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#126
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Immersion broke when I realized shepard was going on trial on earth and not on acturis station.

Massive disconnect

#127
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For me the most immersive breaking point was on Rannoch.. i was preparing to fight the reaper when suddenly tali says ' i love u" and shepard replies with something that i dont remmeber now ( i think it was the seme thing, but whatever).


That dialogue was so poorley done, and SO out of place that it completly destroyed my imersion at that mission. But i liked the rannoch arch very much. And the ending of the arc is very well written.


Citadel and thessia, both because of Kei Lang.. I was like " WTF is that sissy ninja like geisha is doing? Why cant i shoot the F***** ship? I would've destroyed that before the geisha vilain!" Or on that TERRIBLE scene when thane dies i was like " WTF just FOCUS FIRE THAT MOFO! WTF shepard?"



Priprity Earth and the citadel base were soo terrible that i almost had no bound to the game on those missions. in fact iw as already kinda disapointed with the game BEFORE i saw the terrible ending.

URGH

#128
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Shepard108278 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

lol nope..

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You actually were bored enough to blow up the sprites on ground level of Earth in the prologue? What is the big deal you expect them to fully render that?

Don't try to make sense of it... there is none.

#129
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Any part of the main storyline to ME3 really.

#130
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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Shepard108278 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

lol nope..

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You actually were bored enough to blow up the sprites on ground level of Earth in the prologue? What is the big deal you expect them to fully render that?

Don't try to make sense of it... there is none.

If your talking about making sense of someone enlarging that I agree.

#131
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So much immersion breaking, so little time...

About vent kid: maybe no one besides Shepard is reacting to him because he was a last minute addition, put in after they created a model of a child for the catalyst? To 'foreshadow' things and so forth. And the dreams etc. all flow from that foul spring.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 01 janvier 2013 - 08:29 .


#132
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OniTYME wrote...

Also the omnipresent Avenger and predator.


Also this.

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It happens so often I don't know where to begin. I suppose the first serious offence was Shepard watching the kid die. The second one was Liara walking into Shepard's quarters ad acting like we were close.

The major thing for me was ME3's Citadel and all those stupid fetch quests that I felt compelled to do since I refused ( and still do ) to play multi player and I had to do every side quest I could to raise my EMS as high as it could go, I can't speak for anyone else but I hated everything about ME3's Citadel. In ME1 and ME2 the Citadel felt like a real life space station where people lived, the people I interacted with made the Citadel in these games feel real. By the time I had gotten to ME3 all I could see was a gameplay mechanic at work, I did not see any people, I just saw numbers, EMS figures. To me the whole entire game mechanic was immersion breaking, heck it was almost game breaking.

#134
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^ EMS numbers were also immersion breaking. Seeing a Volus Dreadnought armed with nothing but Thanix cannons was about equal to the combined might of Jacob and Kasumi.

Or the difference between keeping or destroying the Collector base could be filled in with Diana Allers.

The numbers made no sense at all.

#135
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The auto-dialogue. I hated this so much. Im currently playing through ME1 for the first time in a while, and it really sucks to realize how much less control we have over Shepard in the third game.

#136
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Shepard apparently wearing N7 armor under whatever other armor he's wearing if actually wearing different armor.

*Runs to beam in Collector gear, gets fried, stumbles around in N7 gear*

That or Harbinger's lasers have the power to alter clothing and armor. And leaves the hair intact to top it all off too, because Harbinger is considerate like that. Doesn't wanna cramp Shepard's style too much.

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Mr.House wrote...

Everything that dealt with that dam kid.


I have to agree with this.  Of course Commander freakin Shepard, savior of the galaxy, can't help him.

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JBPBRC wrote...

Shepard apparently wearing N7 armor under whatever other armor he's wearing if actually wearing different armor.

*Runs to beam in Collector gear, gets fried, stumbles around in N7 gear*

That or Harbinger's lasers have the power to alter clothing and armor. And leaves the hair intact to top it all off too, because Harbinger is considerate like that. Doesn't wanna cramp Shepard's style too much.

Considering I hate that custom armor never saw that but I can see how that'd be an issue. Minor but still.

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One thing that only recently started to annoy me is how - during the Cerberus coup - Bailey can't get a signal through to the Council but can somehow override multiple elevators on the fly and basically do everything else (he even recovers rather nicely from his wound). I get it's a plot contrivance to make sure Shepard's arrival is a shock to the VS and make the confrontation more dramatic but it sort of sticks out like a sore thumb to me now.

I also don't understand how Shepard almost beat Kai Leng to the elevators but I guess they had to toss us a bone after the cutscene stupidity with Thane.

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Belisarius25 wrote...

One thing that only recently started to annoy me is how - during the Cerberus coup - Bailey can't get a signal through to the Council but can somehow override multiple elevators on the fly and basically do everything else (he even recovers rather nicely from his wound). I get it's a plot contrivance to make sure Shepard's arrival is a shock to the VS and make the confrontation more dramatic but it sort of sticks out like a sore thumb to me now.

I also don't understand how Shepard almost beat Kai Leng to the elevators but I guess they had to toss us a bone after the cutscene stupidity with Thane.

What cutscene stupidity? I love that scene.

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First was "we die or we die". Earth intro was garbage.
Then crucible introduction.
But immersion was completely shatter after thessia crucible "explanation". Ugh.

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tbh on the minor missions like Tuchunka and Rannoch I'd get the immersion back, its when I'd finish those and get back on the ship and start discussing the main plot of the crucible and war assets that it would break again not to mention that got awful scanning for war assets mini game.

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Xellith wrote...

"We fight or we die". But "this isnt about strategy or tactics. This is about survival."

DOES NOT COMPUTE

Equals "we die or we die". :wizard:

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Maxster_ wrote...

First was "we die or we die". Earth intro was garbage.
Then crucible introduction.
But immersion was completely shatter after thessia crucible "explanation". Ugh.

I disagree. I loved the Earth intro and had no problem with the Crucible or Thessia.

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Shepard108278 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

First was "we die or we die". Earth intro was garbage.
Then crucible introduction.
But immersion was completely shatter after thessia crucible "explanation". Ugh.

I disagree. I loved the Earth intro and had no problem with the Crucible or Thessia.

And?
Garbage writing is garbage writing, irrelevant of someone liking it or not.
Have you even read OP? :wizard:

#146
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Railroading of attitudes towards and dialogue options with squaddies/past squaddies.

EXCEPT JACK.

Which is why I always love the person/people who write Jack because they always include a dialogue branch for not liking her/being harsh to her. I mean I'd never take it but...

Which was my biggest issue with Miranda in ME2 - I would have liked her character more if the dialogue options weren't paragon/renegade attitudes to Cerberus, but paragon/renegade attitudes to HER. Rairoading my Shep into not being able to be renegade to her/ go into Cerbies/HER actions deeply with her just ruined the immersion of crafting your choice of relationship with squaddies.

Also - 'THIS IS FOR THANE AND MIRANDA'

No. That was for the dead Drell my Shep was supposedley in love with BW. Bit more important to her.

Having said that, the various ways your attitude to Wrex and your choices when it came to him was really expansive and well done.

#147
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Auto-dialogue. I can think of at least two moments during my play through that I checked the options to make sure I wasn't on action mode.

#148
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-The default Avenger and Predator.
-The lack of control over Shepard (realised it after replaying ME2)
-Everything after you enter Thessia.

#149
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The Intro - I bust my ass taking down the Collectors and saving human colonies; you didn't replace a single frigate from the Battle of the Citadel; I stole a state of the art Cerberus Frigate that is an upgraded version of the Normandy; I was operating as a Spectre with the approval of the Council; Hackett sent a division of marines into Batarian space to rescue a scientist and they blew up a mass relay, and you threw me in lock up? Why didn't you throw Joker in lock up? Dr. Chakwas was on that ship, too... oh but you say she was on personal leave? Shepard should have gotten a goddamned medal and promotion to Captain, and don't give me any excuses.

The Admirals: Really? That dumb?
The dreams: Really?
No booze on the Normandy? No still? What the hell kind of crew is this?
The default Avenger and Predator
Masks in space and on Mars
The kid. How the hell did he get in that duct?
Quarians in the Consensus with suits
Everything after the Thanix blast... everything.

#150
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Shepard108278 wrote...

What cutscene stupidity? I love that scene.


So you were okay with how Thane went full retard and rushed an opponent with a ninjato? Or how Thane actually bothered getting in close to Leng to begin with? Or how shepard and friends just sort of sit there as Thane gets his ass handed to him?