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[Beta Commando]

I posted a comment supporting this earlier and i will post one to support again. Why should they have to do all the hard work we did, it wouldn´t be justified? Oh please you creedy people. Are you so full of yourself that you will be anything against a thing that would make it easier for the new players to get into the game, make Bioware more money thanks to that so they can support this awesome MP longer time just because your ego does not allow you to think anybody else than you and your "hardly earned credits and stuff".

Man am I in a mean mood today or what?

Modifié par Beta Commando, 14 janvier 2013 - 09:33 .

[OniAngel]

 The times I do get around to doing a gold, I ether get an okay group and burn a few gels or get a bad group and burn all my gels and other consumables and walk away with little to nothing. Then there are nights where there are bad silver groups all around and I am carring players with over twice my n7 rating and burning consumables.

Modifié par OniAngel, 15 janvier 2013 - 10:44 .

[Slappy]

nicethugbert wrote...

Slappy wrote...

I don't support this.
Reasons:

1) There has to be a learning curve, why would you want to get better if you can farm that easily?
2) Nothing wrong with randoms going into gold/plat games, sure it can be annoying, but it sure adds flavor to the game, and some "noobs" might surprise you.
3) Does it matter how long it takes to max out the manifest? No it doesn't.

It's a ****ing game for ****s sakes and I'm not going to spend my life trying to unlock it all.  I want to play it to it's fullest, on the side because I have other things to do and it's just a game, it's nothing so serious that I should have to get better at it.

That is your opinion, but as others have stated here before, giving more credits for lower difficulties only results in one thing, people getting their manifests unlocked much earlier, and hence it WILL kill the ME multiplayer much sooner.

But of course you don't care about that, since your planning on wasting as little time as possible on this game.

[SlimJim0725]

Back for one day bump. RNG is still RNG, this just helps players speed up the process. And to people saying "it will kill the game," I know far more people that quit the game because of not unlocking weapons/gears/characters than I do people that quit because they maxed their manifest (in reality, it simply allows you more choices. That is coming from someone who played a fair amount of time after maxing it.)

[Lyrandori]

I agree, but it won't happen.

[SlimJim0725]

Lyrandori wrote...

I agree, but it won't happen.

You are likely correct, but it doesn't hurt to post ideas.

[Mopbucket2]

I'm mediocre at FPS games. I play platinum and am usually in the top 2 in the groups I play. Full extract almost all of the time. My point is you don't have to be amazing to play gold/plat. You just have to learn how the game works.

In other words:

Find friends who are willing to learn the game mechanics, learn to play with them, reap rewards. Spend less time complaining about credits. You'll find the game is a lot more fun when you're learning with friends rather than thinking your manifest.

[Kaelis_33]

The real issue plaguing this game is the garbage you get buying equipment packs. Why are medigels so rare? I am tired of having zero medigels all the time. Nothing more annoying than suffering through a match with no medigels, dumping 99k on an expensive pack and not even getting medigels or anything remotely useful.

This is the sole reason I dont recomend this game to my friends nor will I buy ME 4. That and getting stomp executed, because it just pissed me off even more because i always have ZERO medigels. So I can't avoid it.

This needs to be fixed

[Windfall27]

The single issue with this is that Bioware needs to make money off the game and this affects that. Perhaps they could put out packs containing 3+ rares or 1+ UR that were available exclusively via cash purchase.

Fully support the idea.

[HiddenInWar]

You have my axe OP.

[SlimJim0725]

Mopbucket2 wrote...

I'm mediocre at FPS games. I play platinum and am usually in the top 2 in the groups I play. Full extract almost all of the time. My point is you don't have to be amazing to play gold/plat. You just have to learn how the game works.

In other words:

Find friends who are willing to learn the game mechanics, learn to play with them, reap rewards. Spend less time complaining about credits. You'll find the game is a lot more fun when you're learning with friends rather than thinking your manifest.

There are tons of people that simply don't have that amount of time to learn game mechanics, etc. and there are very few helpful people I have ever come across on BSN (quite a few are considered "elitist" and decided to stop helping players due to that).

Also, I personally couldn't care less about credits at this point. I am sitting on 23 million with nothing to spend it on. However, I do have a friend that is fairly new to the game that even dropped a bunch of real money on packs and still has a pretty pathetic manifest. RNG is terrible and nobody should have to put in 400 or more hours into a game such as this one to unlock all the weapons and characters (assuming they play pretty much Gold and Platinum to start). 

I personally had quite a bit more fun after I maxed my manifest. I started playing characters I wasn't very good with, trying new builds, etc. which I would not have done before. For a lot of people this was their first MP game (meaning they didn't have friends built up from other games) and many don't know about BSN (or they leave do to the wonderful trolling that is always going on around here).  

[SlimJim0725]

Kaelis_33 wrote...

The real issue plaguing this game is the garbage you get buying equipment packs. Why are medigels so rare? I am tired of having zero medigels all the time. Nothing more annoying than suffering through a match with no medigels, dumping 99k on an expensive pack and not even getting medigels or anything remotely useful.

This is the sole reason I dont recomend this game to my friends nor will I buy ME 4. That and getting stomp executed, because it just pissed me off even more because i always have ZERO medigels. So I can't avoid it.

This needs to be fixed

Step 1: Buy Jumbo Equipment Pack
Step 2: Get at least +5 of the consumables you need
Step 3: ????
Step 4: Profit!

(and it is only 33k!)

[sliven020]

I actually think this is a good idea, it'll keep all the noobs, who are still learning the way to play, in their respective difficulties. Unfortunately, I don't really see this credit increase happening anytime soon, but one can dream.

[swjobson]

If not this, then move all the original rare cards down to uncommon.

[clopin]

Kaelis_33 wrote...

The real issue plaguing this game is the garbage you get buying equipment packs. Why are medigels so rare? I am tired of having zero medigels all the time. Nothing more annoying than suffering through a match with no medigels, dumping 99k on an expensive pack and not even getting medigels or anything remotely useful.

This is the sole reason I dont recomend this game to my friends nor will I buy ME 4. That and getting stomp executed, because it just pissed me off even more because i always have ZERO medigels. So I can't avoid it.

This needs to be fixed

Uhm... Jumbo Equipment Packs?

And I support this.

[Kaelis_33]

clopin wrote...

Kaelis_33 wrote...

The real issue plaguing this game is the garbage you get buying equipment packs. Why are medigels so rare? I am tired of having zero medigels all the time. Nothing more annoying than suffering through a match with no medigels, dumping 99k on an expensive pack and not even getting medigels or anything remotely useful.

This is the sole reason I dont recomend this game to my friends nor will I buy ME 4. That and getting stomp executed, because it just pissed me off even more because i always have ZERO medigels. So I can't avoid it.

This needs to be fixed

Uhm... Jumbo Equipment Packs?

And I support this.

Why should I need to buy Jumbo packs specifically for medi gels? I manage to get ops and ammo packs till my eyes bleed. Also starting new, you have about a millions weapons and mods to get...just to reach some semblance of parity with other players. Dumping 33k every run or every other run on a jumbo pack is a bit much.

Medigels should be much more common, its awful runnign very match with zero medigels. I am tired of it, and that plus the lame executions that the NPCs perform is enough to make me want to snap the game discs in half...if we still even used them. Seriously ME 4 is a no go for me, until this sadistic krap is adjusted somehow. 


 

[clopin]

Kaelis_33 wrote...

clopin wrote...

Kaelis_33 wrote...

The real issue plaguing this game is the garbage you get buying equipment packs. Why are medigels so rare? I am tired of having zero medigels all the time. Nothing more annoying than suffering through a match with no medigels, dumping 99k on an expensive pack and not even getting medigels or anything remotely useful.

This is the sole reason I dont recomend this game to my friends nor will I buy ME 4. That and getting stomp executed, because it just pissed me off even more because i always have ZERO medigels. So I can't avoid it.

This needs to be fixed

Uhm... Jumbo Equipment Packs?

And I support this.

Why should I need to buy Jumbo packs specifically for medi gels? I manage to get ops and ammo packs till my eyes bleed. Also starting new, you have about a millions weapons and mods to get...just to reach some semblance of parity with other players. Dumping 33k every run or every other run on a jumbo pack is a bit much.

Medigels should be much more common, its awful runnign very match with zero medigels. I am tired of it, and that plus the lame executions that the NPCs perform is enough to make me want to snap the game discs in half...if we still even used them. Seriously ME 4 is a no go for me, until this sadistic krap is adjusted somehow. 


 

Well, if not having enough gels (even though there is a very easy way to stock up on them) is enough to turn you off to ME3 and ME4 then... well I'm not sure what to tell you.

Modifié par clopin, 03 février 2013 - 05:18 .

[Kaelis_33]

One thing people need to understand is how long it takes to get weapons ranked up. When the pool of weapons was relatively small, or smaller. You had less weapons to upgrade so the ones you did upgrade were higher level overall.

Now I can't see an end to the guns I need to upgrade, much less get UR weps anywhere I need. I have a Wraith IV. Its my best UR....al the rest or more or less rank one. I still play gold and lately I come in top place on score, though I could care less, I more or less chill and do objectives. Still though I am managing a lot better now. But still playing w/o medigels and decent weapons does suck a lot.

[Kaelis_33]

clopin wrote...

Kaelis_33 wrote...

clopin wrote...

Kaelis_33 wrote...

The real issue plaguing this game is the garbage you get buying equipment packs. Why are medigels so rare? I am tired of having zero medigels all the time. Nothing more annoying than suffering through a match with no medigels, dumping 99k on an expensive pack and not even getting medigels or anything remotely useful.

This is the sole reason I dont recomend this game to my friends nor will I buy ME 4. That and getting stomp executed, because it just pissed me off even more because i always have ZERO medigels. So I can't avoid it.

This needs to be fixed

Uhm... Jumbo Equipment Packs?

And I support this.

Why should I need to buy Jumbo packs specifically for medi gels? I manage to get ops and ammo packs till my eyes bleed. Also starting new, you have about a millions weapons and mods to get...just to reach some semblance of parity with other players. Dumping 33k every run or every other run on a jumbo pack is a bit much.

Medigels should be much more common, its awful runnign very match with zero medigels. I am tired of it, and that plus the lame executions that the NPCs perform is enough to make me want to snap the game discs in half...if we still even used them. Seriously ME 4 is a no go for me, until this sadistic krap is adjusted somehow. 


 

Well, if not having enough gels (even though there is a very easy way to stock up on them) is enough to turn you off to ME3 and ME4 then... well I'm not sure what to tell you.

Its no easy, really grind is bad enough as it is, w/o having to buy a overpriced pack specifically for medigels. Sometimes I think its the cash shop side of this game, Every game with a cash shop in it has these kinds of issues.

[clopin]

Kaelis_33 wrote...

One thing people need to understand is how long it takes to get weapons ranked up. When the pool of weapons was relatively small, or smaller. You had less weapons to upgrade so the ones you did upgrade were higher level overall.

Now I can't see an end to the guns I need to upgrade, much less get UR weps anywhere I need. I have a Wraith IV. Its my best UR....al the rest or more or less rank one. I still play gold and lately I come in top place on score, though I could care less, I more or less chill and do objectives. Still though I am managing a lot better now. But still playing w/o medigels and decent weapons does suck a lot.

I actually do agree on this however. Coming back after an extended hiatus is beyond painful. The amount of credits I need to earn to at least unlock (not even max out) is absurd for someone that hasn't been playing consistently since launch.

[NT121784]

I think the system is fine the way it is. Learn slow, remember longer.
I had to work my way up, and I think it was good for me.
If anything, just make packs better, or give better starting equipment.
Maybe give the option to choose your first extra kit, within limits, and
give a UR that works for that class.

[Kaelis_33]

NT121784 wrote...

I think the system is fine the way it is. Learn slow, remember longer.
I had to work my way up, and I think it was good for me.
If anything, just make packs better, or give better starting equipment.
Maybe give the option to choose your first extra kit, within limits, and
give a UR that works for that class.

You did not have to work your way up the same way. You were able to max the existing pool of weapons fasters (as there were much less to begin with) and thus play competively with better gear the whole time. People playing now have to rank up a ton of guns and equipment from rank 1. The chances of getting the same gun upgraded again and again is slim, so you end up with a bucnh of rank one or low ranking guns.

Completely different situation.

[crashmatusow]

Hey guys, remember when games stood on the strength of their gameplay, and not on the lure of possibly receiving a 5% damage upgrade...yeah.

I will not be returning for me4's mp if it is such a blatant cash grab as this.

[Kaelis_33]

crashmatusow wrote...

Hey guys, remember when games stood on the strength of their gameplay, and not on the lure of possibly receiving a 5% damage upgrade...yeah.

I will not be returning for me4's mp if it is such a blatant cash grab as this.

The sad thing is I would spend money on bioware points if I wasn't medigel deprived. It is like those "free 2 play" android games, always a bloody nightmare to play but you can buy things to make the gameplay bearable. And for me the way I see it the ridiculous NPC downed executions plus the scarcity of medigels in packs you buy is reminiscent of these cheap android games. Trying to make the gameplay so annoying that you give in and pay to make it better.

I won't give them a dime as long as I feel this is the case. Now I don't know if bioware intends this or not really. But it sucks big time. And I have adopted the 30 second rule....when I get executed on the ground, I count to 30. If by that time I am not in game running around shooting and playing I straight up quit. The only time I might not do it is when I am with a really good decent group who is really trying, then I can containt the rage at A) having no medigels and b)getting killed by a garbage game mechanic. 

[TriniWarlord]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

L2P scrub.

In all seriousness, I agree with this. The added benefit would be that Bronze/Silver gamers probably wouldn't play Gold just for the creds. Resulting in better PUGs.

I like ur logic, too many Gold PUG's are terrible