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[Sol Angelica]

Cyonan wrote...
Let's flip this up.

If 3 English speakers are all speaking English and one Norwegian joins, should the English speaks now all go into a private chat or speak Nowegian?

Of course not, because English is the common language, Norwegian is not.

[millahnna]

1) yes BSN is frequently this hostile. I hate it but it is what it is.

2) I personally don't feel it was your intention, but your OP may have come off to many as being a little rude on the topic. Again, personally, I didn't feel that way; seemed like you were just asking the opinion of other forumites. But interpreting tone in text can be tricky, particularly when various posters are not necessarily speaking their own native language. Plus see #1. Lots of folks may just be making assumptions about what you meant and how you meant it.

Seriously, don't take it personally.

[Harbingerpromo]

Dios mio....lo que hay que leer

[Sol Angelica]

cgj wrote...
+ your OP can be seen as insulting, your thought isn't detailed enough there, remember that many replies didn't even read the whole thread

How can it be insulting when I wrote in the first post that I am not a native English speaker?

[Black Phantom]

Sol Angelica wrote...

Cyonan wrote...
Let's flip this up.

If 3 English speakers are all speaking English and one Norwegian joins, should the English speaks now all go into a private chat or speak Nowegian?

Of course not, because English is the common language, Norwegian is not.

This is why I love BSN.

[Homey C-Dawg]

English has been the international language for some time now, yet many non-native english speakers get really offended if you expect them to use it in international settings. You get use to it.

As for me, I don't really care. I play late at night frequently, so I run into a lot of russians. Doesn't concern me none, as long as they know how to play the game. If there just babble endlessly and won't shut up, then I might get annoyed, but that's regardless of the language they speak.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Sol Angelica wrote...

What do you guys think of people who speak a non-English language in a public PUG? I wish everyone would speak English in public ones, and have private teams for your own language. And I am not a native English speaker, but it's annoying to get my headset and mic on, only to hear enthusiastic and constant debates going on in German/Italian/Finnish without me being able to participate, contribute or understand what they are talking about. 

   It's the nature of the international beast that is PUGs. Ultimately, it doesn't make sense to even attempt to convince them not to do it, since they likely wouldn't understand you.

   Think of the upside. They were either lucky enough to find each other randomly, or they planned it that way. Either way, they'll probably function better as a team. As long as you're helping, they'll be happy you're around.

   If they aren't in a private chat channel, you may have to do a little "muting on the run," which gets considerably more difficult on higher difficulty levels. PC users can't do that at all.

   So at that point... enjoy the novelty of the foreign accents, maybe? 

[Learn To Love Yourself]

I enjoy it. It gives me a chance to impersonate a foreign accent as accurately and as offensively as possible. Once I have mastered this, I start to respond to them in Korean.

[GeneralMoskvin_2.0]

I personally think that too. If I am alone in a lobby, I speak English. Period. That counts for everyone. If, for instance, a single dude joins and starts micspamming I am extremely pissed. Especially Germans and Russians are annoying at this (No offense here, I am German myself. Almost. Only a few dozen kilometres away from the border).

[Cyonan]

Sol Angelica wrote...

Cyonan wrote...
Let's flip this up.

If 3 English speakers are all speaking English and one Norwegian joins, should the English speaks now all go into a private chat or speak Nowegian?

Of course not, because English is the common language, Norwegian is not.

So what if one Chinese speaker joins that does not speak English?

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Everything would be better if everyone just spoke Klingon.

Qa'pla

[Kinom001]

As pointed out, it's an international gaming community playing an internationally accessible multiplayer game. You're going to run into other languages in "public" games.

I don't have a mic so for me it's no issue whether the other players are playing from somewhere else.

[Felhand]

I once ran into two russian kids few months after launch it was very odd. Though it dosnt take a genius their high pitched jibberish translated to 'ohmahgerd a banshee is fisting me!'

[N7Kopper]

Cyonan wrote...

Sol Angelica wrote...

Cyonan wrote...
Let's flip this up.

If 3 English speakers are all speaking English and one Norwegian joins, should the English speaks now all go into a private chat or speak Nowegian?

Of course not, because English is the common language, Norwegian is not.

So what if one Chinese speaker joins that does not speak English?

Then if everyone speaks Chinese, they switch it up. If not, tough cookies.

[MadDog_331]

Cosmo G. Spacely wrote...

doesn't matter, i'm sure most will know what a "banshee" is etc.

Ha, ha..................... just the other night I was on with 3 Spanish speaking players. I thought it was great when they would say " El Bruto" or call me " El MadDog". Real fun that was, I only understood the cuss words and a few words I picked up from my vacation on Malli.

[Sol Angelica]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Sol Angelica wrote...

Of course not, because English is the common language, Norwegian is not.

This is why I love BSN.

Sorry, didn't get the connection there?

[Black Phantom]

Sol Angelica wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Sol Angelica wrote...

Of course not, because English is the common language, Norwegian is not.

This is why I love BSN.

Sorry, didn't get the connection there?

It wouldn't be the first time someone's comment went right over your head.

[Shrakelle]

English is the most spoken language in this game, I've only ever come across a non-English speaker once. If you are able to speak English then you should, as it is very likely that that is going to be the only language that eveyone else in your lobby can speak if it is PUG. But it's not realistic to expect every person to be able to speak English, and if they can't, that's fine with me!

[Sol Angelica]

Ashen Earth wrote...

It wouldn't be the first time someone's comment went right over your head.

What? What's the point of answering as rude as this?

[upinya slayin]

Sol Angelica wrote...

What do you guys think of people who speak a non-English language in a public PUG? I wish everyone would speak English in public ones, and have private teams for your own language. And I am not a native English speaker, but it's annoying to get my headset and mic on, only to hear enthusiastic and constant debates going on in German/Italian/Finnish without me being able to participate, contribute or understand what they are talking about. 

i sually come into a lobby and speak klingon. then i blast loud obnoxious music in teh background, then on obejctve waves i blast eye of the tiger and sing along with it as we complete the objective. eveyr time i kill a pratorian i sing another one bites the dust, if i get saved fomr a OHK i sing stayin alive. On extraction wave i blast final countown and sing along to that as well.

any other way of doing is is doing it wrong L2P people L2P

[Black Phantom]

Sol Angelica wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

It wouldn't be the first time someone's comment went right over your head.

What? What's the point of answering as rude as this?

Ironic, given how incredibly rude and ignorant your thread comes off as.

But to answer your question, I'm only being honest. You're quite adept at missing the point.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

    I think there's been a few misunderstandings in this thread. It's actually a legitimate question.

   Also, original Poster is Norwegian, something it's pretty clear several posters didn't actually catch onto.

    The question is really where the practical bumps up against that which is culturally sensitive. Most of the posters here seem to agree that if there is a common language, it makes sense to speak that language. Some people are shy speaking in a second language, and that's ok.

   I've always been aware of how lucky I am that Engish is my first language. It allows me to communicate with more people on the planet than any other language. That's the best thing about it, which is a question of practicality, not value (i.e. it doesn't make "English better").

   But any way you look at it, you'll sometimes be the one who doesn't understand the language. Even age can account for that. I don't use my microphone most of the time because Xbox Live is mostly composed of kids. That's also just a question of practicality - I'm the one in the minority, but I don't mind if a bunch of kids want to talk about the Kardashians.

   Okay, I'm lying, I would never listen to a bunch of kids talk about the Kardashians! 

Modifié par Jeremiah12LGeek, 28 décembre 2012 - 11:50 .

[LuckyBullet95]

What's worse?
1. People speaking their native tongue over the internet because they may not be able to, any need to or the inclination to learn one of the hardest languages to learn in the world?

OR

2. Believing that the most spoken language in the world is English? It would be much easier to teach 6 billion people Mandarin than to teach 6.5 billion English.