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[Ruairi46]

Well my current DA:O character constantly spits on anything chantry related and treats it as a joke so who knows?

[Liamv2]

I hope so i hate the chantry

[Rorschachinstein]

probably not

[SafetyShattered]

Rorschachinstein wrote...

probably not

[Bwleon7]

krul2k wrote...

simple question

will my character be giving the option not to believe in the "maker"?

The warden pretty much proved the marker was real. But anyone who was not with the warden would not know that so it should still be an option. Also Hawke found some pretty strong evidence that the black city is real in one of the dlc.

And note that believing in the maker does not automaticly make you a follower of the chantry. Maker could be real but totally different from what the chantry says it is.

Modifié par Bwleon7, 01 janvier 2013 - 01:06 .

[Emzamination]

Do we never get any new topics? Gaider said months ago that the character would not be able to be an atheist in a political sense but wouldn't have to follow the Andrastian religion either.

[NoForgiveness]

The pc will be human so.. I doubt it.

[whykikyouwhy]

krul2k wrote...

yeah so does mine but it a tad hard to stomach when the VO constantly invokes the makers name

da2 is a 18+ game just let them say F***k off or somein similair, its really immersive breaking for my PC to constasntly invoke the makers makers makers makers, yeah thats right the makers name

Lots of people who don't follow any particular religion will invoke a deity's name as a curse. I imagine it's the same in Thedas. The Maker is a familiar name/entity/legend/whatever you want to call him - so he's easy prey for epithets.

[BlueMagitek]

The same reason an atheist can still say "God damn it!" or "Jesus Christ!" (or any variation involving some deity). They may not follow a religion, but the phrases are more or less common profanity depending on the location.

[Emzamination]

krul2k wrote...

ok then if thats the case why does my character constantly quote the "maker" in vo in combat or whatever if i do not need to follow it

if the character doesnt have to follow the andresttian religion, then why in the 7 hells does my character have to say "andraste this" or "andraste that" or maker" this or "maker" that WHY??? its bloody annoyingm its a 18+ game why cant they just say ohhhh fffs

Christ... O my god... good lord... I swear to god... Jesus!... For the love of god...

[New Display Name]

I'm a secular atheist, I say "Oh my God" or "Jesus Christ," despite not believing. It's due to the society I lived and am living in.
That same could go for your atheist (if allowed) and/or secular player character.

[In Exile]

BlueMagitek wrote...

The same reason an atheist can still say "God damn it!" or "Jesus Christ!" (or any variation involving some deity). They may not follow a religion, but the phrases are more or less common profanity depending on the location.

I use God damn it all the time, and I'm about as atheist as the come. I like how it rolls of the tongue, and it's a common insult in the English language.

Modifié par In Exile, 01 janvier 2013 - 01:13 .

[lil yonce]

krul2k wrote...

yeah so does mine but it a tad hard to stomach when the VO constantly invokes the makers name. da2 is a 18+ game just let them say F***k off or somein similair, its really immersive breaking for my PC to constasntly invoke the makers makers makers makers, yeah thats right the makers name

on a side note its GODDAMN annoying lol

I don't see why the invocation bothers atheists. The phrase, "Oh my God!" is so common it has shorthand for texting now-- OMG-- and many who use it don't believe in God. Do you believe in God? If you don't, by that logic, you should never say, "Goddamn". Same thing in the DA universe. "Thank God", "Thank the Maker", etc. its just something alot people say unconsciously. It doesn't declare their beliefs about the existence of a god.

Modifié par Youth4Ever, 02 janvier 2013 - 09:03 .

[mousestalker]

I don't believe in punctuation or spelling but I use them all the time. It's this society in which we live. The constraints and requirements of proper dialogue dictate you use the tools you detest. Oh cruel world! How your narrow demands chafe and bind! How I sacrifice myself for the betterment of my fellows!

[ObserverStatus]

I don't give a crap about atheism, I want my Inquisitor to be able to worship demons.

[LobselVith8]

Bwleon7 wrote...

krul2k wrote...

simple question

will my character be giving the option not to believe in the "maker"?

The warden pretty much proved the marker was real.

No, The Warden didn't. Oghren said a thick wall of lyrium was impacting the ashes and the temple; it isn't proof of the Maker. Corypheus' version of events also seems to contradict what the Chantry claims is the truth, so there's no proof from Dragon Age II that the Maker us real, either.

My Surana Warden espoused atheist views, and didn't believe in a religion that destroyed the second homeland of his people (as he told the priestess of the Chantry). It remains to be seen if the new protagonist will be written to be religiously Andrastian like Hawke was.

[Homebound]

Its Bioware's game. Let them create characters that worship them! Remember the "Maker" isn't some nebulous idea, it is literally Bioware, the "Maker" of the game. In the eyes of the fictional characters in this world, we are eldritch monsters and we know ourselves to be very very real.

Modifié par Homebound, 01 janvier 2013 - 02:28 .

[billy the squid]

Will my character be given the option to worship the great and powerful Nug. That's the real question.

[LobselVith8]

krul2k wrote...

ok then if thats the case why does my character constantly quote the "maker" in vo in combat or whatever if i do not need to follow it

if the character doesnt have to follow the andresttian religion, then why in the 7 hells does my character have to say "andraste this" or "andraste that" or maker" this or "maker" that WHY??? its bloody annoyingm its a 18+ game why cant they just say ohhhh fffs

edit: post not to you whyyyk

Hawke does say Leandra is with the Maker, and tells Feynriel (who he knows believes in the Creators) that he hopes the Maker watches over him; in addition to the religious conversation Hawke can have with Sebastian. Hawke is written as being religiously Andrastian. I'm not sure why, when we had a choice to determine whether The Warden believed in the Maker or not.