've nipped the Reaper threat in the bud with harly a sweat and THEY HID IT for hundreds to thousands of years. Thus leading to the death of billions!

That needs to be on every extranet site someone can manage.

QFT.  Every tentaclehead who knew about that place needs to end up on a slab.

I think stripping the Asari of council membership would be a much more potent statement than offing the matriarchs.


It's an either/or thing?  I say do both.

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What would you do to anyone who did try to reveal what happened?

It depends on the circumstances and the person. Although a tempting tactic is to, before anyone tries, flood the extranet with bull**** conspiracy theories about the war so that no one will pay any particular attention to the asari beacon one (and I can ensure that all evidence is erased when I rebuild Thessia).

Trying to cover up the greatest crime in history? They had a working Prothean VI right under thier nose that could've nipped the Reaper threat in the bud with harly a sweat and THEY HID IT for hundreds to thousands of years. Thus leading to the death of billions!

Truth is the servant of welfare, and this truth would do insufficient good and too much harm.

QFT. Every tentaclehead who knew about that place needs to end up on a slab.

Already taken care of, courtesy of the Catalyst.

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Rifneno wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

I think stripping the Asari of council membership would be a much more potent statement than offing the matriarchs.


It's an either/or thing?  I say do both.


Is rather ey live in disgrace, maybe the other races will do the dirty work for us?  I don't think the Turians will be too happy when they find out that Asari could have saved a palaver but didnt lift a finger to do so.

Christ my grammar is abysmal right now.

Modifié par Steelcan, 27 décembre 2012 - 06:36 .


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Xilizhra wrote...


Trying to cover up the greatest crime in history? They had a working Prothean VI right under thier nose that could've nipped the Reaper threat in the bud with harly a sweat and THEY HID IT for hundreds to thousands of years. Thus leading to the death of billions!

Truth is the servant of welfare, and this truth would do insufficient good and too much harm.
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too much harm to the Asari you mean.

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Xilizhra wrote...

What would you do to anyone who did try to reveal what happened?

It depends on the circumstances and the person. Although a tempting tactic is to, before anyone tries, flood the extranet with bull**** conspiracy theories about the war so that no one will pay any particular attention to the asari beacon one (and I can ensure that all evidence is erased when I rebuild Thessia).

Trying to cover up the greatest crime in history? They had a working Prothean VI right under thier nose that could've nipped the Reaper threat in the bud with harly a sweat and THEY HID IT for hundreds to thousands of years. Thus leading to the death of billions!

Truth is the servant of welfare, and this truth would do insufficient good and too much harm.

QFT. Every tentaclehead who knew about that place needs to end up on a slab.

Already taken care of, courtesy of the Catalyst.

So, yeah... what Steelcan said. KGB.

Rewrite history through a campaign of misinformation, destroy any remaining evidence, and bump off anyone left who knew about it beforehand.

How is this "system" you espouse not a dictatorship? Wouldn't say I "hate her to death," as you said of mine, but I'm glad your Shepard isn't in my universe.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 27 décembre 2012 - 06:39 .


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Xilizhra wrote...
Truth is the servant of welfare, and this truth would do insufficient good and too much harm.


The only harm would be to the Asari... who deserve it. Everyone else will benefit and be on the level with the cheating b**ches that are the Asari.

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
Truth is the servant of welfare, and this truth would do insufficient good and too much harm.


The only harm would be to the Asari... who deserve it. Everyone else will benefit and be on the level with the cheating b**ches that are the Asari.

Appaarntly it's better for the galaxy to burn than the Asari admit they messed up

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Steelcan wrote...

Appaarntly it's better for the galaxy to burn than the Asari admit they messed up


And cheated and lied because to hell with those other species, the Asari are so awesome they can break thier own rules!

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Rewrite history through a campaign of misinformation, destroy any remaining evidence, and bump off anyone left who knew about it beforehand.

No, what I meant is that the original Catalyst killed off the officials, not me. If any of them were still alive, I suspect that they'd already have every motive they'd need to keep quiet, so they would likely return to Thessia and be strongly encouraged to retire from politics, preferably while thinking about what the ramifications of their actions were.
As for the rest, what I want is to ensure the least amount of harm. This knowledge won't help anyone else and it'll hurt the asari, so I see no reason to let it survive. In any case, Thessian culture seems to be the most advantageous one in a peacetime society, which is what my galaxy will be.

This is the only major issue not related to defense that I would see a need to intervene in, however.

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 Xilizhra you have inspired me, this is what Thessia will look like if I ever do a control Shepwebkit-fake-url://3F01FB27-CFAF-4D07-B3FB-8676F808437E/imagejpeg


damn.  Well it's a glassed planet.  Very intimidating and scary...http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Harvest

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Xilizhra wrote...

Rewrite history through a campaign of misinformation, destroy any remaining evidence, and bump off anyone left who knew about it beforehand.

No, what I meant is that the original Catalyst killed off the officials, not me. If any of them were still alive, I suspect that they'd already have every motive they'd need to keep quiet, so they would likely return to Thessia and be strongly encouraged to retire from politics, preferably while thinking about what the ramifications of their actions were.
As for the rest, what I want is to ensure the least amount of harm. This knowledge won't help anyone else and it'll hurt the asari, so I see no reason to let it survive. In any case, Thessian culture seems to be the most advantageous one in a peacetime society, which is what my galaxy will be.

This is the only major issue not related to defense that I would see a need to intervene in, however.


"War is Peace"

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Steelcan wrote...

 Xilizhra you have inspired me, this is what Thessia will look like if I ever do a control Shepwebkit-fake-url://3F01FB27-CFAF-4D07-B3FB-8676F808437E/imagejpeg


damn.  Well it's a glassed planet.  Very intimidating and scary...http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Harvest


Huh.  Still looks more livable than what I've in mind for Khar'shan.

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Rifneno wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

 Xilizhra you have inspired me, this is what Thessia will look like if I ever do a control Shepwebkit-fake-url://3F01FB27-CFAF-4D07-B3FB-8676F808437E/imagejpeg


damn.  Well it's a glassed planet.  Very intimidating and scary...http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Harvest


Huh.  Still looks more livable than what I've in mind for Khar'shan.


At least the Batarians committed everything into the fight.

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Rifneno wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

 Xilizhra you have inspired me, this is what Thessia will look like if I ever do a control Shepwebkit-fake-url://3F01FB27-CFAF-4D07-B3FB-8676F808437E/imagejpeg


damn.  Well it's a glassed planet.  Very intimidating and scary...http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Harvest


Huh.  Still looks more livable than what I've in mind for Khar'shan.

I call it... Omega 2.0 :D

Image IPB

The top half's still good!

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

 Xilizhra you have inspired me, this is what Thessia will look like if I ever do a control Shepwebkit-fake-url://3F01FB27-CFAF-4D07-B3FB-8676F808437E/imagejpeg


damn.  Well it's a glassed planet.  Very intimidating and scary...http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Harvest


Huh.  Still looks more livable than what I've in mind for Khar'shan.

I call it... Omega 2.0 :D

Image IPB


*wipes away a tear*  It's just... so beautiful...

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And this is exactly why I need to make sure that this information doesn't get out. The galaxy is full of too many clods who'll conflate government and race.

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Xilizhra wrote...

And this is exactly why I need to make sure that this information doesn't get out. The galaxy is full of too many clods who'll conflate government and race.


http://en.wikipedia...._Brother_(1984)

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#222
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Steelcan wrote...

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And this is exactly why I need to make sure that this information doesn't get out. The galaxy is full of too many clods who'll conflate government and race.


http://en.wikipedia...._Brother_(1984)

Because classifying information immediately turns you into a hokey Stalinist fantasy?

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Xilizhra wrote...

And this is exactly why I need to make sure that this information doesn't get out. The galaxy is full of too many clods who'll conflate government and race.


You remind me a lot of the Prophet of Truth from Halo.  He started a campaign of genocide against humanity so that the Covenant Religion wouldn't be exposed as a hoax, the massive power and influence didnt hurt either,.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

And this is exactly why I need to make sure that this information doesn't get out. The galaxy is full of too many clods who'll conflate government and race.


http://en.wikipedia...._Brother_(1984)

Because classifying information immediately turns you into a hokey Stalinist fantasy?


When it is done to maintain the rule of an oppressive ruling class, you bet.

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Xilizhra wrote...

And this is exactly why I need to make sure that this information doesn't get out. The galaxy is full of too many clods who'll conflate government and race.

Odd. For being so xenophilic, it seemed to me the Asari vocalized more racism - even against fellow members of their own species - than any other race. Half of the background conversations on Illium, those two whinging on the Citadel, the one talking to Ereba about Charr "not knowing who to fight"...