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[paxxton]

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[quote]Eterna5 wrote...

 Yep. Tonight on of my girlfriends came over

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LOL. How many girlfriends do you have?
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I think he's either a straight scumbag or a gay stereotype haha, take your pick[/quote]
I'm not actually here to judge him. Maybe all his girlfriends get along nicely.[/quote]

Ummm how many people do you know who actually have more than one girlfriend?

I think it's unlikely haha.

Plus I already know he's gay, so[/quote]
I have no problem with that. But now I know the context and didn't just resort to preemptive judgment. So peace![/quote]

I don't want to post more definitions on here, but maybe I should post the one for 'joke' because you don't seem to understand it


Kiddin


Mayvbe

I don't even know anymore....
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 Chill out.

Btw, are you Flog63 posting from a different account?[/quote]

Welll, I used to be Flog61

Then I got banned...

Then I become 'the 62nd Flog'

Then I got banned...

Now I'm Flog the 63rd. Yay.[/quote]
Haha! I had a feeling it was you. Why did you got banned?[/quote]

I can't even remember why.


I'm surprised Ninja Stan even bothers getting off his fat arse to ban me if I can just make a new account anyway
[/quote]
Perhaps banning discourages real spammers who don't want to sign up for another account. Am I right? [/quote]

A true spammer never gives up on spamming, my friend[/quote]
True, I should've written "an amateur troll." [/quote]

Hey, who are you calling 'amateur'?

I, sir, am a professional[/quote]
I wasn't talking about you. You started a fresh account. Even two.  You ain't no troll. You're just a legitimate BSN poster. [/quote]

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This pyramid is enormous![/quote]

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It's an ancient alien space ship!

[Dav3VsTh3World]

Ohhhh I get it now

It's not that the angry BSN fans don't understand the Catalyst's logic

It's that they don't want to understand it to create the fake illusion that the ending is flawed and gives them a reason to change it.

[Almostfaceman]

My friend who has never played Mass Effect before doesn't understand the Catalysts logic. They think it's defeatist circular logic, incredibly short-sighted and doesn't place any faith in life's ability to learn, adapt, evolve for the better. They say that logic puts forth the notion that there's no point in having ideals of co-existence and learning to live with and recognize new life forms. 

Modifié par Almostfaceman, 01 janvier 2013 - 03:47 .

[RocketManSR2]

The Catalyst is out of it's cotton pickin' mind. /topic

[D1ck1e]

Who said anything about not understanding it, OP?

[Mastone]

Is the OP trolling or what?
The ending of ME3 to me was the same as Indiana Jones 4 and the starwars prequels.
If there wasn't any movie/game before them it would be a pasable movie/game, but since the first movies/game were a helluvalot better and also had set a certain expectancy with regards to story/gameplay, they failed in my opinion

[dreamgazer]

Context.

For instance, if somebody's holding a handful of peanuts and are hungry, you'd naturally tell them to eat the peanuts to satisfy their hunger since that's the way nuts work. However, if someone else told you earlier in the day that the person was allergic to peanuts and that there's a bag full of apples in the next room which could do the same thing, you'd tell them not to eat the peanuts and go after the apples.

Understanding his logic isn't the true problem, even if his cyclical programming is dense. It's applying his logic to this universe, within these parameters.

[Maniccc]

Eterna5 wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

GT Zazzerka wrote...

She played only the ending? Then she had zero context.

With only the Catalyst's conversation to go on, it sounds more legitimate. Synthetics will always rebel, this is why, here is how we can fix it.

Did she also achieve peace on Rannoch? Did she follow EDI's development?

I told her what the Geth were and who EDI was. Not in great detail but she got the overall picture. Anyways, you don't need those to understand the Catalysts point. 

So you just summerized up those characters in a few sentences and she automatically knows their depth and personalities and importance.

...what the hell, yes you do need to understand them, that way you know how stupidly wrong Starbrat is.

He isn't wrong though, The geth did rebel and almost cause the extinction of their creators. Would peace have been achieved without Shepard? Or would the Quarians have just died? 

Shepard being an exception to the rule does not disprove the rule.  The whole Galaxy bends to shepards whims, but what happens if SHepard isn't there?

No, the Geth did not rebel.  They were attacked by the Quarians...TWICE.  Well, now we know why she thinks it makes sense, you yourself don't understand what happened....  Moving on.

[jtav]

The Catalyst's logic makes formal sense but not narrative sense. The geth and especially EDI point to AI not being fundamentally incompatible with organics. I understand the singularity hypothesis just fine. I don't understand how it's a problem in this universe.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

wow looks at the quotes.

[dreamgazer]

DinoSteve wrote...

wow looks at the quotes.

And those poor smilies are trapped inside!

[Dr_Extrem]

ninja stan will free them .. it just a matter of time.

Modifié par Dr_Extrem, 01 janvier 2013 - 04:26 .

[Samtheman63]

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 Yep. Tonight on of my girlfriends came over

*snip*[/quote]
LOL. How many girlfriends do you have?
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I think he's either a straight scumbag or a gay stereotype haha, take your pick[/quote]
I'm not actually here to judge him. Maybe all his girlfriends get along nicely.[/quote]

Ummm how many people do you know who actually have more than one girlfriend?

I think it's unlikely haha.

Plus I already know he's gay, so[/quote]
I have no problem with that. But now I know the context and didn't just resort to preemptive judgment. So peace![/quote]

I don't want to post more definitions on here, but maybe I should post the one for 'joke' because you don't seem to understand it


Kiddin


Mayvbe

I don't even know anymore....
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 Chill out.

Btw, are you Flog63 posting from a different account?[/quote]

Welll, I used to be Flog61

Then I got banned...

Then I become 'the 62nd Flog'

Then I got banned...

Now I'm Flog the 63rd. Yay.[/quote]
Haha! I had a feeling it was you. Why did you got banned?[/quote]

I can't even remember why.


I'm surprised Ninja Stan even bothers getting off his fat arse to ban me if I can just make a new account anyway
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Perhaps banning discourages real spammers who don't want to sign up for another account. Am I right? [/quote]

A true spammer never gives up on spamming, my friend[/quote]
True, I should've written "an amateur troll." [/quote]

Hey, who are you calling 'amateur'?

I, sir, am a professional[/quote]
I wasn't talking about you. You started a fresh account. Even two.  You ain't no troll. You're just a legitimate BSN poster. [/quote]

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This pyramid is enormous![/quote]

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It's an ancient alien space ship! [/quote]

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[crimzontearz]

Several of my neurons committed suicide after I peeked at this thread

[Wayning_Star]

it's not about the catlysts' logic, so much as the haves against the have nots. Old story, been around earth for about ever and apparently infested the MEU with doubt'n pain.. The Cat is just confused as to how to translate to organics the choice of keeping what you have or not. You see, the organics need synthetics, but the synthetics don't really need the organics. So, if you want the two to get along, you have to forge some sort of mutual need, based in the MEU and the dependence on technology to handle all the leg work/technical stuff. As organics are good at it, but wear down pretty easy. They invented the tools to compensate, but the tools progressed past use, evolved. This occurs spontaniously. Something the universe is good at, spontaniousness.

Will the haves share the wealth or will the synthetics just take it from them?(this equates the fire symbol) It's all related to the spontanious evocation of "life" as we consider it from our perspective.

The synthetic catalyst merely reflects the synthetic version/perspective.

But... the actual choices are not from the catalyst as well as the tools for their inception. That is a bigger mystery than the catalyst.

[Dr_Extrem]

holy moley ... this will not end well.


this thread set my mousewheel on fire!

[Dr_Extrem]

Flog the 63rd wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

holy moley ... this will not end well.


this thread set my mousewheel on fire!

It's ninja stan's fault, he's not doing his job.

he is probably still sleeping ..

on topic ... it is not about understanding it .. it is the context of the series that gives me head-desk moments, whenever i see the catalyst.

Modifié par Dr_Extrem, 01 janvier 2013 - 04:46 .

[Mcfly616]

millsenberry wrote...



i know the majority of you have seen this, but this sums up the catalyt's logic perfectly.

No....it doesn't

Funny to see people still using this pic though. It's a blatant admission that the ending went waaay over their heads