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[dreamgazer]

It's not one thing, but three:

Voiced by a PSP-licking employee at a video-game news/review site---a pandering conflict of interests if there ever was one---Allers took a spot that an established reporter character deserved and ate up resources that were direly needed elsewhere. Bad, bad move.

[Killdren88]

anorling wrote...




Christmas joy by Javik

I like this Prothean. He understands.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Darth Malice113 wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

- don't let Diana Allers onto the ship (she'll apparently go on another ship that gets blown up)

REALLY? :lol::lol:

Yes if you refuse to let her come onboard, or kick off your ship at some point. She gets posted on the dreadnought SSV Shasta, witch is lost with all hands at the Horse Head Nebula.

Made. My. Day.

[Dean_the_Young]

dreamgazer wrote...

It's not one thing, but three:

Voiced by a PSP-licking employee at a video-game news/review site---a pandering conflict of interests if there ever was one---Allers took a spot that an established reporter character deserved and ate up resources that were direly needed elsewhere. Bad, bad move.

What support do you have for this?

The three biggest costs would have been that she has a unique character model, voice acting, and writing span.

The unique character model would likely have applied to any dedicated correspondent character brought in on the ship (including, yes, making one for Emily Wong, who never had one made in ME2). The only established reporter character who already had a ME2/ME3 engine character model and voice actor role established was 'let's punch her out', who had multiple games of being far from an even halfway sympathetic character.

Now, were their parts of the game which would have been turned around by freeing up the space of one character model's development cycle? Well, that wouldn't exactly make a revamped priority-earth, and most complaints of the game have been in the writing department, not the a lack of character designs.


The second issue, monetary  cost, assumes that Chobot costs an exceptional amount to bring aboard. Without financial details that would be pure speculation at best... and given that Chobot is said to be a big fan of the ME series, she might have worked out a deal to work at less than typical cost, just for the opportunity.

Now, even assuming there was an above average cost, was the game suffering from a lack of money? Most criticism comes in at the end of the game, and between that and the nature of the war asset systems and the rumors of the ME3 delay only being a part of what was asked for, the biggest resource crunch appears to have been time restraints producing a rushed end-game, not finances.


But hey, let's go with that. Writing dialogue for her takes time, right? Time that could have been used to better develop the Catalyst or whatnot?

Well, sure, if all writing time were interchangeable... but that would have been true of any reporter character, and it's not even clear to me how much 'wasted' dialogue she really had. The vast majority of Diana's dialogue is strictly on-topic, lore-developing, and otherwise almost entirely interchangeable with any somewhat professional reporter character. She has an introduction scene that's hardly extravagent or longer than a Emily Wong re-introduction/invitation onto the Normandy would have been, and her own character's backstory ambiant dialogue would work just as well in the mouth of Emily Wong as anyone else with an undefined background which can be used to describe the Reaper's advances. And unless you want to try and argue an unprovable and claim that Emily Wong would have been unique on the ship and not offered ambiant dialogue...

So, at least in the writing time, I really, really don't see how Diana Allers took up time and attention that wouldn't have been just as consumed by any other reporter character. That's a criticism on the role she filled, rather than the character in particular.

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 28 décembre 2012 - 12:34 .

[ElSuperGecko]

Because there were already two reporters in the Mass Effect universe who would have been more relevant, interesting and believable in the role.

[Dean_the_Young]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Because there were already two reporters in the Mass Effect universe who would have been more relevant, interesting and believable in the role.

Relevant? Not sure how either Emily Wong or Al'Jilani were particularly 'relevant.' Familiar, perhaps, but they were never tied into the main plotlines.

Interesting? Matter of opinion, I suppose. Al'Jilani was a made-to-hate character who's primary role was to boost the player's ego by proving how eloquent Shepard could be over the nasty, unfair critism of the player's choices (as all such critisms of the player happen to be). Emily Wong was certainly a good deal more sympathetic, so I suppose I could see people being more interesting in an established sympathetic character than someone they haven't gotten to know yet... though, of course, if Bioware didn't create new characters to get to know then ME2 never would have been.

Believable? Not sure I'd agree with that. Diana Aller's basis was very solid in her own right: a reporter in a military-press position without an established tie-down to keep her away and every reason to seek out Shepard's crew. Al'Jilani's made-to-hate status, and past history, would discourage her as a live-in reporter: few people would want her if she was true to character-style, ie rude, abrasive, and contemptable. Emily Wong, who never expressed interest in anything but her civilian/Citadel-side reporting (more interested in local crime or traffic than in Shepard's exploits) would have needed to justify stepping down from an established position (Citadel News anchor) to put herself in danger (which she used Shepard to avoid) for a reporting track she's never demonstrated.


Not saying it couldn't be done, of course, or be enjoyed more. But of those, the only part I'd agree with would be 'interesting', with a caveat.

[Urdnot_Bucdawg]

Codename_Code wrote...

a real life reporter was a good idea but failed... but its the internets, you dont really need a reason to hate

If they wanted to use a gaming reporter/celeb\\fangirl, There's better ones out there; Felicia Day (a respectable job on DA2\\MotA, not to mention her web DA series), Kristin Adams, Olivia Munn for starters.
The only reason Jessica Cobot was chosen IMO was to get some free pub on IGN not to mention the G4 network. Her "acting" as as flat as stadium beer.

Modifié par Urdnot_Bucdawg, 28 décembre 2012 - 02:41 .

[Grubas]

Did bioware actually explained why Chobot is in the game? Did Chobot sleep with one of the devs... or.. i don't know. Why is she in the game?

[Dr_Extrem]

Grubas wrote...

Did bioware actually explained why Chobot is in the game? Did Chobot sleep with one of the devs... or.. i don't know. Why is she in the game?

favour maybe? 

.. even if she was asked by the bioware team - without any hidden agenda - she should have refused the offer. she considers herself a journalist - and as a journalist, she has to be neutral.

participating in a game, is not being neutral.

[Grubas]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Did bioware actually explained why Chobot is in the game? Did Chobot sleep with one of the devs... or.. i don't know. Why is she in the game?

favour maybe? 

.. even if she was asked by the bioware team - without any hidden agenda - she should have refused the offer. she considers herself a journalist - and as a journalist, she has to be neutral.

participating in a game, is not being neutral.

Seriously... Did they ever coment... a little bit.. at some point...

[Massa FX]

Maybe the VA for Emily Wong refused to come back for whatever reason, and so they killed the character. Then hired chaboot (so?). If I were chaboot, I would be disappointed in the look of Allers and the VA direction (Caroline?).

Or... chaboot was really hard to direct?

Don't know. I do know that I cringe whenever Allers speaks and I can't take my eyes off her unfortunately swollen chipmunk cheeks and weird eyes. Very unfortunate art effort. Her walk animation... wth?

[Sousabird]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I never let the "battletits" onto my ship.

Which for some bizarre reason means Zaeed's old room remains forever locked throughout the game, so I can't pass the time ejecting garbage into space.

[NM_Che56]

They made her look like Blackie Lawless and her voice acting was sub-par (sorry J-Cho).

[Sir George Parr]

anorling wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

This thread makes me want to change avi again...

I like Diana, haters can hate on her all they want.

Ah, yes, ‘Haters’. The persistent race of sentient forumites allegedly waiting in cyber space. We have dismissed this claim

The poor man's Emily Wong 

[NM_Che56]

OMG...she's Blackie Lawless...

[Zehealingman]

She doesn't want to feed my fish.

[Dr_Extrem]

XM-417 wrote...

anorling wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

This thread makes me want to change avi again...

I like Diana, haters can hate on her all they want.

Ah, yes, ‘Haters’. The persistent race of sentient forumites allegedly waiting in cyber space. We have dismissed this claim

The poor man's Emily Wong 

whenever i see this picture, i feel like howard in this clip.

[RocketManSR2]

XM-417 wrote...

anorling wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

This thread makes me want to change avi again...

I like Diana, haters can hate on her all they want.

*Ugly picture snip*

Ah, yes, ‘Haters’. The persistent race of sentient forumites allegedly waiting in cyber space. We have dismissed this claim

The poor man's Emily Wong 

Holy crap, that screenshot actually makes her look even worse than usual. Been hitting the Red Sand kind of hard, apparently.

[SpamBot2000]

Because EAware are so arrogant that it never even occurred to them there was a problem with them flaunting their conflicts of interest with major review site.

[d1ta]

*Looks at Aller's pic in this thread*
... Damn that's scary.

I think I wouldn't mind her much if BW made better dedication to other existing squaddies first such as rendering Tali's face on Rannoch, or even give Miranda a new set of clothing / armor since she is on the run avoiding Cerberus.

Idk, maybe it's just that the way I see it, it's a lot more easier working on an existing character (like Wong and Khalisah) compared to making a full render of a real person's face (and the resulting image is still kinda 'off' despite their serious effort, imho) and yes, her voice acting didn't help either. But I wouldn't say I hate her though,, just not too crazy about her character (the concept of war reporter is good, just not the execution of it)

It would've been cool if you can pick either Khalisah or Emily to join your boat (Emily even reminded you via e-mail in ME2 about your promise on giving her exclusive interviews anyway) too bad about that twitter death, though...

Then again, maybe Chobot volunteered to do it for free or with a small charge that's just next to nothing and Emily Wong's VA can't return for some reasons *shrugs*

[Bob Garbage]

It's not 'too bad', it's god damn retarded. Everything about Aller's existence doesn't make sense when even just a couple other details are considered. She is one of the many ways bioware made it CLEAR they were no longer making games for the people that supported them before EA's take over.

[ElementL09]

She's a reporter on the Normandy. We have like 2 reporters that Shepard has history with that would be a much better fit. Also, she's a new character that doesn't have much of a personality, like she doesn't belong on the Normandy, she doesn't have much or any banter with anyother character....its like whats the point of her character.

I wanted to get to know her (not like romance or anything) just get to know her character more like I did others of the franchise and I didn't get that, I got a bland, useless character. Its not like dislike Jessica Chobot or anything, I just think if your going to introduce a new character that players can recruit on the Normandy, they should be given some character or some useful purpose for the player.

Really the more I think about, Diana Allers inclusion was just some kind of promotion or something. Its less hate, just disappointment.

[RogueBot]

It's a little weird to me why they included a dull character and spent the time modeling and writing it, just so they could get Chobot to voice it. Do they really get that much mileage with IGN out of this?

[Bill Casey]

I liked the Diana Allers character a lot more once I noticed her room was full of liquor...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 28 décembre 2012 - 09:01 .

[dgcatanisiri]

Honestly, I don't hate her. I'm ultimately just neutral on her. I don't mind having her around, I don't even have a problem with her voice acting. I DO hate her outfit (mini-skirt and sandals? First term of agreement of letting her on the Normandy is that she requires a practical attire), and I hate that the interviews take place in Shepard's cabin (that's unprofessional in the extreme, and Shepard's cabin should be his/her refuge from the war, not a place they invite the cameras into), and, of course, there's the pointless fling of their hook-up (it's not even worth being called a romance).

What does bug me is the wasted potential - there should have been proper interviews, to expand Shepard's characterization and personality and decision making, even some call backs to earlier decisions - something like "If you knew what the Reapers would do to the rachni queen, would you still let her go on Noveria?" or something like that. But I don't hate Allers (and, for the record, I do not hate Jessica Chobot, either, as she didn't choose her outfit or what the character said/did, and is not a professional VA). Just... disappointed in a character who could have been more.