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[Maxster_]

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

Good grief....

Its only an unknown device to the CURRENT cycle....the proof that the Protheans think to use the Citadel with it proves that they knew what it did.

It only "proves" that some race who designed it had access to the Citadel, and knew about reapers existence and Catalyst in advance.

Garbage writing as it is. 

[Dr_Extrem]

Maxster_ wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

well and its arm magically fit t the citadel ..

all other cycles simply forgot to mention this .... unimportant detail ... when they made the plans.


but it seams, that basic engineering does work this way in the meu.

No, not only previous cycles are utterly retarded, but council races in Shepard's cycle also.
There is so much giant space objects in current cycle, so no one could ever guessed for which one those giant retractable docking arms are needed. 

naahh .. they just lost all their measuring tapes at home ..

not to mention .. space objects, that were around in every cycle ...

Modifié par Dr_Extrem, 02 janvier 2013 - 01:23 .

[Maxster_]

Cheviot wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

Are you talking about the Crucible or the Conduit from ME1?

Guess you never played ME1. You know, mass relays, massless corridors and all that. 

[txgoldrush]

Maxster_ wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

well and its arm magically fit t the citadel ..

all other cycles simply forgot to mention this .... unimportant detail ... when they made the plans.


but it seams, that basic engineering does work this way in the meu.

No, not only previous cycles are utterly retarded, but council races in Shepard's cycle also.
There is so much giant space objects in current cycle, so no one could ever guessed for which one those giant retractable docking arms are needed. 

or yet did you miss the fact that the Protheans knew the Citadel was the hub of the Mass Relay system? That the Reapers built it?

[Dr_Extrem]

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

well and its arm magically fit t the citadel ..

all other cycles simply forgot to mention this .... unimportant detail ... when they made the plans.


but it seams, that basic engineering does work this way in the meu.

No, not only previous cycles are utterly retarded, but council races in Shepard's cycle also.
There is so much giant space objects in current cycle, so no one could ever guessed for which one those giant retractable docking arms are needed. 

or yet did you miss the fact that the Protheans knew the Citadel was the hub of the Mass Relay system? That the Reapers built it?

yes .. but those geniuses forgot to write that into the plans. the asari could have gone extinct ... or tat war with the humans ..

[Maxster_]

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

well and its arm magically fit t the citadel ..

all other cycles simply forgot to mention this .... unimportant detail ... when they made the plans.


but it seams, that basic engineering does work this way in the meu.

No, not only previous cycles are utterly retarded, but council races in Shepard's cycle also.
There is so much giant space objects in current cycle, so no one could ever guessed for which one those giant retractable docking arms are needed. 

or yet did you miss the fact that the Protheans knew the Citadel was the hub of the Mass Relay system? That the Reapers built it?

Have you even read my post? Guess not 

Modifié par Maxster_, 02 janvier 2013 - 01:27 .

[Cheviot]

Maxster_ wrote...

Cheviot wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

Are you talking about the Crucible or the Conduit from ME1?

Guess you never played ME1. You know, mass relays, massless corridors and all that. 

You guessed wrong.  I played ME1, a game where everyone talks about a device with an unknown function - the Crucible - that doesn't get explained until the end of the game.  Also, it's slightly more than a relay, since it can send craft though solid objects like the walls of the Citadel.

[txgoldrush]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

well and its arm magically fit t the citadel ..

all other cycles simply forgot to mention this .... unimportant detail ... when they made the plans.


but it seams, that basic engineering does work this way in the meu.

No, not only previous cycles are utterly retarded, but council races in Shepard's cycle also.
There is so much giant space objects in current cycle, so no one could ever guessed for which one those giant retractable docking arms are needed. 

or yet did you miss the fact that the Protheans knew the Citadel was the hub of the Mass Relay system? That the Reapers built it?

yes .. but those geniuses forgot to write that into the plans. the asari could have gone extinct ... or tat war with the humans ..

or maybe the geniuses wanted to make sure the current cycle can defeat the Reapers before giving them the last component.

Notice how Vendetta refused to at first, give Shepard the location of the Catalyst due to Vendetta viewing the cycle as unable to defeat the Reapers.

Its all in the narrative.

[Dr_Extrem]

txgoldrush wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

well and its arm magically fit t the citadel ..

all other cycles simply forgot to mention this .... unimportant detail ... when they made the plans.


but it seams, that basic engineering does work this way in the meu.

No, not only previous cycles are utterly retarded, but council races in Shepard's cycle also.
There is so much giant space objects in current cycle, so no one could ever guessed for which one those giant retractable docking arms are needed. 

or yet did you miss the fact that the Protheans knew the Citadel was the hub of the Mass Relay system? That the Reapers built it?

yes .. but those geniuses forgot to write that into the plans. the asari could have gone extinct ... or tat war with the humans ..

or maybe the geniuses wanted to make sure the current cycle can defeat the Reapers before giving them the last component.

Notice how Vendetta refused to at first, give Shepard the location of the Catalyst due to Vendetta viewing the cycle as unable to defeat the Reapers.

Its all in the narrative.

what a strange kind of logic are you building together? ... so defeating the reapers is not as important as the ability for the cycle to do it without the catalyst?

he refused to cooperate, because vendetta saw this cycle as already doomed (because the reapers were already invading). we wanted to warn the next cycle.


:abandon thread:

[Maxster_]

Cheviot wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Cheviot wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

Are you talking about the Crucible or the Conduit from ME1?

Guess you never played ME1. You know, mass relays, massless corridors and all that. 

You guessed wrong.  I played ME1, a game where everyone talks about a device with an unknown function - the Crucible - that doesn't get explained until the end of the game.  Also, it's slightly more than a relay, since it can send craft though solid objects like the walls of the Citadel.

Any relay can send craft through solid objects. Otherwise, relay network would never work.
Also, you obviously using standard bi0drone "defense" - about Conduit. Having no idea about ME1 plot, as always.
You know, Shepard was looking for Conduit only because this was only link for Saren. And galaxy is big, you know.

[Ticonderoga117]

txgoldrush wrote...
or maybe the geniuses wanted to make sure the current cycle can defeat the Reapers before giving them the last component.

Notice how Vendetta refused to at first, give Shepard the location of the Catalyst due to Vendetta viewing the cycle as unable to defeat the Reapers.

Its all in the narrative.

Question. If conventional victory is impossible and the only hope is the Crucible... how would Vendetta ever unlock the final piece? Isn't the Crucible supposed to be the ultimate "win"?

[txgoldrush]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

well and its arm magically fit t the citadel ..

all other cycles simply forgot to mention this .... unimportant detail ... when they made the plans.


but it seams, that basic engineering does work this way in the meu.

No, not only previous cycles are utterly retarded, but council races in Shepard's cycle also.
There is so much giant space objects in current cycle, so no one could ever guessed for which one those giant retractable docking arms are needed. 

or yet did you miss the fact that the Protheans knew the Citadel was the hub of the Mass Relay system? That the Reapers built it?

yes .. but those geniuses forgot to write that into the plans. the asari could have gone extinct ... or tat war with the humans ..

or maybe the geniuses wanted to make sure the current cycle can defeat the Reapers before giving them the last component.

Notice how Vendetta refused to at first, give Shepard the location of the Catalyst due to Vendetta viewing the cycle as unable to defeat the Reapers.

Its all in the narrative.

what a strange kind of logic are you building together? ... so defeating the reapers is not as important as the ability for the cycle to do it without the catalyst?

he refused to cooperate, because vendetta saw this cycle as already doomed (because the reapers were already invading). we wanted to warn the next cycle.


:abandon thread:

No, the logic is to make sure the Crucible doesn't fall into the hands of the enemy due to a cycle that is unprepared. Also notice how he shuts down when indoctrinated agents arrive.

[txgoldrush]

Maxster_ wrote...

Cheviot wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Cheviot wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

Are you talking about the Crucible or the Conduit from ME1?

Guess you never played ME1. You know, mass relays, massless corridors and all that. 

You guessed wrong.  I played ME1, a game where everyone talks about a device with an unknown function - the Crucible - that doesn't get explained until the end of the game.  Also, it's slightly more than a relay, since it can send craft though solid objects like the walls of the Citadel.

Any relay can send craft through solid objects. Otherwise, relay network would never work.
Also, you obviously using standard bi0drone "defense" - about Conduit. Having no idea about ME1 plot, as always.
You know, Shepard was looking for Conduit only because this was only link for Saren. And galaxy is big, you know.

And yet ME1 stumbles because why does Saren have to go through so much trouble to locate a teleporter to the Presidium when he can logically have other methods of capturing the Citadel for Sovereign without it, while not exposing himself, such as indoctrinated agents.

[Maxster_]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
or maybe the geniuses wanted to make sure the current cycle can defeat the Reapers before giving them the last component.

Notice how Vendetta refused to at first, give Shepard the location of the Catalyst due to Vendetta viewing the cycle as unable to defeat the Reapers.

Its all in the narrative.

Question. If conventional victory is impossible and the only hope is the Crucible... how would Vendetta ever unlock the final piece? Isn't the Crucible supposed to be the ultimate "win"?

Because reasons.
Not a single part of ME3 excuse of a plot makes any sense.
So, only hope to win against reapers is the Crucible. But we will send only part of information, which is useless without last part, because that should be a test for ... something, i guess. 

[txgoldrush]

Maxster_ wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
or maybe the geniuses wanted to make sure the current cycle can defeat the Reapers before giving them the last component.

Notice how Vendetta refused to at first, give Shepard the location of the Catalyst due to Vendetta viewing the cycle as unable to defeat the Reapers.

Its all in the narrative.

Question. If conventional victory is impossible and the only hope is the Crucible... how would Vendetta ever unlock the final piece? Isn't the Crucible supposed to be the ultimate "win"?

Because reasons.
Not a single part of ME3 excuse of a plot makes any sense.
So, only hope to win against reapers is the Crucible. But we will send only part of information, which is useless without last part, because that should be a test for ... something, i guess. 

or maybe because the story is more logical than you are.....

Why would the Protheans jeporadize the cycles of the future by giving up the ultimate plans to an unprepared cycle that it views is doomed to fail? That didn't heed its warning until it was too late?

[Cheviot]

Maxster_ wrote...
You know, Shepard was looking for Conduit only because this was only link for Saren. And galaxy is big, you know.

Yeah, and Shepard was searching for the Catalyst because it was the only hope for defeating the Reapers. What's your point?

[Maxster_]

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Cheviot wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Cheviot wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

Are you talking about the Crucible or the Conduit from ME1?

Guess you never played ME1. You know, mass relays, massless corridors and all that. 

You guessed wrong.  I played ME1, a game where everyone talks about a device with an unknown function - the Crucible - that doesn't get explained until the end of the game.  Also, it's slightly more than a relay, since it can send craft though solid objects like the walls of the Citadel.

Any relay can send craft through solid objects. Otherwise, relay network would never work.
Also, you obviously using standard bi0drone "defense" - about Conduit. Having no idea about ME1 plot, as always.
You know, Shepard was looking for Conduit only because this was only link for Saren. And galaxy is big, you know.

And yet ME1 stumbles because why does Saren have to go through so much trouble to locate a teleporter to the Presidium when he can logically have other methods of capturing the Citadel for Sovereign without it, while not exposing himself, such as indoctrinated agents.

Have you ever read codex about indoctrination? So, fastly created equivalent of dumb husks(agents), who have no access to a citadel tower, will suddenly, somehow, take said tower against c-sec.
Riiight 

You are making no sense deliberately? 

[Cheviot]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
or maybe the geniuses wanted to make sure the current cycle can defeat the Reapers before giving them the last component.

Notice how Vendetta refused to at first, give Shepard the location of the Catalyst due to Vendetta viewing the cycle as unable to defeat the Reapers.

Its all in the narrative.

Question. If conventional victory is impossible and the only hope is the Crucible... how would Vendetta ever unlock the final piece? Isn't the Crucible supposed to be the ultimate "win"?

I think it was expecting to be found by non-indoctrinated people at some point between Soverign's failure to open the Citadel Relay and the arrival of the Reapers in occupied space.

[TheProtheans]

You're preaching to the choir and some of the handicapped.

[txgoldrush]

Maxster_ wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Cheviot wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Cheviot wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

 

Also notice that the Crucible is thematically consistant of a past cycle helping the current cycle, which was set up in ME1. Detractors want to ignore this when they try and claim the the Crucible doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.

Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale. 

Are you talking about the Crucible or the Conduit from ME1?

Guess you never played ME1. You know, mass relays, massless corridors and all that. 

You guessed wrong.  I played ME1, a game where everyone talks about a device with an unknown function - the Crucible - that doesn't get explained until the end of the game.  Also, it's slightly more than a relay, since it can send craft though solid objects like the walls of the Citadel.

Any relay can send craft through solid objects. Otherwise, relay network would never work.
Also, you obviously using standard bi0drone "defense" - about Conduit. Having no idea about ME1 plot, as always.
You know, Shepard was looking for Conduit only because this was only link for Saren. And galaxy is big, you know.

And yet ME1 stumbles because why does Saren have to go through so much trouble to locate a teleporter to the Presidium when he can logically have other methods of capturing the Citadel for Sovereign without it, while not exposing himself, such as indoctrinated agents.

Have you ever read codex about indoctrination? So, fastly created equivalent of dumb husks(agents), who have no access to a citadel tower, will suddenly, somehow, take said tower against c-sec.
Riiight 

You are making no sense deliberately? 

Or use indoctrinated agents to slip geth into the Citadel, or bring a trojan horse artifact on board...not that hard.

[Maxster_]

Cheviot wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...
You know, Shepard was looking for Conduit only because this was only link for Saren. And galaxy is big, you know.

Yeah, and Shepard was searching for the Catalyst because it was the only hope for defeating the Reapers. What's your point?

Lack of basic reading skills? Or basic reading comprehension?

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.
Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale

How does that my post relates to your current post?
Answer is - it does not. What was the point of your post? You have nothing to say about my point, your assertion was proven false, but you still need to say something? I guess so 

[string3r]

Yes, it did feel rather convenient that we just happened to find a superweapon of stopping the reapers the moment they arrived.

But hey, that's what happens when you don't plan a story.

[Tomwew]

Prothean scientest: "we must leave behind information so the primitave apes can defeat the reapers in the next cycle."
Prothean politician: "let's leave it on the dead planet next door to them."
scientest: "i suppose it won't be much use until they've discovered spaceflight but even so shouldn't we make it as accessible as possible?"
politician: "we should make information on mass effect technology and the relay system (which we know leads to the reaper trap citadel) easily accessible and go to great lengths to hide the information on the reaper killing device. also omit the information on the final vital component."
scientest: "that sounds like a stupid pla.."
politician: "good it's decided"
scientest: "damn space republicans."

[Ticonderoga117]

txgoldrush wrote...
or maybe because the story is more logical than you are.....

Why would the Protheans jeporadize the cycles of the future by giving up the ultimate plans to an unprepared cycle that it views is doomed to fail? That didn't heed its warning until it was too late?

A. They encrypted the warning and the plans, what did they think would happen!
B. If we can't pass down the information, it's all for naught.
C. It's not jepradizing anything!

[Cheviot]

Maxster_ wrote...

Cheviot wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...
You know, Shepard was looking for Conduit only because this was only link for Saren. And galaxy is big, you know.

Yeah, and Shepard was searching for the Catalyst because it was the only hope for defeating the Reapers. What's your point?

Lack of basic reading skills? Or basic reading comprehension?

Don't be so hard on yourself.  I'm sure, with the right help, you'll be understanding that "reading skills" and "reading comprehension" are basically the same thing in no time.

Maxster_ wrote...

Yeah yeah, someone designed an unknown device with unknown function which should interface with another unknown device with unknown function, unknown interface, unknown location and unconfirmed existence and ever need of it.
Makes sense... in a nonsensical fairytale

How does that my post relates to your current post?

My post relates to a later post.  The clue for that is that I quoted that later post.