LobselVith8 wrote...
In which the Keeper conceded to the ruling of the elders who disagreed with the union.
Autocrats usually don't have autorithy over citizens of other nations which doesn't stop them from being autocrats because of the power they exert over their own.
Why is this so hard to understand?
As I said, we don't have an example of the Keeper overriding the ruling of the other elders of a clan.
Perhaps not but we have numerous examples of self imposed exiles; one of them undertaken by an elder; due to the lack of oversight over the decisions of the Keeper.
Some elves sided with Velanna to retaliate against the humans for what they did, as she explains to the Warden-Commander; as I said before, we only encounter two clans.
You encouter the rest on the road.
And the humans hadn't done anything. Sure, they burned some wood but I assume they asked their landowner permission beforehand so, it's their right.
Duncan didn't ask the Sabrae clan to lend their aid against the Blight.
And here I tought it was something no rational person would contest.
Keeper Zathrian is familiar with the treaty (despite it being ancient), as are Lord Harrowmont and Prince Bhelen of the Great Thaig of Orzammar. The treaty obligated them to lend The Warden aid against the Blight.
The treaty only obligates someone in so far as that person will regret not upholding it.
What vengeful measures could the Grey Wardens; all two of them in Ferelden; could enact had these people just told them to get stuffed?
They needed help and were willing to pay for it with their own. Bottom Line.
Zathrian honored the treaty the elves had with the Wardens; the fact that the clan sought aid from other clans to aid the Wardens against the Blight demonstrates that stopping the darkspawn from destroying all of Thedas isn't an issue that any rational person would contest.
That the darkspawn should be destroyed is something everyone agrees. However, that doesn't mean everyone is just going to put aside personal interests and follow the Grey Wardens into battles.
A nomadic people with a burning hate for all humans choosing to stay and fight rather than pack backs and move to friendlier pastures? That's a hard sell.
Yet Velanna and the people who agreed with her defected from her clan, while Merrill followed her own course of action. Many in the clan may have agreed with Marethari simply because she trusted her, but you can make the same case for the moiety crew who follow The Warden or the Champion - the men and women who followed them did so because they trusted their leader's judgement.
But usually there are rules and safeguards in place should the leader prove to be a dolt such as Marethari did when she placed Merril above the clan which many elves seemed to recognize.
But we don't see any from dalish society.
It would be just as illogical to assume that informing Cullen about Anders' plans against the Chantry would lead to Cullen doing nothing about the situation, but that's precisely what happens if rivalry Hawke informs the Knight-Captain about what Anders (who is standing next to Hawke) is plotting.
If a real life person does something stupid, that doesn't mean the entire world is going to follow suit.
Likewise, just because gameplay forced Cullen to do something illogical; trust me, when Meredith said Anders' friendship with the champion protected him, I wanted to scream "He is not my friend! He is a raving lunatic and a menace to everyone around him. Please Tranquilize him, I'm begging you!"; it doesn't mean we should just assume the chief crafter would also do something illogical such as abandoning his people rather than present his point of view to Marethari.
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