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[Ajgrebel]

What moment in ME3 was so WTF, or plot hole-ridden that it broke your immersion from the game? For myself it was during the prologue. A little kid is running around unattended toward a shuttle and Alliance soldiers just stand there and wait for him to climb into the shuttle. Logic and experience tells me that someone grabs the kid and puts him in the shuttle. The fact that the kid was completely ignored by everyone drove me crazy. Human nature tends towards the attitude of protecting children. So why was he practically ignored? IT theorists even used it as evidenced or the kid not really existing. Anyone else find that odd?

[Hurbster]

Yup, that was strange. Immersion was first broken for me when we got Chobot.

[Jadebaby]

I entirely facepalmed at "the only thing we can, we fight or we die."

The line was so bad that it actually broke my immersion because my Shepard would never make such a stupid blanket statement at such a crucial point in time. And infront of all those people too! How embarressing...

I mean seriously, look here, the bald councilor even shakes his head at the line after she says it.

[DeinonSlayer]

AutoShep apologizing to Tevos instead of the other way around, then acting like a douche to the rest of the crew. Conversing with Joker and Anderson, you can only choose your flavor of butthurt. I've learned not to talk to them, or James, or EDI after Thessia if I have any desire to maintain character.

The battle for Earth, and all losses incurred therein, would never have happened if the Asari government hadn't sat on that beacon for so long for their own selfish purposes.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 31 décembre 2012 - 01:56 .

[Mr.House]

Everything that dealt with that dam kid.

[Shepard108278]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I entirely facepalmed at "the only thing we can, we fight or we die."

The line was so bad that it actually broke my immersion because my Shepard would never make such a stupid blanket statement at such a crucial point in time. And infront of all those people too! How embarressing...

I mean seriously, look here, the bald councilor even shakes his head at the line after she says it.

Whats wrong with it it makes sense.
As to topic nothing did imo.

[BonFire5]

The Mars mission where Eva just Mario runs away and the shields that auto went back up. Or everyone calling out Vega for crashing the Kodiak into hers. As stupid as it was, I was laughing at it. Didn't think he was suicidal until my Shepard was in a horribly animated fisticuffs match with him later.

[Captain Cornhole]

For me it was back in ME2 when they brought Shepard back from the dead. With ME1 all the lore was for the most part well written, and entirely plausible for the most part.

However bringing someone back from the dead is entirely silly. Sure we can stimulate nerves through electricity, but the gap between that and reviving someone who has been exposed to the void of space and suffered through planetary reentry is quite uncanny. There is a huge list of issues one would have to get past to even begin considering such a feat.

[ME859]

In going back and playing it a bit more I've come to the conclusion that the formula was as follows.

Have Shep move conversations along automatically with what use to be Investigate questions and neutral responses, and then have the player choose between a paragon and renegade response. Personally I don't think it was done well though I do appreciate that they were able to get better camera work for most scenes. However all things considered I'll have the ME1 and 2 format back.

Modifié par ME859, 31 décembre 2012 - 02:11 .

[bleetman]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I entirely facepalmed at "the only thing we can, we fight or we die."

[xsdob]

Well, I'm a weirdo on these forums and one with not so typical reactions. So while many here probably had events that did that, I never really did for myself. Of course that may be because I view the game differently than most and in the way I approach and play it, along with my expectations of control. So that may very well be why I was fortunate enough to not get snapped out of going along with the story.

[spirosz]

Auto dialogue like no other. I didn't mind it in certain instances, when you know - Shepard just needs to say "hello", but overall, ME3's auto-dialogue is the reason I don't want to replay the game and lack of Jack

[samgurl775]

The fact that my badass, hardcore, renegade Shepard, whom never completed Arrival and adamantly supported Cerberus, meekly turned himself into the Alliance and spent 6 months presumably doing nothing other than twiddling his thumbs.

[Isaidlunch]

"I love you but I know you. Don't make me an anchor, promise me Steve!"

As if the line itself wasn't bad enough, the fact that he plays it out loud just as Shepard happens to walking past is ridiculous. Surely he heard Shepard coming or at least the elevator? Does he not know what headphones are?

[crimzontearz]

many....but the very first one was the forced emotions on my Shepard at the beginning of the game when the boy gets blasted

[Galbrant]

ME1 face import not working.

What happen to my dialog wheel!?

The kid in the prolong

We fight or we die line.

TIM and his Galactic Army.

Mars all of it hey we conveniently found a Reaper off switch Oh sorry Kaiden I didn't mean to stand here and watch you get your worthless head bashed in.

Don't know if they fixed it but during a conversation with Liara early on the Ship Shepard head and hers were about 180 degrees not looking at each other during the entire conversation.

Why am I dreaming about a kid that I don't give a damn about? I had no idea that Walters Shepard is such a crybaby. I want my Shepard back.

Citadel coup- Udina's illogical betrayal even for a deucebag politician. Oh sorry about that Thane you were fighting by your self sorry about that. Oh joy a Space Ninja that isn't fit to lick Raiden's boot.

Legions complete 180 on his view of using Reaper tech. Other than that Rannoch was amazing.

Thessia- Uh when can I have back control of my character Walters? Oh damn how much plot armor does this childish ninja has?

Cerberus Base-
Kai Leng - SHUT UP!!!

Priority Earth- most boring end game trek ever no Suicide mission style game play or even able to use your war assets... in fact you don't get to see most of them...

Citadel- All I'm going to say the Crucible should have just fired and give us the win no matter how Macguffin it was, because once Shepard got on that lift Mass Effect wasn't Mass Effect anymore.

[InstaShark]

The lack of a lighthearted response to Joker after Thessia. Shepard and Joker have been through a lot, and Shepard knows well enough why Joker makes humor at otherwise inappropriate times.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Mr.House wrote...

Everything that dealt with that dam kid.

This

[archangel1996]

Every autodialogue i guess, my renegade Shep is not a schizophrenic wh goes all rabbit and flours with people like Udina or the Council(BTW anyone else wanted to say **** YOU when they refused to give help to Earth? Instead i just got sad puppy eyes)
And the "we fight or we die that's the plan"......Shep there are prothean beacons out there, you fought Reapers, the Leviathan of Dis? i rember reading something about it in ME1, we can sudy that...and you go with "we fight or we die"?.........
And the 6 months fact that is absolutely stupid

Modifié par archangel1996, 31 décembre 2012 - 03:08 .

[Islandrockzor]

Nothing really blew my immersion storywise, sure it was weird at times, but not so much that I couldn't handle it.

Power-centric sentinel was bad though, never again, every time Shep took out his gun to shoot the baddies I wanted him to shoot himself and be done with it.

Bad face import ruined things too. I couldn't play until it was patched, cause that guy just wasn't the same protagonist any longer.


Edit: Fight or we die..." was silly, but it's the kind of silly I've come to expect in games and movies, cause really, the majority of game developers aren't war veterans or officers.
The "There was a kid"-dialogue option, that claimed to be nothing such up front, with Garrus made me facepalm a little as well...

Modifié par Islandrockzor, 31 décembre 2012 - 03:21 .

[Lyrandori]

Breaking immersion in ME3?

Well the problem, for me anyway, is that ME3 itself breaks immersion of the entire trilogy, it's not just limited to something "within" ME3, it's just ME3 as a whole. Sure, I liked Tuchanka and Rannoch was good (not as good as Tuchanka though), and I liked it when Garrus and AutoShepard went up there to shoot bottles... but... well the rest of the game, sorry just doesn't cut it. I actually like the multi-player mode, however, in fact I prefer ME3's MP over ME3's "SP" any time of the day. I did (and still) have some complaints about ME2 as well, but even ME2 is probably a good light-years ahead of ME3 in almost every aspects of game-play.

The ONLY single aspect of game-play I actually, genuinely prefer in ME3 over all others is the combat system... BUT... that's only because it "fits" ME3 as a shooter. In ME1 the "combat system" was lacking exactly BECAUSE it was NOT supposed to be a shooter to start with. Anyway, if I really have to limit myself at choosing one part within ME3 that for some reason "broke immersion" more than the whole game did then it would be the very moment Shepard goes up the Magic Elevator to meet Startroll, which in and of itself will for coming decades be remembered as one of - if not the absolute - most infamous scene in video gaming history.

[Maniccc]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I entirely facepalmed at "the only thing we can, we fight or we die."

The line was so bad that it actually broke my immersion because my Shepard would never make such a stupid blanket statement at such a crucial point in time. And infront of all those people too! How embarressing...

I mean seriously, look here, the bald councilor even shakes his head at the line after she says it.

This.  Right from the beginning of the game, I started to get a really bad feeling.

[Islandrockzor]

Mass Effect 3 SP could have done with the camera sticking closer to Shep's back during action sequences btw. Might have helped getting the player closer to Shepard subconsciously, making transitions to dialogue more natural.

[chevyguy87]

Five major things I shall list them.

1.) The failure to bridge the trilogy together. ME3 feels like a standalone game and not the third installment. I especially dislike the fact they chose to do the game this way because that is not how trilogies work. New players just picking up ME3 will be "all caught up" according to Jennifer Hale in one of her interviews prior to the games release. To me that was the sign that all was not going to be well before ME3 came out. And sure enough I played the game with and without an imported save to find out that there are miniscule differences between them, ME1 to ME2 suffered from this but it is just insulting in ME3.

2.) Post ending DLC, and I am referring directly to the Leviathan DLC. That was just a pure money grab by EA. Giving us Reaper backstory AFTER the game's conclusion AFTER most of us had been wondering and asking BW about it the whole trilogy makes no goddamned sense. Again I say money grab, same thing with Omega.

3.) The complete lack of character development. I like what they did with Jack, why did they not do this for the rest of the cast? After thinking about that for a month or so, I believe the deadline and the rush to meet that deadline is the culprit here. I strongly feel if Bioware had another year of development time, the whole cast would have received equal and fair treatment.

4.) Rushed pace. The story to me felt as if we were going at FTL speed. Before I knew it I was halfway through the story and did not even realize it. Frantic pacing like that in a game like Mass Effect where the majority of our time spent will be talking to people gathering information and backstory and taking our time exploring does not mix well. And the rush clearly shows throughout the game.

5.) The fact that Mass Effect was just a trilogy. Bioware was clearly under the gun and were forced to jam as much story lore into two discs. And the story suffers heavily from this. I always felt that ME should have been at minimum four installments maybe five tops. The universe the games takes place in is just so vast and detailed, but to cut it down to fit into three games doomed Bioware from the start (in my humble opinion). ME3 should have had us getting rid of Cerberus and have an awesome final Boss fight with T.I.M and gathering up our galactic assets and allies in preperation for the Reaper threat, and ME4 should have been the Reaper war in it's entirety and conclusion. Instead of juggling all three in such a short time span. 

The ending did not bother me much since the five reasons I listed above killed my entusiasm for the series and let me down long before I got to the end. Shame though I loved Mass Effect up until the third, but the show must go on and only time will tell what will become the mystery that is Mass Effect 4.