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[garrusfan1]

 The breath scene was one of the biggest complaints cause people wanted a reunion or at least to have shep get out of the rubble. This still makes me angry cause it wouldn't have been hard to fix and instead they left it as is. Anyone else agree.


Also I realize the catalyst was the biggest complaint and wasn't removed but stick with the breath scene please

[David7204]

Gee, I have never heard this before on the BSN.

The fact that the existence of the Catalyst was one of the biggest complaints and quite a few people seem sure that removing the Catalyst automatically makes the endings great somehow demonstates that a lot of people have no clue what makes a good story and what doesn't.

Modifié par David7204, 02 janvier 2013 - 04:23 .

[garrusfan1]

David7204 wrote...

Gee, I have never heard this before on the BSN.

Gee I have never heard this before on the BSN either

[RocketManSR2]

Even overhearing voices of a rescue team finding Shepard would have helped. Unfortunately, Shepard will forever be dying in a pile of rubble with no help in sight. Thanks, BioWare.

[garrusfan1]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

Even overhearing voices of a rescue team finding Shepard would have helped. Unfortunately, Shepard will forever be dying in a pile of rubble with no help in sight. Thanks, BioWare.

Thank you though I like to think he lives it would be nice to see it or at least get what you said

[David7204]

Sion1138 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Gee, I have never heard this before on the BSN.

The fact that the existence of the Catalyst was one of the biggest complaints and quite a few people seem sure that removing the Catalyst automatically makes the endings great somehow demonstates that a lot of people have no clue what makes a good story and what doesn't.

I have heard people say it would be better without the Catalyst, but not that it would be great.

Also, you're an a-hole.

You would deny that? That far too many of the suggestions and complaints here are ridiculous?

[garrusfan1]

David I said please don't bring up the catalyst so why do you bring it up I was talking about the breath scene but I knew someone would say why not remove the catalyst.

[David7204]

They can't put in more content for the breathe scene without heavily implying that it's the right choice. And they're already on thin ice for making choices matter as it is. It would ****** off a lot of people who chose Control or Synthesis.

Modifié par David7204, 02 janvier 2013 - 04:36 .

[Natabre]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

Even overhearing voices of a rescue team finding Shepard would have helped. Unfortunately, Shepard will forever be dying in a pile of rubble with no help in sight. Thanks, BioWare.

I really hope that didn't happen!  But in a cutscene, Hackett was suprised to hear that Shepard made it to the Citadel. So I'm assuming Shepard had some kind of transponder on him like the councilors, so it's possible that they tracked down Shepard and...save him to have him reunite with LI and everyone!

[DANiiEL]

The biggest complain about the ending is that the whole ending is complete trash, all of it. Illusive Man pops up out of nowhere and all of a sudden got the ability to control humans, Shepard just happens to stand at a platform that can fly, NO BIG END BOSS FIGHT WITH HARBINGER, Starbrat, ABC endings, p*ssy squadmates abandon Shepard, Shepard dies like a wuss instead of like a hero, Starbrat, the whole united fleet abandoned Shepard, Shepard dies of the Crucible explosion but every other organic hit by it doesnt get harmed at all, Mass Relays must be destroyed, Starbrat. Well I shouldnt make a wall of how much the ending sucks but the right thing to do would have been change it completely instead of adding more to it.

Modifié par DANiiEL, 02 janvier 2013 - 04:48 .

[crimzontearz]

oh and always remember guys, as of now adding context = changing the ending


Yup...lovely

[deatharmonic]

David7204 wrote...

They can't put in more content for the breathe scene without heavily implying that it's the right choice. And they're already on thin ice for making choices matter as it is. It would ****** off a lot of people who chose Control or Synthesis.

meh, I disagree with the sentiment that shep living=right choice, and that's for each individual to decide. Just because there's a possiblity for shep to live it doesn't make it the right choice. The wider implications of each choice should dictate that. If there's a choice where no one dies at all and the reapers are gone forever, that is something which would invalidate the other choices.

Aside from that, I would find it fitting to have some of my sheps die and some live

[DANiiEL]

DANiiEL wrote...

The biggest complain about the ending is that the whole ending is complete trash, all of it. Illusive Man pops up out of nowhere and all of a sudden got the ability to control humans, Shepard just happens to stand at a platform that can fly, NO BIG END BOSS FIGHT WITH HARBINGER, Starbrat, ABC endings, p*ssy squadmates abandon Shepard, Shepard dies like a wuss instead of like a hero, Starbrat, the whole united fleet abandoned Shepard, Shepard dies of the Crucible explosion but every other organic hit by it doesnt get harmed at all, Mass Relays must be destroyed, Starbrat. Well I shouldnt make a wall of how much the ending sucks but the right thing to do would have been change it completely instead of adding more to it.

Oh I forgot, all your choices doesnt meen **** at the ending either.

Wut why did I get a new post when i edit
 
Also as a last one the fact that Hacket sayd ''This wasnt a victory by a single fleet, army or even a single species, if this war has thought us anything its that we are as strongest when we work together, and if we can stop our grievances long enough to stop something as powerfull as the Reapers, imagine what we can achieve now when they are defeated'' Really? They all fleed, Hackett even said the order himself ''The Cruicible blabla get the hell out of here'' None of them has any right to take honor of the victory and try to make it sound like they are the ones who stopped the Reapers cause the Reapers would have won if it wasnt for Shepard and Anderson. Damn bastards.

Modifié par DANiiEL, 02 janvier 2013 - 05:09 .

[RocketManSR2]

David7204 wrote...

They can't put in more content for the breathe scene without heavily implying that it's the right choice. And they're already on thin ice for making choices matter as it is. It would ****** off a lot of people who chose Control or Synthesis.

But having EDI gush about how great life will be after Synthesis in the EC was perfectly fine? Riiiiiight.

[David7204]

You mean like how Hackett 'gushes' about pretty much the same thing after Destroy?

[crimzontearz]

David7204 wrote...

They can't put in more content for the breathe scene without heavily implying that it's the right choice. And they're already on thin ice for making choices matter as it is. It would ****** off a lot of people who chose Control or Synthesis.

play DAO. The fact that the dark ritual or allowing alistar/loghain to slay the arch demon allows the warden to live does not mean they were the right choices at all.Truth is syhtnesis was Mac's pet ending and even with the vagueness bull**** 60+ percent of people according to the polls pick destroy already....and we could not have even more disparity could we amirite?

[Ithurael]

Catalyst on Citadel the entire time > Breath Scene

A reunion would mean little with the conclusion to the central conflict still tied up in nonsense, contrivances, and a blatant retcon.

but hey, if it helps why the fudge not?

[jfeth713]

garrusfan1 wrote...

 The breath scene was one of the biggest complaints cause people wanted a reunion or at least to have shep get out of the rubble. This still makes me angry cause it wouldn't have been hard to fix and instead they left it as is. Anyone else agree.


Also I realize the catalyst was the biggest complaint and wasn't removed but stick with the breath scene please

The biggest complaint about the scene pre-ec was that it was only achievable by playing MP.

[David7204]

Ithurael wrote...

Catalyst on Citadel the entire time > Breath Scene

A reunion would mean little with the conclusion to the central conflict still tied up in nonsense, contrivances, and a blatant retcon.

but hey, if it helps why the fudge not?

What 'retcon' is that?

[TheJediSaint]

Bioware clearly wanted to keep the ending open. The problem is that Bioware is not very good at crafting open endings. They took inspiration from the Matrix when they should've taken inspiration from Inception.

[ZombieGambit]

That's assuming that that wasn't Shepard's dying breath or that he was in a fit enough condition to remain alive for much longer, let alone to be meeting and greeting with the Normandy crew right after being blown up and most likely blasted off into space to crash land on the surface of earth.

[Ithurael]

David7204 wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

Catalyst on Citadel the entire time > Breath Scene

A reunion would mean little with the conclusion to the central conflict still tied up in nonsense, contrivances, and a blatant retcon.

but hey, if it helps why the fudge not?

What 'retcon' is that?

Starkid

Define: Retcon
Clicky
"is the alteration of previously established facts in a fictional work."

"We are each a nation, independent. Free of all weakness" - Soveriegn
define: independent
adj "Free from outside control; not depending on another's authority"

"I control the reapers, they are my solution" - Starkid

but that is small stuff compared to the big fish here:
Soveriegn needing Saren to open the citadel arms when Starkid on the citadel with the power to control the citadel arms. (see control ending)

No in game lore or explanation as to why Sovy needed Saren when that was there the ENTIRE TIME!

If you want to try and argue 'prothean sabatoge' remember one thing, that the sabatoge (as explained by the lore) only affected the keepers ability to trigger the relay to dark space.

I have seen other explanations (using heavy amount of headcanon) saying that "Well the reason he didn't open the citadel was because he didn't want to thus why the citadel didn't open". Others have said it is blatantly implied. I have yet to see where. A blantant implication (or inference) is akin to this:
Starkid controls all reapers
Harbinger is a reaper
Starkid controls Harbinger

If anyone can provide an in game in universe explanation (no headcanon or speculation) for why starkid (as the reaper overmind with control over the citadel arms) wouldn't just open the citadel during ME1 let me know I would be overjoyed. The only logical explanation I have got is that they added the character for this game only (not even conceiving of him in ME1 or 2) to wrap up the plot.

[jfeth713]

ZombieGambit wrote...

That's assuming that that wasn't Shepard's dying breath or that he was in a fit enough condition to remain alive for much longer, let alone to be meeting and greeting with the Normandy crew right after being blown up and most likely blasted off into space to crash land on the surface of earth.

You don't inhale when you die.

[Tomwew]

jfeth713 wrote...

ZombieGambit wrote...

That's assuming that that wasn't Shepard's dying breath or that he was in a fit enough condition to remain alive for much longer, let alone to be meeting and greeting with the Normandy crew right after being blown up and most likely blasted off into space to crash land on the surface of earth.

You don't inhale when you die.

miles dyson disagrees