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[Ticonderoga117]

txgoldrush wrote...
Thats because of TIM, not anything before. And he cracked Vendetta to get it.

No... the Reapers had indoctrinated agents in the Prothean cycle who learned of it and stymied thier work.

Then theres "some earlier cycle" in which the Reapers found the plans and thought they did away with it.

Which makes me wonder if the Prothean and our cycle's plans got found out.... how does the Catalyst not know that we had it?

Oh jeez... here we go again. More BS!

[txgoldrush]

Maxster_ wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

Hey txgoldrush, you're kicking butt in here. Seriously, it's nice when someone besides me points out the hypocrisy and double standards people around here have about the first 2 games. You're also destroying everyone in this argument. Nice job so far.

Except why important information would be encrypted. Or if these plans were discovered earlier, why not one made a fuss. Nor why Eva waited until her cover was blown to grab the plans.

Oh yeah.... kicking butt indeed.

Could it be.....to also deny the Alliance those plans and wait to do it when the Alliance is in chaos due to the Reaper attack? Sounds kinda smart.

Sure.
Now protheans knew that in 50000 years after their destruction there will be human Systems Alliance. 
Riight

Wow, you're ignorance is astounding....you sit here, make claims without proof and then misread the argument.

The argument with him was why did Eva not make off with the data before the Reaper attack.

Okay, now suddenly plans were encrypted because Cerberus encrypted them before Cerberus was even created. 

Wow you're an idiot...you have no clue where the argument is.

Pathetic.
"Because its encrypted and the key is on Kahje which forbids explorers due to the reverance of their sites to the Hanar." © txgoldrush
So, you said that protheans encrypted plans

"Could it be.....to also deny the Alliance those plans and wait to do it when the Alliance is in chaos due to the Reaper attack? Sounds kinda smart." © txgoldrush

And then you said that they were encrypted by someone, presumably Cerberus(before it was even created).

Neither makes any sense, which is perfectly normal for someone like you 

Wow, you are unable to comprehend many arguements going at once.

[Maxster_]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Well they had to find someway to beat them and his happens in many games movies and books where there is extremely convieant timing. This felt really forced though. But I knew they would have to do something like this

They done it in a worst way possible, and then made it even worse.
That's an achievement, of sorts.
And all that because they suddenly decided that reapers sat in dark space for a thousands of years of Sovereign machinations, when they could just fly into a galaxy in 0.5-3 years losing nothing.
For absolutely no reason.

[Maxster_]

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, you are unable to comprehend many arguements going at once.

For someone who constantly contradicts himself and makes asspulls to "prove" his "point" - that's rather bold statement. 

[Dr_Extrem]

this thread is entertaining

[Ticonderoga117]

Maxster_ wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Well they had to find someway to beat them and his happens in many games movies and books where there is extremely convieant timing. This felt really forced though. But I knew they would have to do something like this

They done it in a worst way possible, and then made it even worse.
That's an achievement, of sorts.
And all that because they suddenly decided that reapers sat in dark space for a thousands of years of Sovereign machinations, when they could just fly into a galaxy in 0.5-3 years losing nothing.
For absolutely no reason.

To be fair, Sovereign was only doing that for about 300 years. Still doesn't help much.

[Maxster_]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Well they had to find someway to beat them and his happens in many games movies and books where there is extremely convieant timing. This felt really forced though. But I knew they would have to do something like this

They done it in a worst way possible, and then made it even worse.
That's an achievement, of sorts.
And all that because they suddenly decided that reapers sat in dark space for a thousands of years of Sovereign machinations, when they could just fly into a galaxy in 0.5-3 years losing nothing.
For absolutely no reason.

To be fair, Sovereign was only doing that for about 300 years. Still doesn't help much.

To be fair, rachni says directly that their mothers were influenced by the reapers in ME2. 

We hide. We burrow. We build. But we know you seek those who soured the souls of our mothers. When the time comes, our voice will join with yours, and our crescendo will burn the darkness clean

And bold imply about that in ME1. 

Modifié par Maxster_, 02 janvier 2013 - 01:01 .

[Maxster_]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

this thread is entertaining

[txgoldrush]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
Thats because of TIM, not anything before. And he cracked Vendetta to get it.

No... the Reapers had indoctrinated agents in the Prothean cycle who learned of it and stymied thier work.

Then theres "some earlier cycle" in which the Reapers found the plans and thought they did away with it.

Which makes me wonder if the Prothean and our cycle's plans got found out.... how does the Catalyst not know that we had it?

Oh jeez... here we go again. More BS!

Indoctrinated agents don't mean they will automatically give it up to the Reapers. You don't have enough evidence to prove a contradiction here.

And then you also cannot assume the Protheans knew that the Reapers know their plans, even if the Reapers did know their plans.

Its true that the Reapers did know of the Crucible, but they didn't know that organics are still relying on it.

[Ticonderoga117]

Maxster_ wrote...
To be fair, rachni says directly that their mothers were influenced by the reapers in ME2. 

We hide. We burrow. We build. But we know you seek those who soured the souls of our mothers. When the time comes, our voice will join with yours, and our crescendo will burn the darkness clean

And bold imply about that in ME1. 

Didn't think the rachni wars were that long ago. Need to check.

Huh... I was wrong. Whoops. Sorry.

[txgoldrush]

Maxster_ wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, you are unable to comprehend many arguements going at once.

For someone who constantly contradicts himself and makes asspulls to "prove" his "point" - that's rather bold statement. 

and yet you ignore clear lore that disproves your BS claims.

Fans like you are the embodiment of why I view many ME3 detractors as moronic.

[OdanUrr]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

this thread is entertaining

[Ticonderoga117]

txgoldrush wrote...
Indoctrinated agents don't mean they will automatically give it up to the Reapers. You don't have enough evidence to prove a contradiction here.

And then you also cannot assume the Protheans knew that the Reapers know their plans, even if the Reapers did know their plans.

Its true that the Reapers did know of the Crucible, but they didn't know that organics are still relying on it.

So these agents who gathered this data wouldn't tell thier masters what they learned? Especially if these plans were generally touted as a way to destroy them?

And I doubt this would be the only two times it happened. It seems there's patterns to things. The Crucible beign one of them.

[Maxster_]

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, you are unable to comprehend many arguements going at once.

For someone who constantly contradicts himself and makes asspulls to "prove" his "point" - that's rather bold statement. 

and yet you ignore clear lore that disproves your BS claims.

Fans like you are the embodiment of why I view many ME3 detractors as moronic.

Prove that i'm ignoring the lore.
With my posts.

You know, saying that you proved something is not equals actual proof. 

[Cheviot]

txgoldrush wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
Thats because of TIM, not anything before. And he cracked Vendetta to get it.

No... the Reapers had indoctrinated agents in the Prothean cycle who learned of it and stymied thier work.

Then theres "some earlier cycle" in which the Reapers found the plans and thought they did away with it.

Which makes me wonder if the Prothean and our cycle's plans got found out.... how does the Catalyst not know that we had it?

Oh jeez... here we go again. More BS!

Indoctrinated agents don't mean they will automatically give it up to the Reapers. You don't have enough evidence to prove a contradiction here.

And then you also cannot assume the Protheans knew that the Reapers know their plans, even if the Reapers did know their plans.

Its true that the Reapers did know of the Crucible, but they didn't know that organics are still relying on it.

Also, as Ilos proved, the Protheans were very capable of setting up installations that the Reapers couldn't find, so they could think that plans were finally destroyed even though they weren't.

[txgoldrush]

Maxster_ wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, you are unable to comprehend many arguements going at once.

For someone who constantly contradicts himself and makes asspulls to "prove" his "point" - that's rather bold statement. 

and yet you ignore clear lore that disproves your BS claims.

Fans like you are the embodiment of why I view many ME3 detractors as moronic.

Prove that i'm ignoring the lore.
With my posts.

You know, saying that you proved something is not equals actual proof. 

and yet I did prove my claims, with actual quotes and lore....which suggests that the OP is incorrect.

You just ignore clear facts to prove your bias.

[Maxster_]

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, you are unable to comprehend many arguements going at once.

For someone who constantly contradicts himself and makes asspulls to "prove" his "point" - that's rather bold statement. 

and yet you ignore clear lore that disproves your BS claims.

Fans like you are the embodiment of why I view many ME3 detractors as moronic.

Prove that i'm ignoring the lore.
With my posts.

You know, saying that you proved something is not equals actual proof. 

gibberish skipped

So, you can't prove that i'm ignoring the lore. I thought so 

[txgoldrush]

Cheviot wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
Thats because of TIM, not anything before. And he cracked Vendetta to get it.

No... the Reapers had indoctrinated agents in the Prothean cycle who learned of it and stymied thier work.

Then theres "some earlier cycle" in which the Reapers found the plans and thought they did away with it.

Which makes me wonder if the Prothean and our cycle's plans got found out.... how does the Catalyst not know that we had it?

Oh jeez... here we go again. More BS!

Indoctrinated agents don't mean they will automatically give it up to the Reapers. You don't have enough evidence to prove a contradiction here.

And then you also cannot assume the Protheans knew that the Reapers know their plans, even if the Reapers did know their plans.

Its true that the Reapers did know of the Crucible, but they didn't know that organics are still relying on it.

Also, as Ilos proved, the Protheans were very capable of setting up installations that the Reapers couldn't find, so they could think that plans were finally destroyed even though they weren't.

Yep

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

[txgoldrush]

Maxster_ wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, you are unable to comprehend many arguements going at once.

For someone who constantly contradicts himself and makes asspulls to "prove" his "point" - that's rather bold statement. 

and yet you ignore clear lore that disproves your BS claims.

Fans like you are the embodiment of why I view many ME3 detractors as moronic.

Prove that i'm ignoring the lore.
With my posts.

You know, saying that you proved something is not equals actual proof. 

gibberish skipped

So, you can't prove that i'm ignoring the lore. I thought so 

You have many times in this thread.

You also intended to ignore the non game lore as well.

Modifié par txgoldrush, 02 janvier 2013 - 01:17 .

[Maxster_]

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and even need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

Modifié par Maxster_, 02 janvier 2013 - 01:18 .

[Dr_Extrem]

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

well and its arms magically fit to the presidium ring ..

all other cycles simply forgot to mention this .... unimportant detail ... when they made the plans.


but it seams, that basic engineering does work this way in the meu.

Modifié par Dr_Extrem, 02 janvier 2013 - 01:19 .

[Cheviot]

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

Are you talking about the Crucible or the Conduit from ME1?

[txgoldrush]

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

Good grief....

Its only an unknown device to the CURRENT cycle....the proof that the Protheans think to use the Citadel with it proves that they knew what it did.

[Maxster_]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

well and its arm magically fit t the citadel ..

all other cycles simply forgot to mention this .... unimportant detail ... when they made the plans.


but it seams, that basic engineering does work this way in the meu.

No, not only previous cycles are utterly retarded, but council races in Shepard's cycle also.
There is so much giant space objects in current cycle, so no one could ever guessed for which one those giant retractable docking arms are needed. 

[txgoldrush]

Cheviot wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

Are you talking about the Crucible or the Conduit from ME1?

The enitre Vigil/Conduit story sets up the theme of the past cycle helping the current one.