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[Wayning_Star]

fiendishchicken wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

we can cause galactic extinction in refuse ending but we cant talk about religion?

we can become god in control ending but cant talk about religion?

we can punch a space monkey in the face in ME2 but we cant talk about religion?

We can tip a stripper but we can't talk about religion?

We can show partial nudity but we can't talk about religion?

We can let people die in pursuit of a mission but we can't talk about religion?

We can talk about religion with Ashley in the first game, but we can't talk about religion in the third?

well, its 'kind' of like synthesis...so..

[ziloe]

jtav wrote...

It's in the leaked script. I just pulled it up.

Can you kindly please post a link in this thread, for all those naysayers? 

[Iakus]

fiendishchicken wrote...

I would have loved to have shat on her once and for all doing that.

I just wish it didn't have to be romance specific (It looks like a romance).

This explains why Kaidan got a cool scene with Shepard talking about the nature of Cerberus and TIM, but why Ashley gets nothing. Idc in the long run, I either kill her (Virmire or coup) or give her to Hackett.

The screenshots were from the romance scene, but I don't think the dialogue was meant to be romance specific

It was only in the script, it doesn't actually appear in the game, so there are no actual scenes of it..

[Pyk]

To me it's a perfect conversation for upcoming DLC.

Especially as we know that Virmire Survivor voice actors (Kaidan confirmed) are involved.

Such conversation could provide pretty good closure to entire series, as the next and last DLC is in fact a farewell to Commander Shepard.

[The Spamming Troll]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

we can cause galactic extinction but we cant talk about religion?

It's almost as bad as showering without underwear.

i feel like we should be friends.

[KingWrex]

Ash desperately needs more character development in ME3 she does absolutely nothing except when she gets drunk. I don't mind the Cerberus doubts it adds a bit of drama if you ask me, but seriously she needs more in her character arc, cause currently it isn't even that it's a straight line.

[Krimzie]

I like this scene a lot and wish it was included. Granted, I don't have Ash in ME3, but it has always irked me that the fact that Shepard was dead for two years is brushed away so often. I want to know more about his/her doubts regarding that resurrection. I want to know more about what s/he thought about while locked up for six months. This does all of that very cleanly, IMO.

[brummyuk19]

Barquiel wrote...

I don't think this scene was in the leaked script either. Are you sure this is legit?

It's legit. There was a video of it on youtube a while back.

[Wayning_Star]

KingWrex wrote...

Ash desperately needs more character development in ME3 she does absolutely nothing except when she gets drunk. I don't mind the Cerberus doubts it adds a bit of drama if you ask me, but seriously she needs more in her character arc, cause currently it isn't even that it's a straight line.

I never forgave her for dissing me about cerberus.. She should know Sheps on the up'n up.. but she cops an attitude over it all?

[Wayning_Star]

brummyuk19 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

I don't think this scene was in the leaked script either. Are you sure this is legit?

It's legit. There was a video of it on youtube a while back.

I don't know about the youtubed one, but that one came at me as fanfictional...

[Endurium]

I also wish Ashley had more to say; she felt like one of those cheap DLCs (Kasumi, Zaeed) rather than a main character. I don't mind her religious beliefs either; they don't threaten me.

If it was cut for religious excuses, blame western developers caving in to all the people too insecure in their own beliefs to accept that someone else might believe differently. Sad.

To make matters worse, one of her ammunition skills bugs out so she sits in cover toggling it constantly, rather than fighting, so I was forced to leave her on the Normandy the whole time she was part of my crew.

I did enjoy meeting her younger sister, though I couldn't see a family resemblance...

Modifié par Endurium, 01 janvier 2013 - 07:53 .

[Wayning_Star]

Endurium wrote...

I also wish Ashley had more to say; she felt like one of those cheap DLCs (Kasumi, Zaeed) rather than a main character. I don't mind her religious beliefs either; they don't threaten me.

If it was cut for religious excuses, blame western developers caving in to all the people too insecure in their own beliefs to accept that someone else might believe differently. Sad.

To make matters worse, one of her ammunition skills bugs out so she sits in cover toggling it constantly, rather than fighting, so I was forced to leave her on the Normandy the whole time she was part of my crew.

too many religions to guess at a synthesis of same?

[Rifneno]

I'd only want the scene in if there was a way to troll her. Start making **** up. And I say that as a Christian. I just hate Ashhole.

[jtav]

The entire convo from the script, unorganized.

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<data>Hey Commander, I was just about to go look for you. </data>
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<string>
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<data>I have a question for you. I wasn't sure...well, it's not exactly regulation. </data>
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<string>
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<data>Laying there in the hospital, I had a lot of time to think. Lots of stuff going on, lots to try and deal with.</data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630331</id>
<position>31298</position>
<data>...and thanks for coming by. Hospitals always make me nervous. Something about shuffling off our mortal coil, y'know?</data>
</string>
<string>
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<position>31299</position>
<data>I couldn't wait to get out of there. I hate hospitals. Hate the smell. Hate the colors. Hate the reminder of...the end, Y'know?</data>
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<data>-1</data>
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<string>
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<data>Yeah...well, I guess I'll come out and ask; you were dead...weren't you? I mean...really dead. Right?</data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630335</id>
<position>31302</position>
<data>{Long pause} What did you see? Bright light? Dark tunnel? Anything?</data>
</string>
<string>
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<position>31303</position>
<data>It is what it is, Shepard. There's no right or wrong. </data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630337</id>
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<data>That's hard to believe. </data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630338</id>
<position>31305</position>
<data>You died! You saw what's next. How can anyone not be curious about that?</data>
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<position>31306</position>
<data>-1</data>
</string>
<string>
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<data>What do you mean?</data>
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<data>-1</data>
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<string>
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<data>-1</data>
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<string>
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<position>31310</position>
<data>Did you see anything?</data>
</string>
<string>
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<position>31311</position>
<data>Really?</data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630346</id>
<position>31312</position>
<data>So you don't know. </data>
</string>
<string>
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<data>I guess the big question won't get answered today. </data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630348</id>
<position>31314</position>
<data>Well, crap. You failed as my life-after-death inside source. </data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630349</id>
<position>31315</position>
<data>Please don't. </data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630350</id>
<position>31316</position>
<data>Nothing at all?</data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630351</id>
<position>31317</position>
<data>What are you afraid of?</data>
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<position>31318</position>
<data>-1</data>
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<string>
<id>630353</id>
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<data>What do you mean?</data>
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<string>
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<position>31320</position>
<data>-1</data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630355</id>
<position>31321</position>
<data>Does it matter?</data>
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<position>31322</position>
<data>-1</data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630357</id>
<position>31323</position>
<data>What's up?</data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630358</id>
<position>31324</position>
<data>I'm curious. Shoot. </data>
</string>
<string>
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<position>31325</position>
<data>-1</data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630360</id>
<position>31326</position>
<data>I understand. I've spent more time in hospitals then my own ship. </data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630361</id>
<position>31327</position>
<data>You...had a question?</data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630362</id>
<position>31328</position>
<data>So I heard. I couldn't say for sure, but I think so. </data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630363</id>
<position>31329</position>
<data>That's a big question, Ash. I'm not sure the answer will be what you're looking for. </data>
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<position>31330</position>
<data>-1</data>
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<string>
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<data>I was wondering when you would come out and ask me. People haven't really asked. </data>
</string>
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<position>31332</position>
<data>-1</data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630368</id>
<position>31333</position>
<data>All right. I'll tell you what I know. </data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630369</id>
<position>31334</position>
<data>The truth is...I don't remember much. </data>
</string>
<string>
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<data>I remember floating after an explosion in the Normandy pushed me out into space. </data>
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<string>
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<position>31336</position>
<data>There was a sharp pain in my chest. I couldn't breath but could feel air being leeched from my lungs.</data>
</string>
<string>
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<position>31337</position>
<data>I struggled, tried to stop the air from leaking- all pointless...but it doesn't take long before it was all blackness.</data>
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<position>31338</position>
<data>I did see a light.</data>
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<string>
<id>630374</id>
<position>31339</position>
<data>It was the Cerberus lab, Ash. Nothing else. I heard voices, muffled for a bit. The next time I woke up, I had to escape the facility. </data>
</string>
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<id>630375</id>
<position>31340</position>
<data>I don't know. I'm sorry. </data>
</string>
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<id>630376</id>
<position>31341</position>
<data>I'm afraid not. </data>
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<string>
<id>630377</id>
<position>31342</position>
<data>I could dance for you. </data>
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<data>To tell the truth, I don't remember anything. </data>
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<data>Even with my experience, I don't think I should be answering questions about your beliefs. </data>
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<data>When I realized what had happened. What Cerberus had done to bring me back...I panicked. I shut down. </data>
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<data>I pushed the fear away just long enough to deal with the Collectors...but it didn't stay away. The time alone in Alliance lock-up I had to confront what I was. </data>
</string>
<string>
<id>630382</id>
<position>31347</position>
<data>Ash, I don't know if I died and came back...or simply died.</data>
</string>
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<id>630383</id>
<position>31348</position>
<data>I don't know if this is the Shepard you knew, or some incomplete copy. </data>
</string>
<string>
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<data>I don't know. </data>
</string>

[Endurium]

Thanks jtav, I really wish I'd been able to discuss that with Ash. It also brings some detail to what Shepard went through, which didn't seem apparent through ME2 and isn't commented on much in ME3.

[Pheonix57]

Wait, wait, wait... They cut this because of religious controversy, but they didn't cut Benezia's line in ME1?

Let me remind everyone: "No... No light? They always said there would be a--"

@ 5:55

[Endurium]

Pheonix57 wrote...

Wait, wait, wait... They cut this because of religious controversy, but they didn't cut Benezia's line in ME1?

Let me remind everyone: "No... No light? They always said there would be a--"

@ 5:55

Benezia is an asari, Ashley is a human; people probably relate better to Ashley (subconsciously), consequently focusing more on what she says.

Modifié par Endurium, 01 janvier 2013 - 08:08 .

[DirtySHISN0]

Pheonix57 wrote...

Wait, wait, wait... They cut this because of religious controversy, but they didn't cut Benezia's line in ME1?

Let me remind everyone: "No... No light? They always said there would be a--"

@ 5:55

Like mordin stating Eve as a name from human mythology.

I chuckled heartily.

[Pheonix57]

DirtySHISN0 wrote...


Like mordin stating Eve as a name from human mythology.

I chuckled heartily.

Even Legion makes some reference to the Bible being mythology, though I forget when.

[DirtySHISN0]

Pheonix57 wrote...
Even Legion makes some reference to the Bible being mythology, though I forget when.

Personally, i like it.

[Shepard108278]

My only complaint in ME 3 is that they cut this.

[Clayless]

I like how people are surprised that Bioware will avoid real world things due to controversy.

This should come as a surprise to no one who has wondered about the thing that's missing in ManShep romances in the first two games.

[Zardoc]

Shepard108278 wrote...

My only complaint in ME 3 is that they cut this.

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

I like how people are surprised that Bioware will avoid real world things due to controversy.

This should come as a surprise to no one who has wondered about the thing that's missing in ManShep romances in the first two games.

wat

Modifié par Zardoc, 01 janvier 2013 - 08:31 .

[Rifneno]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

I like how people are surprised that Bioware will avoid real world things due to controversy.

This should come as a surprise to no one who has wondered about the thing that's missing in ManShep romances in the first two games.

Surprised?  No.  After wearing bras in the shower and yet still fighting anatomically correct banshees, nothing surprises me about this game.