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[upinya slayin]

ryoldschool wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

depends. nothing wrong with it if you can hold your own. plus throw on a level X harrier AR amp 3, warp rounds 4, and cyclonic 4 and some armored compartments and your level 1 will be the highest damage output in the game with more shields then their level 20s.

all depends on your skill and consumables used, but there is nothing wrong with doing so

Really?
A lvl 1 Destroyer with the setup you mentioned compared to a lvl 20 Destroyer with Harrier IV, AP rounds II, AR Amp II, Cyclonic II.

I'd take the lvl 20.

Level 20 with said gear
http://narida.pytalh...saultRifleAmp5/
Health: 850
Shields: 2250
Weapon Damage: 185.2

Level 1 with max gear
http://narida.pytalh...saultRifleAmp5/
Health: 500
Shields: 2500
Weapon Damage: 187.78

Difference is in powers not the basic stuff

That said, if someone is doing level 1s in gold (and are capable of doing so, not just tryingto leech), they should host or else once lag hits it ends up being very bad

I have only ever seen one guy with a level one use that kind of equipment on a gold match.   He had a PPR X and was a friend of one of mine.   We played about five gold matches in a row and he promoted after the third match.   He scored over 100K every time and after he promoted we just had to revive him a lot more.

In a PUG I have never seen a level one character have a level X weapon and put on the best equipment, so my policy in PUG is to just leave and let somebody else take the chance that the guy is good or not.


In answer to the TO - yes its bad form to take a level one into a PUG Gold match.

are you saying its bad form to ever take one? or are you saying its ok if you are geared up (level 4 ammo , level 3 amps, UR at level X)

cause it seems you are saying you would be ok with it if they did use high amps but they don't so you are not ok? Just asking for clarification?

[codsquallic]

I did do a silver match in the end, and it wasn't really a big deal in terms of promoting the character. Silver first, Gold second I guess.

It's interesting to see a number of comments about the lack of health/shields, as a lot of people build characters without adding much, if anything, to health. A 6/6/6/6/0 for a Demolisher isn't uncommon after all.

[oO Stryfe Oo]

spudspot wrote...

If you can't even be bothered with at least playing one or two silver or bronze before, then I probably won't give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you do not know what you're doing.

With friends it's no problem.

This. It's not impossible for you to be good enough to survive with a level one kit on Gold, but more than likely, I'd end up booting your ass before finding out.

[upinya slayin]

codsquallic wrote...

I did do a silver match in the end, and it wasn't really a big deal in terms of promoting the character. Silver first, Gold second I guess.

It's interesting to see a number of comments about the lack of health/shields, as a lot of people build characters without adding much, if anything, to health. A 6/6/6/6/0 for a Demolisher isn't uncommon after all.

true but them nades. whats a demolisher gonna do w/o nades lol
when i run a level 1 which has been a while btw i do it with high amps and pick a character with high base shields. running a level 1 krogan or batarian is far from squishy

[red nose]

Air Quotes wrote...

It's rude and disrespectful to use a lvl 1.

I don't care how good you are or may be. I'm kicking you. In PUG's

[tMc Tallgeese]

There is a player whom I regularly play with who doesn't fret when I take a level one character. Of course, the two of us watch one another's backs pretty well; except when there are abominations, then we end up laughing for a while as we kill each other and anyone else foolish enough to play with us. I'm sure if she read this comment she'd agree.

[ryoldschool]

upinya slayin wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

depends. nothing wrong with it if you can hold your own. plus throw on a level X harrier AR amp 3, warp rounds 4, and cyclonic 4 and some armored compartments and your level 1 will be the highest damage output in the game with more shields then their level 20s.

all depends on your skill and consumables used, but there is nothing wrong with doing so

Really?
A lvl 1 Destroyer with the setup you mentioned compared to a lvl 20 Destroyer with Harrier IV, AP rounds II, AR Amp II, Cyclonic II.

I'd take the lvl 20.

Level 20 with said gear
http://narida.pytalh...saultRifleAmp5/
Health: 850
Shields: 2250
Weapon Damage: 185.2

Level 1 with max gear
http://narida.pytalh...saultRifleAmp5/
Health: 500
Shields: 2500
Weapon Damage: 187.78

Difference is in powers not the basic stuff

That said, if someone is doing level 1s in gold (and are capable of doing so, not just tryingto leech), they should host or else once lag hits it ends up being very bad

I have only ever seen one guy with a level one use that kind of equipment on a gold match.   He had a PPR X and was a friend of one of mine.   We played about five gold matches in a row and he promoted after the third match.   He scored over 100K every time and after he promoted we just had to revive him a lot more.

In a PUG I have never seen a level one character have a level X weapon and put on the best equipment, so my policy in PUG is to just leave and let somebody else take the chance that the guy is good or not.


In answer to the TO - yes its bad form to take a level one into a PUG Gold match.

are you saying its bad form to ever take one? or are you saying its ok if you are geared up (level 4 ammo , level 3 amps, UR at level X)

cause it seems you are saying you would be ok with it if they did use high amps but they don't so you are not ok? Just asking for clarification?

I'm saying its bad form to take a level one into a PUG.   Had I not been playing with that dude who had a level one I would have left that lobby.

I was also saying that I've never seen anyone other that that guy using a level one character with level 3 and 4 consumables.  Usually folk with level one characters ( on Gold ) don't put on consumables at all.

[upinya slayin]

tMc Tallgeese wrote...

There is a player whom I regularly play with who doesn't fret when I take a level one character. Of course, the two of us watch one another's backs pretty well; except when there are abominations, then we end up laughing for a while as we kill each other and anyone else foolish enough to play with us. I'm sure if she read this comment she'd agree.

whats the point of having friends if you cna't blow up PAs on them

[upinya slayin]

ryoldschool wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

depends. nothing wrong with it if you can hold your own. plus throw on a level X harrier AR amp 3, warp rounds 4, and cyclonic 4 and some armored compartments and your level 1 will be the highest damage output in the game with more shields then their level 20s.

all depends on your skill and consumables used, but there is nothing wrong with doing so

Really?
A lvl 1 Destroyer with the setup you mentioned compared to a lvl 20 Destroyer with Harrier IV, AP rounds II, AR Amp II, Cyclonic II.

I'd take the lvl 20.

Level 20 with said gear
http://narida.pytalh...saultRifleAmp5/
Health: 850
Shields: 2250
Weapon Damage: 185.2

Level 1 with max gear
http://narida.pytalh...saultRifleAmp5/
Health: 500
Shields: 2500
Weapon Damage: 187.78

Difference is in powers not the basic stuff

That said, if someone is doing level 1s in gold (and are capable of doing so, not just tryingto leech), they should host or else once lag hits it ends up being very bad

I have only ever seen one guy with a level one use that kind of equipment on a gold match.   He had a PPR X and was a friend of one of mine.   We played about five gold matches in a row and he promoted after the third match.   He scored over 100K every time and after he promoted we just had to revive him a lot more.

In a PUG I have never seen a level one character have a level X weapon and put on the best equipment, so my policy in PUG is to just leave and let somebody else take the chance that the guy is good or not.


In answer to the TO - yes its bad form to take a level one into a PUG Gold match.

are you saying its bad form to ever take one? or are you saying its ok if you are geared up (level 4 ammo , level 3 amps, UR at level X)

cause it seems you are saying you would be ok with it if they did use high amps but they don't so you are not ok? Just asking for clarification?

I'm saying its bad form to take a level one into a PUG.   Had I not been playing with that dude who had a level one I would have left that lobby.

I was also saying that I've never seen anyone other that that guy using a level one character with level 3 and 4 consumables.  Usually folk with level one characters ( on Gold ) don't put on consumables at all.

question is, if they did use high level consumables would you play or leave the lobby?

or even better if you had to kick one player
1 is a level 20 SI with a disciple 3 and level 1 consumables
1 is a level 1 drelldept with a harrier X and level 3/4 consuimbales

who would you kick?

[UKStory135]

ryoldschool wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

depends. nothing wrong with it if you can hold your own. plus throw on a level X harrier AR amp 3, warp rounds 4, and cyclonic 4 and some armored compartments and your level 1 will be the highest damage output in the game with more shields then their level 20s.

all depends on your skill and consumables used, but there is nothing wrong with doing so

Really?
A lvl 1 Destroyer with the setup you mentioned compared to a lvl 20 Destroyer with Harrier IV, AP rounds II, AR Amp II, Cyclonic II.

I'd take the lvl 20.

Level 20 with said gear
http://narida.pytalh...saultRifleAmp5/
Health: 850
Shields: 2250
Weapon Damage: 185.2

Level 1 with max gear
http://narida.pytalh...saultRifleAmp5/
Health: 500
Shields: 2500
Weapon Damage: 187.78

Difference is in powers not the basic stuff

That said, if someone is doing level 1s in gold (and are capable of doing so, not just tryingto leech), they should host or else once lag hits it ends up being very bad

I have only ever seen one guy with a level one use that kind of equipment on a gold match.   He had a PPR X and was a friend of one of mine.   We played about five gold matches in a row and he promoted after the third match.   He scored over 100K every time and after he promoted we just had to revive him a lot more.

In a PUG I have never seen a level one character have a level X weapon and put on the best equipment, so my policy in PUG is to just leave and let somebody else take the chance that the guy is good or not.


In answer to the TO - yes its bad form to take a level one into a PUG Gold match.

are you saying its bad form to ever take one? or are you saying its ok if you are geared up (level 4 ammo , level 3 amps, UR at level X)

cause it seems you are saying you would be ok with it if they did use high amps but they don't so you are not ok? Just asking for clarification?

I'm saying its bad form to take a level one into a PUG.   Had I not been playing with that dude who had a level one I would have left that lobby.

I was also saying that I've never seen anyone other that that guy using a level one character with level 3 and 4 consumables.  Usually folk with level one characters ( on Gold ) don't put on consumables at all.

Most of our mutual friends would be alright with a level I guy.

[lazysundae]

tMc Tallgeese wrote...

There is a player whom I regularly play with who doesn't fret when I take a level one character. Of course, the two of us watch one another's backs pretty well; except when there are abominations, then we end up laughing for a while as we kill each other and anyone else foolish enough to play with us. I'm sure if she read this comment she'd agree.

I probably do the worst job of watching your back when you bring a level 1, because that prompts me to bring my unstoppable pink Broguard and play like an idiot. 

[udinbak4]

I completely understand lvl 1 gold players. I geth it, you want to challenge yourself, and that's ok. But to do this, you really need to waste consumables. Consumables you can use in platinum matches. Don't waste Cyclonic IV in a pug match just so you can level up your character. But like I said, if you want to prove yourself that you can do such a thing, it's fine by me I will not kick you from a gold match. Platinum? Yes, bcs I neeed credz, no time 4 xperimnz and e-peen strkng.

[SofaJockey]

Yes, Going Gold Level 1 is a touch rude and arrogant - granted there are many who will hold their own.

When you are not known by others it's hard to judge whether you are highly-skilled or want to be carried.

When I want to play a level 1 on either Silver or Gold, I create a Public match and go straight in solo, so that others will join later. So long as I don't suck, the case will be made by the time we are back in the lobby.

[Red Panda]

Air Quotes wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

If you got skill and a Claymore/Harrier/ Doom Cannon 9000 at X.
You may stay.

 

How can know he's got skill before playing? 

SMG mastery banner

[reioni]

idk I don't usually kick because often I am pleasantly surprised but today when a level 4 drell adept n7 rank 27 joined the gold lobby with no gear, I kicked. I probably wouldn't kick u if u had gear on (because you will more then likely be making an effort or you wouldn't be wasting gear) but in all fairness if ppl don't know you and haven't played with you b4 they have no way of knowing if you're leeching or skilled. 90% of the time ppl r leeching. you cant blame them for freaking out too much.

Modifié par reioni, 04 janvier 2013 - 12:31 .

[ryoldschool]

upinya slayin wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

depends. nothing wrong with it if you can hold your own. plus throw on a level X harrier AR amp 3, warp rounds 4, and cyclonic 4 and some armored compartments and your level 1 will be the highest damage output in the game with more shields then their level 20s.

all depends on your skill and consumables used, but there is nothing wrong with doing so

Really?
A lvl 1 Destroyer with the setup you mentioned compared to a lvl 20 Destroyer with Harrier IV, AP rounds II, AR Amp II, Cyclonic II.

I'd take the lvl 20.

Level 20 with said gear
http://narida.pytalh...saultRifleAmp5/
Health: 850
Shields: 2250
Weapon Damage: 185.2

Level 1 with max gear
http://narida.pytalh...saultRifleAmp5/
Health: 500
Shields: 2500
Weapon Damage: 187.78

Difference is in powers not the basic stuff

That said, if someone is doing level 1s in gold (and are capable of doing so, not just tryingto leech), they should host or else once lag hits it ends up being very bad

I have only ever seen one guy with a level one use that kind of equipment on a gold match.   He had a PPR X and was a friend of one of mine.   We played about five gold matches in a row and he promoted after the third match.   He scored over 100K every time and after he promoted we just had to revive him a lot more.

In a PUG I have never seen a level one character have a level X weapon and put on the best equipment, so my policy in PUG is to just leave and let somebody else take the chance that the guy is good or not.


In answer to the TO - yes its bad form to take a level one into a PUG Gold match.

are you saying its bad form to ever take one? or are you saying its ok if you are geared up (level 4 ammo , level 3 amps, UR at level X)

cause it seems you are saying you would be ok with it if they did use high amps but they don't so you are not ok? Just asking for clarification?

I'm saying its bad form to take a level one into a PUG.   Had I not been playing with that dude who had a level one I would have left that lobby.

I was also saying that I've never seen anyone other that that guy using a level one character with level 3 and 4 consumables.  Usually folk with level one characters ( on Gold ) don't put on consumables at all.

question is, if they did use high level consumables would you play or leave the lobby?

or even better if you had to kick one player
1 is a level 20 SI with a disciple 3 and level 1 consumables
1 is a level 1 drelldept with a harrier X and level 3/4 consuimbales

who would you kick?

Well, I have to give the level one guy with Harrier X and level 3/4 consumables props, and if the rest of the lobby was strong I would stay.   Also if the rest of the lobby was strong I would stay in the lobby with the Si.  If they were in the same lobby, I would probably put on my Asari Infiltrator with armored compartments for insurance.

As far as kicking, I only vote to kick if I am hosting because I am playing with friends, and then once again either of those two guys you proposed would be fine.

I just don't like to kick anyone.    Usually when playing with friends and we picked up a random for a match, when another friend joins our party, when the match is finished we will just quit the lobby and form a new, private lobby.

[Grundle47]

it's iffy at best to be using a lvl 1. If you're great with them that's fine but you have to expect a level of dissatisfaction with your choice by your fellow team members. challenge/N7 rating does help determine if a person has skill and a good weapon/gear also helps. Also, it depends on what they're playing. I'd probably be ok with a lvl 1 Demolisher since it's a much less power-dependant class (not that their powers are bad, just that they can survive without them). Then again, a lvl 1 adept or maybe vanguard I'd be a little uneasy about.

[upinya slayin]

ryoldschool wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

depends. nothing wrong with it if you can hold your own. plus throw on a level X harrier AR amp 3, warp rounds 4, and cyclonic 4 and some armored compartments and your level 1 will be the highest damage output in the game with more shields then their level 20s.

all depends on your skill and consumables used, but there is nothing wrong with doing so

Really?
A lvl 1 Destroyer with the setup you mentioned compared to a lvl 20 Destroyer with Harrier IV, AP rounds II, AR Amp II, Cyclonic II.

I'd take the lvl 20.

Level 20 with said gear
http://narida.pytalh...saultRifleAmp5/
Health: 850
Shields: 2250
Weapon Damage: 185.2

Level 1 with max gear
http://narida.pytalh...saultRifleAmp5/
Health: 500
Shields: 2500
Weapon Damage: 187.78

Difference is in powers not the basic stuff

That said, if someone is doing level 1s in gold (and are capable of doing so, not just tryingto leech), they should host or else once lag hits it ends up being very bad

I have only ever seen one guy with a level one use that kind of equipment on a gold match.   He had a PPR X and was a friend of one of mine.   We played about five gold matches in a row and he promoted after the third match.   He scored over 100K every time and after he promoted we just had to revive him a lot more.

In a PUG I have never seen a level one character have a level X weapon and put on the best equipment, so my policy in PUG is to just leave and let somebody else take the chance that the guy is good or not.


In answer to the TO - yes its bad form to take a level one into a PUG Gold match.

are you saying its bad form to ever take one? or are you saying its ok if you are geared up (level 4 ammo , level 3 amps, UR at level X)

cause it seems you are saying you would be ok with it if they did use high amps but they don't so you are not ok? Just asking for clarification?

I'm saying its bad form to take a level one into a PUG.   Had I not been playing with that dude who had a level one I would have left that lobby.

I was also saying that I've never seen anyone other that that guy using a level one character with level 3 and 4 consumables.  Usually folk with level one characters ( on Gold ) don't put on consumables at all.

question is, if they did use high level consumables would you play or leave the lobby?

or even better if you had to kick one player
1 is a level 20 SI with a disciple 3 and level 1 consumables
1 is a level 1 drelldept with a harrier X and level 3/4 consuimbales

who would you kick?

Well, I have to give the level one guy with Harrier X and level 3/4 consumables props, and if the rest of the lobby was strong I would stay.   Also if the rest of the lobby was strong I would stay in the lobby with the Si.  If they were in the same lobby, I would probably put on my Asari Infiltrator with armored compartments for insurance.

As far as kicking, I only vote to kick if I am hosting because I am playing with friends, and then once again either of those two guys you proposed would be fine.

I just don't like to kick anyone.    Usually when playing with friends and we picked up a random for a match, when another friend joins our party, when the match is finished we will just quit the lobby and form a new, private lobby.

lol when i have to do that we'll nuke kick (all 3 at the same time" but i'll send him a mesage telling him it was to make room for a friend. it alievates the awkard 2 kicks on a guy waiting to see if he gets a 3rd moment. or sometimes if they have a mic switch over to gamechat and ask them to leave cause we need room for a friend that just got on. I've never had an issue with anyone being a jerk over it which is nice.

also i don't kick people if i have at least 1 other good friend with me it doens't make any difference. if i was all by myself with 3 bad loudout randoms i'll just take one of my fav classes like an MQE so if i have to solo every wave it won't take forever lol

[palmof40sorrows]

doozerdude wrote...

Yes, I kick level 1s

Afraid they'll outclass you? I myself don't feel comfortable rocking a level 1 in Gold, but I've played with players that can, and their loadouts spoke to their abilities before the game started.

A level 1 with avenger and katana is different than a level 1 with a talon V (or whathaveyou) plus gear and consumables equipped.

[cronshaw]

Everyone who is saying it is possible to do well with a level one in gold is missing the point.
Sure it is, but in a PUG nobody knows nobody.
A little analogy:
if a stranger with an apple and a crossbow came up to you on the street and said
"Hey let me shoot this apple off your head"
would you let him?
Probably not

Modifié par modok8, 04 janvier 2013 - 03:04 .

[nuh1]

If good heavy weapon levels and skill
   {
   Ignore power cooldowns and bring heavy weapons and level 3/4 equipment
   }
Else
   {
   Play a quick silver to level a bit
   }
  

[Shepard VI]

Been doing Level 1 Gold games since April.

I get away with it a hell of a lot more. Especially if I have my Black Widow X equipped. But I still occasionally come across someone that thinks I've kicked their infant child so they demand satisfaction.

[ladyvader]

I don't even like using a level 1 character on bronze let alone gold. I've been working in the N7 mastery badge 8 more promotions to go and I'm backing off on promoting so much.

1 character card from a 99k credit pack bumps a level 1 character to level 8.

[Titus Thongger]

it's a little rude because I don't have an indicator of your skill level or commitment to the game.

If you put on high level URs and a lot of equipment, I'll usually take you along though. I won't be too pleased but I won't kick either.

[Vilyn117]

Only if youre not using a really good gun. If anybody is using a really good gun on a level 1 idc, the gun will carry them.