dragonflight288 wrote...
But templars don't even need the veil to abuse their authority over mages either. While you may fear mages more than demons, the average mage fears templars more than demons as well.
Fair enough. Both sides can safely claim its number of bad apples. Alrik, Karras, Danarius, Tarohne.
But it still remains a valid argument. Through both psychology and psychiatry, we know that children growing up need a loving environment surely as much as they need shelter. Not necessary to survival, but improves health. Children growing up in loving environments, with people who are for them, are generally more emotionally healthy and able to handle their problems than those who did not. Magic sensitivity is almost always discovered when children are in the early development phase, and denying them their family, being told their a curse in their divine god's eye, is traumatizing to any 4 to 5 year old. And any mage with a low self-esteem is even more dangerous and likely to abuse their power than ones who do have a strong self-esteem. And this is shown in real life as well. People with low self-esteems are more likely to lord over others and abuse what power they do have, because they enjoy feeling that power, as they normally feel powerless. (In general.)
It is a valid argument but also one I place litle faith in. Psychology is hardly an exact science and we have seen plenty of people raised in loving environments who become criminals. People whose self-esteem is so high that they think they can do whatever they want with others.
Still, it's not simply something one can disregard. It's probrably true that if we dropoed religious dogmas such as these:
Things would improve. Or they would get worse. After all, fear of a divine punishment probrably helps keep quite a number of mage honest and respecting their powers.
That is the problem wuth phsycologic arguments. You can always claim the other side and it will always be equally valid.
Ultimately, I think it simply narrows down to who has more faith in humanity. Between the two of us, that is you.
And neither are mages who have enough skills outside of magic to go into a career during a medieval era.
In the comics, we see a mage creating blades sharper than even those of dwarven make. And that was a teenage girl who only knew one spell.
That would actually be fun to watch...until the horses and the chariot crash into the ground again. Good idea though.
I expect if we placed a glyph on all sides of the car and activated them and deactivated them depending on what direction we wanted to go, it'd be a quite viable method of transportation.
And that is really my fear. Orlesians already use glowing stones to illuminate the streets of Val-Royeaux so, basically, there is no incentive to invent elecricity. If mages suddenly become as vital as oil, mundanes are pretty much screwed.
That very same thing happened within the Chantry system, only in reverse. The entire Circle system was designed as a compromise to keep the Divine from killing all the mages who were peacefully protesting in her cathedral. Before it, mages were only allowed to use their magic to light candles and be glorified janitors for the Chantry.
Over time, the Circle became more and more oppressive and the templars gained more and more power over the mages, with less and less oversight. Over 1000 years we have come to where we are now, where mages are beaten in some circles for talking to civilians, a templar can rape and illegally tranquilize mages without consequence, apprentice mages who run away, rather than being brought back alive are simply run through (Aneirin) and even when things are desperate like a war, depending on the circle, only a limited number of mages, who can heal troops, or use their power to their full potential, are actually allowed to fight. (Only seven mages went to Ostagar, and Gregoire actually thought that was too many.) Mages are not allowed to have children, any children they do have are considered property of the chantry, and need special permission to marry. Mages have no rights whatsoever.
You see my fears then tough I do think you are exageratting. Mages do have rights and freedoms. In the White Spire, they were allowed to visit the city and buy personal propriety and even when the stricter Lambert took control, not a single mage was made Tranquil and gave him plenty of reason.Meredith called a Right of Annullment for less. In Ferelden, Knight Commander Gregoir respected the First Enchanter's authority and, under him, Anders was brought back seven times. He feared mages becoming fond of casting destructive spells; which I think is reasonable; but he always assumed innocence until proven guilty.
It seems like most of the abuse we see in all media come from Kirkwall's Circle and even there, only from templars such as Alrik and Karras. According to Bethany and Ella's letters, most templars don't want any violence or deaths. They just want things to go back to normal.
I miss DAO where the mages were more likely to gossip over Cullen being in love with Amell than fearing to be made Tranquil and where Lothering's Templars were the only ones who stayed behind to protect the population.
DA2 seemed to not know how to give depth to the issue other than making both sides hugh a**holes despite most named templars we meet in Kirkwall being of a good sort.
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