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[Doctor Trick]

MP-Ryan wrote...

I *think* it's actually that you get hit by the acid, swarmers (which you don't see), first cannon shot, and bullets near-simultaneously. It only happens in close-quarters, so it clearly has something to do with the Ravager melee-range attacks.

The thing is a Raveger doesn't have a melee attack and if you are close enough it can't line up a shot. If the Ravager has no sacks left and there are no swarmers or acid, the Ravager will basically be harmless.

So now we have Vanguards, the Valkyrie and the Destroyer.

[ZoM_Head]

 Here is my Fury character.
Same build as the Valkyrie, in terms of AF and health.
Took on three Ravagers, if at closer distance than what i did with the Valkyrie, no health gate drops, no loss of shields. Last Ravager was in touching distance and nothing happened.
You are all welcome to check my full characters,inventory, mainifest etc in my N7HQ (link in Sig) to confirm both builds are pretty much the "same" (where it counts).

youtu.be/vr8B68HY1P0

Modifié par ZoM_Head, 28 décembre 2012 - 08:31 .

[UnknownMercenary]

Why do you keep spelling it Ravanger

[ZoM_Head]

Doctor Trick wrote...

MP-Ryan wrote...

I *think* it's actually that you get hit by the acid, swarmers (which you don't see), first cannon shot, and bullets near-simultaneously. It only happens in close-quarters, so it clearly has something to do with the Ravager melee-range attacks.

The thing is a Raveger doesn't have a melee attack and if you are close enough it can't line up a shot. If the Ravager has no sacks left and there are no swarmers or acid, the Ravager will basically be harmless.

So now we have Vanguards, the Valkyrie and the Destroyer.

Try a BC on a Marauder, sometimes they will start their melee animation, just as you "Locked on" and about to charge. Which will mean, that by the time you "charge" them, they take no damage and you get melee'd (which causes you to get stunned).

Does not always happen, but 50/50 chance, like when enemies fire at you across the map when you are cloaked. Another reason for me to ditch VG and Infils all together.

[Swan Killer]

I took the Valkyrie on a spin on Xbox, when I blew a ravager to hell, it barely scratched my barriers. Must be a master race exclusive bug.

[ZoM_Head]

tivesz wrote...

I took the Valkyrie on a spin on Xbox, when I blew a ravager to hell, it barely scratched my barriers. Must be a master race exclusive bug.

Huh huh.....

Enjoy you'r single core, 256 RAM VGA, low ram, low disk space dvd player which requires a TV locked at 24 Hz

[Swan Killer]

ZoM_Head wrote...

tivesz wrote...

I took the Valkyrie on a spin on Xbox, when I blew a ravager to hell, it barely scratched my barriers. Must be a master race exclusive bug.

Huh huh.....

Enjoy you'r single core, 256 RAM VGA, low ram, low disk space dvd player which requires a TV locked at 24 Hz

Thanks, I'm enjoying it a lot . And you enjoy your Valkyrie having the SUDS (Sudden Unexpected Death Syndrome) on the middle of the battlefield, with your 8GB RAM, 2 Terrabyte HDD and 400 dollar VGA. 

Modifié par tivesz, 29 décembre 2012 - 08:30 .

[Badpanzer]

tivesz wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

tivesz wrote...

I took the Valkyrie on a spin on Xbox, when I blew a ravager to hell, it barely scratched my barriers. Must be a master race exclusive bug.

Huh huh.....

Enjoy you'r single core, 256 RAM VGA, low ram, low disk space dvd player which requires a TV locked at 24 Hz

Thanks, I'm enjoying it a lot . And you enjoy your Valkyrie having the SUDS (Sudden Unexpected Death Syndrome) on the middle of the battlefield, with your 8GB RAM, 2 Terrabyte HDD and 400 dollar VGA. 

Well it happens on consoles as well so everyone gets to share this bug.

[Charaxan]

Doctor Trick wrote...

dr_random wrote...

Was that Gold? You take already damage before engaging the ravager, the Cannibals are firing at you. You also lose health before the shield is down. We know that the display lags behind the damage calculation so you must be taking massive damage in that glimpse of time.
What was to your left? If you run right into a spawn and everything fires you not gonna last long.

Yes it was Gold.

Not sure what was on my left, it was the old Firebase White and it was at the start of the wave so I don't think there should have been anything there. But honestly I can't remember as I posted the video early August I probably played that game late July.

Also I slowed the video down to a quarter speed. I noticed that I do get health gated when my shields are at about half. Also all that damage taking me from full shields and three bars of health to dead, happens in under a second.

As far as I can tell the Ravager wasn't looking at me (I was to its side), its blue lazer things weren't on / pointing at me and I can't hear a Ravager shot.

I checked and with the build I was using I would have 825 Health and 1850 Shields. Going off that one bar of health is a fifth of your health, I was on 495 health.

Plus,
On the vid it is clearly written : "Doctor Trick was taken down by ravaNger", so no doubt the ravanger killed you and not swarmer, Marauders or anything else. 

So, you suffered massive hp and shield loss FROM the ravanger, meaning either it is bugged, or it is a consequence of the pierced sacks, or... ? (the vid of the OP shows he get hurt when the sacks explode, you get hurt when you pierce the sacks)

[Swan Killer]

Well it happens on consoles as well so everyone gets to share this bug.

Well it's been avoiding me so far, but sharing is always good I guess 

[Deerber]

It happens to me loads when I play with the fury as well. Basically any character which goes up close to them. Ravagers are quite buggy enemies. I also believe cryo explosions from snap freeze do not trigger right on them.

[Doctor Trick]

I am not sure if this is a new thing or not, but I have had multiple ravagers killing themselves after I hit them with the Krogan Heavy Melee. I hit it with Melee attacks, I get it down to one or two bars, it then pops it sacks and dies without me doing anything else. I even get credited for the kill, with melee.

I didn't get 'insta-killed' by any ravagers, BUT I did get dropped to Health Gate a couple of times. Thinking I was going to die, but on every occasion I was just able to walk away.

The above happened when I was played the Krogan Sentinel from 1 to 20 and Silver and Gold, going mainly Melee only. I was running full melee in fitness and full damage reduction and melee damage on Tech Armour.

Just to clarify this was on XBOX, so it isn't just a PC thing.

[Esrever]

Just used my Valkyrie on Glacier/ Gold/ Reapers. And it does happen.

With AF on and If you're within melee range of the Ravager and you Warp them to detonate, your shield drops and health too. I haven't died against them, but I now have to doge back immediately after casting warp to avoid getting hit with.. Whatever it is.

Edit: I played a few games with the Slayer as well a few days ago, and didn't seem to have this problem. If it happened, it was no where near as bad as what happens with the Valkyrie. And the Ravager I hit had it's back turned and was attacking my teammates.

Modifié par Esrever, 29 décembre 2012 - 01:28 .

[ZoM_Head]

tivesz wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

tivesz wrote...

I took the Valkyrie on a spin on Xbox, when I blew a ravager to hell, it barely scratched my barriers. Must be a master race exclusive bug.

Huh huh.....

Enjoy you'r single core, 256 RAM VGA, low ram, low disk space dvd player which requires a TV locked at 24 Hz

Thanks, I'm enjoying it a lot . And you enjoy your Valkyrie having the SUDS (Sudden Unexpected Death Syndrome) on the middle of the battlefield, with your 8GB RAM, 2 Terrabyte HDD and 400 dollar VGA. 

Dont blame a whole platforum for a single bug for a specific character, where the coding effects it buddy.

[ZoM_Head]

Charaxan wrote...

Doctor Trick wrote...

dr_random wrote...

Was that Gold? You take already damage before engaging the ravager, the Cannibals are firing at you. You also lose health before the shield is down. We know that the display lags behind the damage calculation so you must be taking massive damage in that glimpse of time.
What was to your left? If you run right into a spawn and everything fires you not gonna last long.

Yes it was Gold.

Not sure what was on my left, it was the old Firebase White and it was at the start of the wave so I don't think there should have been anything there. But honestly I can't remember as I posted the video early August I probably played that game late July.

Also I slowed the video down to a quarter speed. I noticed that I do get health gated when my shields are at about half. Also all that damage taking me from full shields and three bars of health to dead, happens in under a second.

As far as I can tell the Ravager wasn't looking at me (I was to its side), its blue lazer things weren't on / pointing at me and I can't hear a Ravager shot.

I checked and with the build I was using I would have 825 Health and 1850 Shields. Going off that one bar of health is a fifth of your health, I was on 495 health.

Plus,
On the vid it is clearly written : "Doctor Trick was taken down by ravaNger", so no doubt the ravanger killed you and not swarmer, Marauders or anything else. 

So, you suffered massive hp and shield loss FROM the ravanger, meaning either it is bugged, or it is a consequence of the pierced sacks, or... ? (the vid of the OP shows he get hurt when the sacks explode, you get hurt when you pierce the sacks)

Did you check the Fury video? how i actually touched the Ravager (last one before the Brute) and not get any damage? In fact, it was with three Ravagers, no issues.

[ZoM_Head]

Esrever wrote...

Just used my Valkyrie on Glacier/ Gold/ Reapers. And it does happen.

With AF on and If you're within melee range of the Ravager and you Warp them to detonate, your shield drops and health too. I haven't died against them, but I now have to doge back immediately after casting warp to avoid getting hit with.. Whatever it is.

Edit: I played a few games with the Slayer as well a few days ago, and didn't seem to have this problem. If it happened, it was no where near as bad as what happens with the Valkyrie. And the Ravager I hit had it's back turned and was attacking my teammates.

I do the same thing with the Fury, no shields/health damage taken at all (video on this page on the top).

[Esrever]

ZoM_Head wrote...

Esrever wrote...

Just used my Valkyrie on Glacier/ Gold/ Reapers. And it does happen.

With AF on and If you're within melee range of the Ravager and you Warp them to detonate, your shield drops and health too. I haven't died against them, but I now have to doge back immediately after casting warp to avoid getting hit with.. Whatever it is.

Edit: I played a few games with the Slayer as well a few days ago, and didn't seem to have this problem. If it happened, it was no where near as bad as what happens with the Valkyrie. And the Ravager I hit had it's back turned and was attacking my teammates.

I do the same thing with the Fury, no shields/health damage taken at all (video on this page on the top).

Yeah saw that. So is it more a Valkyrie bug? Maybe with Warp? Who knows.

[Zoetropes]

Eh, I play Valkyrie vs. Reapers a lot (call me lazy =P) and this happens. I don't want to scrub through my recorded videos to find specific instances of insta-healthgate, they are linked in the sig if anyone feels like verifying that it does indeed happen (all off-host).

Maybe it's a Valkyrie-specific issue, I've just learned to deal with it and figure it's one of "those things that happen". Valkyrie pretty much steamrolls Reapers anyway.

Z.

[ZoM_Head]

Just used a Krogan Soldier, full melee build, also on gold vs Reapers.

No issues again when in rage or non rage mode and taking on Ravagers (melee only).

As of now, i can not duplicate the situation (hitting shield gate/insta death) with any class against a Ravager, except the Valkyrie.

Will keep testing and will link a video, when i can duplicate it with a different class.

[Swan Killer]

ZoM_Head wrote...

tivesz wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

tivesz wrote...

I took the Valkyrie on a spin on Xbox, when I blew a ravager to hell, it barely scratched my barriers. Must be a master race exclusive bug.

Huh huh.....

Enjoy you'r single core, 256 RAM VGA, low ram, low disk space dvd player which requires a TV locked at 24 Hz

Thanks, I'm enjoying it a lot . And you enjoy your Valkyrie having the SUDS (Sudden Unexpected Death Syndrome) on the middle of the battlefield, with your 8GB RAM, 2 Terrabyte HDD and 400 dollar VGA. 

Dont blame a whole platforum for a single bug for a specific character, where the coding effects it buddy.

You insulted "us" console peasants first, so back off "buddy".

[Janus382]

Happens to the Shadow as well. The second SS hits and before the Ravager actually dies, I'm at healthgate.

All in all, I don't mind it, since I expect it.

More annoying is shields recharging and near-death bloody screen sticking around.

[ZoM_Head]

tivesz wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

tivesz wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

tivesz wrote...

I took the Valkyrie on a spin on Xbox, when I blew a ravager to hell, it barely scratched my barriers. Must be a master race exclusive bug.

Huh huh.....

Enjoy you'r single core, 256 RAM VGA, low ram, low disk space dvd player which requires a TV locked at 24 Hz

Thanks, I'm enjoying it a lot . And you enjoy your Valkyrie having the SUDS (Sudden Unexpected Death Syndrome) on the middle of the battlefield, with your 8GB RAM, 2 Terrabyte HDD and 400 dollar VGA. 

Dont blame a whole platforum for a single bug for a specific character, where the coding effects it buddy.

You insulted "us" console peasants first, so back off "buddy".

Do you'rself a favor, scroll up and see who actually started a platform insult.

I defended myself with facts, and i never mentioned "peasants", you did.



Here is you'r quote:

"ivesz wrote...

I took the Valkyrie on a spin on Xbox, when I blew a ravager to hell, it barely scratched my barriers. Must be a master race exclusive bug."

[Swan Killer]

ZoM_Head wrote...

tivesz wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

tivesz wrote...

ZoM_Head wrote...

tivesz wrote...

I took the Valkyrie on a spin on Xbox, when I blew a ravager to hell, it barely scratched my barriers. Must be a master race exclusive bug.

Huh huh.....

Enjoy you'r single core, 256 RAM VGA, low ram, low disk space dvd player which requires a TV locked at 24 Hz

Thanks, I'm enjoying it a lot . And you enjoy your Valkyrie having the SUDS (Sudden Unexpected Death Syndrome) on the middle of the battlefield, with your 8GB RAM, 2 Terrabyte HDD and 400 dollar VGA. 

Dont blame a whole platforum for a single bug for a specific character, where the coding effects it buddy.

You insulted "us" console peasants first, so back off "buddy".

Do you'rself a favor, scroll up and see who actually started a platform insult.

I defended myself with facts, and i never mentioned "peasants", you did.



Here is you'r quote:

"ivesz wrote...

I took the Valkyrie on a spin on Xbox, when I blew a ravager to hell, it barely scratched my barriers. Must be a master race exclusive bug."

Looks like you're sarcasm detector falsely went off. Next time I just (don't post in your threads at all) use the word "PC" to avoid hurting your feelings. 

Modifié par tivesz, 30 décembre 2012 - 04:41 .

[me0120]

Happens to my Drell on occasion. I used my last medigel in a Plat solo from that actually. It's most likely acid release + swarmers. It should never happen if you break the sacs before getting within "acid release" range.