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[Doctoglethorpe]

People underestimate the advantages to being a launch title. Lots of people looking for good games to take their shiny new machine for a test drive with. Pretty much guaranteed to stand out in a sparse pack, thus little in the way of competition and easiest access to pick up new audiences. Not to mention I'm sure in these times it will come with a healthy bonus from the console manufacturers since the games being exclusive promote incentive for upgrading.

And lets not kid ourselves, after DA2's lackluster performance, the game NEEDS to stand out and reach a larger audience. Being at the rear end of a dying generation wouldn't help towards that at all.

Personally I still suspect it will be released across both gens, just because thats EA's MO. Definitely not less. But next gen exclusivity wouldn't really be that surprising if they plan to make good use of it. Hard to tell with EA, they are chlk full of bad decisions, but making DA3 exclusively next gen wouldn't be one.

As much as you guys may naturally be conservative on the topic, most of you will inevitably upgrade to next gen and buy the game regardless. Maybe not day 1, but it'll happen. You're just fighting change, as our species so effortlessly does. Its cute.

Modifié par Doctor Moustache, 02 janvier 2013 - 07:24 .

[PsychoBlonde]

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

It might a "transition" game meaning it will be out on the current consoles and the next gen consoles.

Or they might do a current generation initial release and release for the next gen 6 months later.  Assuming this wouldn't be an enormous pain in the ass and interfere with DLC releases and stuff, seems like it could be a good strategy.  But I don't know what would need to be re-done in order to do something like this.

[Fast Jimmy]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

It might a "transition" game meaning it will be out on the current consoles and the next gen consoles.

Or they might do a current generation initial release and release for the next gen 6 months later.  Assuming this wouldn't be an enormous pain in the ass and interfere with DLC releases and stuff, seems like it could be a good strategy.  But I don't know what would need to be re-done in order to do something like this.

Great minds post alike. 

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

I really, really hope it's next gen only.

This so much this, if its next gen only it means they will put more time into it.

[deuce985]

Highly unlikely. Businesses like money and EA/Bioware's best avenue of growth is access to everyone. Maybe it will be on next-gen consoles but that doesn't mean they'll ignore the 100 million+ install base between 360/PS3. That would be silly. Considering budgets continue to grow, it makes even less sense to make it next-gen exclusive on what will be a limited install base.

[King of the Evil Crabs]

Xewaka wrote...

I like how people has completely discarded the Wii-U when discussing the next generation of consoles, as if it wasn't part of it.

i completely forgot about the Wii-U. It is comparable to the Xbox 360 & ps3 this generation, what the Wii probably should have been.

Hopefully Sony & Microsoft announce a next gen that can take dragon age III to the next level. Think of all the games this gen the Wii did not host. You would not have had Dragon age on consoles if developers followed nintendos philosophy.


 

[Fiery Phoenix]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

It might a "transition" game meaning it will be out on the current consoles and the next gen consoles.

Or they might do a current generation initial release and release for the next gen 6 months later.  Assuming this wouldn't be an enormous pain in the ass and interfere with DLC releases and stuff, seems like it could be a good strategy.  But I don't know what would need to be re-done in order to do something like this.

Likely as they've already done this with ME3, releasing it on the WiiU several months following the original launch.

Regardless, I've decided to play DA3 on PC, despite having played both Origins and DA2 on 360. I'm not too worried about my saves; I'll grab the save generator from a friend and call it a day.

[Navasha]

My take on it is that either it will be either current-gen-only title or a next-gen-only title, not a cross-compatible version. If its a launch title they are going to want to make it look "next gen" which means it won't work on the current consoles. I would probably put money on it being a 'current' gen title only since it has been in development for a couple years already. Thats kind of hard to do without having any idea of what specs you are developing for. Making it a current gen title will likely be able to played on the next gen if they are backward compatible, though it won't then be marketed as a next gen game.

As a PC player, both have pros and cons. If its a current gen title then it means its still fairly dated, rather than what it could be. If its a next gen title exclusive, then it will likely mean a fair delay until the specs are worked out, which means likely 2014 release.

[Steppenwolf]

XX-Pyro wrote...

I highly doubt it will sell on next gen consoles at all. Perhaps, like Jimmy said, a re-release might happen, but making a game next-gen exclusive when this game can make or break the series for BioWare (and by extension, EA) would be a terrible decision from a business standpoint. It would sell horribly. EA wouldn't do this. 

Pretty much this. And it wouldn't even make much sense to release it on next-gen consoles at some later date. It costs a significant amount of money to do that and they would have to do it for 2 consoles. Then factor in that they would have to make the game prettier to get people to buy it on those new consoles and you're looking at a huge investment with almost no chance of making a return.

[tfcreative]

I haven't seen this theory yet:

While it would be technically difficult, I can certainly see the strategic benefit to releasing next gen first, then porting to current gen after 3-6 months. EA would get a chunk of money out of console makers for timed exclusivity, a very high attach rate to new console sales with very little competition up front, and later be able to bring it to the older consoles to get the big install base. I can recall that well into the life of the PS3 there were dual gen releases that still sold better on the PS2, so there would be considerable time to move more units to the late adopters with no plans to upgrade in the first year of the new consoles.

Just a thought, but not based on any real info.

[Steppenwolf]

tfcreative wrote...

I haven't seen this theory yet:

While it would be technically difficult, I can certainly see the strategic benefit to releasing next gen first, then porting to current gen after 3-6 months. EA would get a chunk of money out of console makers for timed exclusivity, a very high attach rate to new console sales with very little competition up front, and later be able to bring it to the older consoles to get the big install base. I can recall that well into the life of the PS3 there were dual gen releases that still sold better on the PS2, so there would be considerable time to move more units to the late adopters with no plans to upgrade in the first year of the new consoles.

Just a thought, but not based on any real info.

That's not how it works. Why would Sony and Microsoft pay for a title that the other would also get? They would gain nothing from the deal. And how would the logistics of such a thing even work? Microsoft makes an offer and Sony has to match it? Sony pays one amount and Microsoft pays another? No, it makes no sense.

[Emzamination]

Xewaka wrote...

I like how people has completely discarded the Wii-U when discussing the next generation of consoles, as if it wasn't part of it.

That's because it's nothing special worth mentioning.

[LobselVith8]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

And lets not kid ourselves, after DA2's lackluster performance, the game NEEDS to stand out and reach a larger audience. Being at the rear end of a dying generation wouldn't help towards that at all. 

You have a very good point there, Doctor. Dragon Age II disappointed a plethora of fans.

Emzamination wrote...

Xewaka wrote...

I like how people has completely discarded the Wii-U when discussing the next generation of consoles, as if it wasn't part of it.

That's because it's nothing special worth mentioning. 

Just curious, is there a reason you made that belligerent and unnecessary comment about me?

Modifié par LobselVith8, 03 janvier 2013 - 04:10 .

[Emzamination]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Xewaka wrote...

I like how people has completely discarded the Wii-U when discussing the next generation of consoles, as if it wasn't part of it.

That's because it's nothing special worth mentioning.

Just curious, is there a reason you made that belligerent and unnecessary comment about me?

When did you become a wii-u? 

[Steppenwolf]

The Wii-U is basically just a late entrant to the current console gen. It's just as powerful as the current gen. The only thing that makes it different is that controller. Hell, none of the Wii-U games available even look as good as the newer 360/PS3 games. ME3 looks worse on Wii-U...

[LobselVith8]

Emzamination wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Just curious, is there a reason you made that belligerent and unnecessary comment about me?

When did you become a wii-u? 

I'm addressing your other post about me. I'm wondering why you seem to have a lack of restraint when you see my posts.

[Emzamination]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Just curious, is there a reason you made that belligerent and unnecessary comment about me?

When did you become a wii-u? 

I'm addressing your other post about me. I'm wondering why you seem to have a lack of restraint when you see my posts.

My stating gaider already shut down your argument was a belligerent comment against you? lol, take it to pm lobsel, we don't want to derail the thread.

[The Night Haunter]

If it is next-gen exclusive it will be a better game. Having to make the game work on current-gen (very, very old tech) requires putting limits on what they do. Removing these limits could make for a better game.

[LobselVith8]

Filament wrote...

Dragging rotting beef from a locked thread all over the forum is rather poor form, yea. If you really want emzam to see your beef you should take it to PMs.

I think it's poor form to continually lie about and harass someone every time you come across one of their posts, and I can do without Emzamination trolling me every time I post in this forum.

Emzamination wrote...

My stating gaider already shut down your argument was a belligerent comment against you? lol, take it to pm lobsel, we don't want to derail the thread. 

Shut down what argument? You linked to a post where Gaider talked about people who felt that Leliana came across as anti-mage because of Act III's "Faith", which had nothing to do with my statement that I thought atheism should be included in Inquisition. Plenty of people felt that way after "Faith", and that wasn't on-topic for that thread.

When I said I didn't think there was anything left to discuss for the atheism thread, I didn't see the point in you trying to provoke an argument with your off-topic comment afterwards. It was flame bait on your part once again. You have this habit of doing that in response to my posts, and I don't see the need for you to continue that habit. Knock it off, Emzamination.

Modifié par LobselVith8, 03 janvier 2013 - 04:13 .

[DragonMage95]

Xewaka wrote...

I like how people has completely discarded the Wii-U when discussing the next generation of consoles, as if it wasn't part of it.

I agree. I've been thinking that if the next-gen rumors are true then it'd be Dragon Age 3 coming to WiiU. It seems DA3 on the WiiU is more of a possibility than it coming out on the next-gen Xbox and Playstation. Bioware already released Mass Effect 3 for WiiU so I think it's a major possibilty that theyd do the same with DA3. Besides next-gen consoles haven't even been announced, everything about them and their release has just been rumors and speculation. Same goes for DA3 going to next-gen, it's just rumors, and if the rumors about it are true then i'd expect it to be released for both current-gen and next-gen consoles. That's more likely than just releasing it on next-gen.

[Emzamination]

ghostmessiah202 wrote...

If it is next-gen exclusive it will be a better game. Having to make the game work on current-gen (very, very old tech) requires putting limits on what they do. Removing these limits could make for a better game.

Less memory restrictions means more complex animations, which is always a good thing. 

[Steppenwolf]

ghostmessiah202 wrote...

If it is next-gen exclusive it will be a better game. Having to make the game work on current-gen (very, very old tech) requires putting limits on what they do. Removing these limits could make for a better game.

There's no guarantee that being on next-gen consoles would make the game better. Hell, most games that begin development on one gen and are ported to the next end up lousy. Look at the launch-window games of the 360 and PS3. Both included games that were supposed to be AAA titles for XBox and/or PS2 but ended up being duds on 360 and/or PS3. Bioware knows how to make games on the current gen of consoles. They haven't made any games for the next gen and I would prefer DA3 not be their experiment.

[JimboGee]

If current rumours are to be believed, Microsoft need to pull their finger out or it wont happen this year.

[ADelusiveMan]

I'll probably play it on PC, but I can imagine a couple of problems with it coming out on next gen consoles. The first coming to mind would be the save import.