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[Ultranovae]

Just make synthesis not be the happy rainbows and cotton candy clouds that the slides in the EC makes you think it is. Make it so that there's still inter-species conflict, and the reapers are pretty much detached from the whole mess.
Aside form that, I see some interesting gameplay possibilities from half synthetic half organic beings. You could have on the fly upgrades and customization, get exp and add a mod that gives you geth abilities and yet, you can still use biotics.
I'm the person who thinks "why would you chose anything but synthesis" I mean, it is the best out come for everyone. But from a story point of view, I think only destroy and control offer a good story to follow up, and that of course would imply something more dangerous than the reapers come and kick their asses.

[Haargel]

They probably canonize something. That no ending is canon is BS.

If Shepard died at the end of ME2, it wasn´t considered canon. He has to survive.

There you go.

[Blade8971]

ME4 must be set as a sequel. I'm not interested in playing a full blown game about something that occurs in the past. That being said, there should be opportunity to relive a past event in the ME universe as a DLC like that of Fallout 3 - Operation Anchorage (Alaska)

[pmac_tk421]

I would hate it, especially since it would probably be destroy. I would prefer a prequel to a sequel. Or maybe they could have a stroy concurrent with ME3's story and you would import your choices to dictate how the story would flow.

Modifié par pmac_tk421, 04 janvier 2013 - 03:17 .

[Malanek]

If they don't cannonise an ending it will either be a complete mess or the actual consequences will be trivialised to such a point you can barely recognise the difference in spite of everything having completely different molecular structures depending on the import.

You are not playing Shepard any longer. ME4 should be one possible future. They can keep a lot of the detail vague. If you thought your ending left the world in a better state that is your reward. You get to see what your Shepard avoided inflicting on the galaxy.

[nevar00]

People will flip **** again about the "illusion" of choice being thrown in the blender once and for all.

Oh but I'd love to see them canonize Synthesis (specially since they seem to have a hard on for that one). The reaction would be glorious.

[daftPirate]

Arcian wrote...

Oh please stuff that hivemind BS somewhere else. Meaningful choice and consequence have been marketed as core features of the game since it was announced. It is well within my goddamn rights to expect something that has been promised. You see, people just doesn't hold out their hands and take whatever crap is given. Only slaves and fools do.

And you'd still be expecting two to three more games worth of 'meaningful' content for all the choices that you thought were inadequately handled. Its an unrealistic expectation. And while numerous things in life would warrant anger, rejection and uprising if there was something certifiably  wrong with them, the hobby outlet of gaming is not one of them.

[B.Shep]

Lots of rage if is Synthesis, less rage if is Destroy. Also i think we can suppose Refuse is non canon just like the ending where Shepard died in ME2.

But that all will depend on them really doing a sequel on the next game...

[HeliMedic]

If Bioware can make a ME4 without the interference of an unhealthy deadline by EA, we will all be fine.
I really, really hope EA has learned from ME3 and that they understand that if they want ME4 to sell as good as the last one, they need to give Bioware all the time they need. (So they can work out all 4 endings and let you import your me3 save game... even if it's to make the statue of Shepard look like your Shepard)

[Daiyus]

I think the only hope would be to go so far into the future it trivializes the choice (I'm thinking 10,000 years plus). Synthesis could have been "bred out" as it didn't work as well as originally thought, making everyone separate again. Control/Destroy could be information lost in time, and a topic of debate throughout the game. Nobody knows what happened, but needless to say they aren't around anymore. Were they destroyed, or did Shepard just leave the Galaxy? Theoretically you could do a "dragon-break" type scenario like the ending of Daggerfall: It all happened.

Sure it's ruins the whole "your choices matter" thing to lots of people, but do you really expect three games in one based solely on one choice of the previous trilogy? That's just plain unrealistic. Could some choices in the Shepard Trilogy have been handled better? Sure, but overall I felt I was making differences. Just having one character or the other is major enough for me. The feel of ME3 whether you have Wrex or not is very different to me. Being honest, most decisions won't realistically have far reaching consequences, not across an entire galaxy. Think of how insignificant most of your everyday choices are.

[Major Alenko]

Lol since when has doing the thing you set out to do from the beginning of the trilogy... destroy the reapers become a renegade act... OP I think you're getting a bit confused with the 'light' display... it means nothing... control isn't paragon, it's like the opposite lol If they choose that space magic bullcrap Synthesis... then I'm outt... which I think could happen as they were so obsessed with making that their 'perfect ending' I'm thinking they could do a Star Trek and create a parallel universe... hell I wouldn't mind a game set after the 4th ending... the one if you shot the kid... that would be something wouldn't it...

[Elloria]

I think the reason the endings (originally, I can't comment on the EC endings, not seen them yet) were so similar is that when it comes to future instalments of the series, they'd easily be able to carry over plot-wise with people remembering how "Shepard made the ultimate sacrifice" etc.
If they went to more drastic extremes, like having all of humanity harvested for one ending and... Oh, I dunno, obliterating the Citadel in another, it would be too difficult to make all that flow with a story set after the Reaper invasion and would then be forced to pick a canonical ending which people would only whine about. This way, people can get there 'choice; and it doesn't have any severely dire ramifications to how the next game is made because for them to have to program in so many drastic/exponentially different outcomes that people obviously wanted is way too much to ask for and almost impossible in terms of the loosely set narrative Mass Effect has always presented us.

[PXXL]

Kanaris wrote...

PXXL wrote...

what if ME4 takes place before the trilogy?

Fans have made it quite clear they DO NOT want a Prequal to the ME games so if they do make it a Prequal then ME4 will probably be the worst selling ME game to date.

if by fans you mean BSN then you might be right. I would like to see a prequel.

[Brother Takka]

But bioware already did that. If your shep died in ME2 in ME3 you still play as him. You can't import any of your choices. So you play the default bioware choices. If they did it would be destroy as it would be the easiest to do and would leave them with the most room to play with. At least that's what I think.

[iTallaNT]

....The blue isn't paragon, not when The Illusive Man who has been the model of renegade choices throughout the series was there while Anderson, the model for all paragon choices, was at the destroy option. The colors don't mean anything, they are just a mind a game. Not to mention the logic behind all the other endings other then destroy don't make any sense what so ever.

But yes, if they do decide to canonize (much to our disdain) the ending then the destroy option is the most likely choice because it's the only ending where Shepard wakes up.

[Noobwood]

Shepard gone, Normandy gone, EDI gone, Geth's gone, Citadel gone, Mass relays gone, Most civilians gone, Infrastuctutres gone, Earth become a new "home" for multiple spicies cuz all fleets will be locked into Solar system.
That's happens, nothing more.

[Zeroth Angel]

They should canonize Synthesis.
Just so I could see this place burn.

[I_Jedi]

PXXL wrote...

Kanaris wrote...

PXXL wrote...

what if ME4 takes place before the trilogy?

Fans have made it quite clear they DO NOT want a Prequal to the ME games so if they do make it a Prequal then ME4 will probably be the worst selling ME game to date.

if by fans you mean BSN then you might be right. I would like to see a prequel.

I will only tolerate an RTS prequel. An RPG prequel would make ME1 very much an "alternate timeline".

[jeansplice]

i'm guessing destroy will be the way to go, it's what you have been trying to do for all those years anyway. who knows, the quarians might re build the geth

[Zeroth Angel]

Double post.

Modifié par Wimbini, 04 janvier 2013 - 08:58 .

[geroni24]

i wound not rage (that much if it was beetween the refusal adn the extinction, imagine it

[geroni24]

Noobwood wrote...

Shepard gone, Normandy gone, EDI gone, Geth's gone, Citadel gone, Mass relays gone, Most civilians gone, Infrastuctutres gone, Earth become a new "home" for multiple spicies cuz all fleets will be locked into Solar system.
That's happens, nothing more.

You have seen EC, right?

[Shinobu]

I'd be ok with canonizing endings as long as Bioware announced UP FRONT that each ending would get its own game. I'd prefer successful refuse, but I'd be willing to play a game based on Synthesis as long as I knew "my" preferred ending would eventually show up.

Ending choice should matter.

[majinstrings]

A canon ending I would want would have the Reapers gone and all races (including the Geth) alive...
NO SYNTHESIS!!!

[I_Jedi]

majinstrings wrote...

A canon ending I would want would have the Reapers gone and all races (including the Geth) alive...
NO SYNTHESIS!!!

You get that ending by hijacking a Star Wars ship and massacring the Reapers instead.