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Are Garrus and Liara the ideal squad mates of the series?


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StayFrosty05 wrote...

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StayFrosty05 wrote...

Garrus, Thane, Kasumi, James, Legion, Kaidan, Zaeed are the best squadmates I have had....Ashley with Black Widow as runner up.

James is annoying some times and isn't it ironic how Kasumi who is a thief is actually a really good squademate even though she really shouldn't be


I adore James personally...his such an insobordinate sh*thead and I say that in an endearing manner.....^_^....Shep needed some grounding.

As for Kasumi...I know right....lol...:lol:....in all fairness, no matter how much I love her, she did not belong on a 'Death Squad'....but she did kick serious *ss....:D

its good to see someone else likes Vega as a character. He definitely didnt deserve all the hate and "Jersey Shore" stereotypes he got before the game released. He is downright hilarious. He's a tool. But hilarious nonetheless. (And we all have atleast one friend that fits that bill)

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Stay frosty yeah that always was kinda funny to me that someone who never fights is a great squademate. Then again jack was advertised as the ultimate bada** and her powers suck so.

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Mcfly and stay frosty I don't hate James he actually grew on me. That said sometimes he gets on my nerves but he is cool for the most part. Javik is the character that annoys the f*** out of me not James.

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The mandatory squadmates are always going to get the most flak. It was true with Miranda in ME 2 and it's true with Liara, James and EDI now.

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David7204 wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Mihait wrote...

I tend to go with Garrus + Tali nowadays. Garrus is pure gold with his lines, and Tali is love.

Who ever wrote garrus lines in ME2 and ME3 did an AMAZING job 


Mac Walters in ME 2.


Walters was his writer in ME1 I think, not sure who it was in ME2 (Garrus is one of the few characters who changed writers each game, while other characters had the same writer throughout)

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Mcfly that side mission was pretty good but I like how he got more laid back or at least less strict then he was in ME1. Also I know the side mission your talking about was in ME1

I like his character growth a lot. I actually think Garrus and Liara have the most character growth in the series. The difference for me is that I was turned off about the change in Liara. The reason I gravitated to her in the first place was because she was so naive yet curious. That changed drastically.

Garrus turned from someone that was anxious to make a difference, to someone that had experienced it and got used to it. And became a straight up boss. I feel like Shep and Garrus are the ultimate tag team. I hold them right up there with Chief and Cortana.

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TheWerdna wrote...

Walters was his writer in ME1 I think, not sure who it was in ME2 (Garrus is one of the few characters who changed writers each game, while other characters had the same writer throughout)


To be frank, Thane changed writers too.

Miranda also changed writers.

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David7204 wrote...

The mandatory squadmates are always going to get the most flak. It was true with Miranda in ME 2 and it's true with Liara, James and EDI now.

Liara gets slammed since it is apparently a fad now a dumb fad in my opinion. While I like James people (some at least) hate him since he replaced what should have been a krogan squadmate and EDI was ridiculous in ME3 with that body I loved her in ME2 and ME3 just that body was stupid.

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For my sentinel Shepard (my "canon" Shepard, Saemus) Garrus is always with me. I rotate the second squadmate depending on what I feel like or which character I feel most attached to at the moment. In ME1, it was Garrus and Kaidan, always. In 2, it's Garrus, and then Thane, Kasumi, or Legion (mainly because Legion is just damned cool, and I like Kasumi's playstyle with the stealthy stuff). In 3, it's Garrus and either Kaidan, James, or Javik.

For my female Shepard infiltrator, in 2 it's Garrus and Mordin, then probably Garrus and Thane or Legion. In 3, who knows, likely Garrus and James or Javik again.

I don't play to optimise squad powers, I just choose mates based on who I enjoy most. I play most games on the lowest setting because 1.) I usually suck pretty hard at video games unless it's something like Alpha Centauri or Master of Orion, and 2.) I play more for story than combat, so I want who will give me the most interesting dialogue or banter.

I have never used Liara, not in the three incarnations of sentinel Saemus Shepard, nor any of my throwaway characters, and I can't see my female infiltrator Tanner Shepard using her. I personally don't find her interesting and would simply rather have the ones I find most interesting in my group.

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Mcfly and stay frosty I don't hate James he actually grew on me. That said sometimes he gets on my nerves but he is cool for the most part. Javik is the character that annoys the f*** out of me not James.

Lol Javik is the ultimate badass and the ultimate troll, all wrapped in one awesome character. He's one of my favorite squadmates in the whole series.

Speaking of best squadmates to go into battle with: if you're a Vanguard in ME3, bring Liara and Javik and its a cakewalk on any difficulty. Borderline cheating. Biotic detonations all over the place.

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Mcfly actually Tali's character progressed the most I think she went from a kid to someone who is capable of doing extremly dangerous missions
Edit come on she became an admiral

Modifié par garrusfan1, 04 janvier 2013 - 06:13 .


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Overall, it seems like the Quartet of Liara, Garrus, Tali, and Ashley are the ideal squadmates, at least from BW's perspective.

Miranda, Garrus, Javik, Legion, Thane, and Mordin are my ideal squadmates.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

StayFrosty05 wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

StayFrosty05 wrote...

Garrus, Thane, Kasumi, James, Legion, Kaidan, Zaeed are the best squadmates I have had....Ashley with Black Widow as runner up.

James is annoying some times and isn't it ironic how Kasumi who is a thief is actually a really good squademate even though she really shouldn't be


I adore James personally...his such an insobordinate sh*thead and I say that in an endearing manner.....^_^....Shep needed some grounding.

As for Kasumi...I know right....lol...:lol:....in all fairness, no matter how much I love her, she did not belong on a 'Death Squad'....but she did kick serious *ss....:D

its good to see someone else likes Vega as a character. He definitely didnt deserve all the hate and "Jersey Shore" stereotypes he got before the game released. He is downright hilarious. He's a tool. But hilarious nonetheless. (And we all have atleast one friend that fits that bill)


I love those friends....:D...I get too damned serious too often and their great for reality checks and a good laugh.

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Ashley? Why Ashley? Ashley has less content than Kaidan and is somewhat cold towards Liara, Tali, and Garrus.

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Mcfly I hardly use vanguard anymore cause it is so over powered for me even without the biotic squademates. Basically run up to an enemy then use nova then use biotic charge to regain shields and then repeat.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Mcfly that side mission was pretty good but I like how he got more laid back or at least less strict then he was in ME1. Also I know the side mission your talking about was in ME1

I like his character growth a lot. I actually think Garrus and Liara have the most character growth in the series. The difference for me is that I was turned off about the change in Liara. The reason I gravitated to her in the first place was because she was so naive yet curious. That changed drastically.

Garrus turned from someone that was anxious to make a difference, to someone that had experienced it and got used to it. And became a straight up boss. I feel like Shep and Garrus are the ultimate tag team. I hold them right up there with Chief and Cortana.


And I thought I was the only one that felt that way....it's good to see I am not alone....I used to think Liara was rather sweet and cute in her fumbling manner.....she was endearing....as for now, I think I am pretty infamous for the way I feel about her now....:(

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David7204 wrote...

Ashley? Why Ashley? Ashley has less content than Kaidan and is somewhat cold towards Liara, Tali, and Garrus.

Yeah Ashley got screwed when it came to dialouge content which really pussed me off. She isn't cold towards them I think

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They are certainly a powerful duo and can cover almost all threats you might encounter.  But really any combination of squaddies can work just fine on any setting.  However, as they are my two favorites I bring them with me almost exclusively.

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o Ventus wrote...

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Walters was his writer in ME1 I think, not sure who it was in ME2 (Garrus is one of the few characters who changed writers each game, while other characters had the same writer throughout)


To be frank, Thane changed writers too.

Miranda also changed writers.


Well Thane's ME2 writer apparently didn't even work on ME3

I did not know about the Miranda thing however.

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o Ventus wrote...

TheWerdna wrote...

Walters was his writer in ME1 I think, not sure who it was in ME2 (Garrus is one of the few characters who changed writers each game, while other characters had the same writer throughout)


To be frank, Thane changed writers too.

Miranda also changed writers.



Yup. Thane and Ashley's writer, Chris L'Etoile, left while ME2 was wrapping up.  Chris Hepler took over Thane's character in me3, but I am unsure who stood in for Ashley's character write up in the last game.

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garrusfan1 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

The mandatory squadmates are always going to get the most flak. It was true with Miranda in ME 2 and it's true with Liara, James and EDI now.

Liara gets slammed since it is apparently a fad now a dumb fad in my opinion. While I like James people (some at least) hate him since he replaced what should have been a krogan squadmate and EDI was ridiculous in ME3 with that body I loved her in ME2 and ME3 just that body was stupid.


I love James...have no problem with EDI....but don't like Liara or Miranda....it's a personality thing, not their popularity contests or mandatory status.

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'I know you don't like Ashley at all Fiendish, so I'm wondering if that's making you say that? Because (admittedly, as an Ashley fan), I don't see how BW did her any favors in ME2 and she's largely sidelined in ME3, even having several scenes cut or with bugged content that hasn't been fixed. What little interaction she has is generally positive (particularly towards Tali), but it doesn't seem to me like she got much attention and a lot of her stuff in ME3 seems aimed at making her new-player friendly and doesn't seem to compare in depth or scope with what she got in ME1. Again, I might be biased, but I don't see her as being an 'ideal' squad member in BW's eyes...if she is, they've done some weird stuff with her.

My ideal squadmates depend on (1) What class I'm playing and (2) what difficulty I'm playing on. Obviously, with the latter, if I'm playing more to try a story path then I don't care so much and I pick based on dialogue on the mission or who I think Shepard would want with him.

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David7204 wrote...

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They were constant Party members in ME3, but that was ultimately through lack of choice


Tell me, are you capable of counting? Garrus is a mandatory squadmate...for half of a single mission?


Perhaps I didn't parley what I meant very well. I didn't care about Vega, EDI's spot could have been better filled with someone else, VS and Tali get their rotation when they become available, and Javik I basically only use on Thessia. Lack of choice was really just saying I pick them over people that weren't characters I previously invested time in.

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I tend to play as Biotic classes, so I like having Biotic party members. In ME 1 Kaiden was my go to guy; I would rotate Liara and Wrex. In ME 2 Samara was a must have and I would alternate between Jack and Miranda. In ME 3 Liara and Javik were basically all I used.

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TheWerdna wrote...

Well Thane's ME2 writer apparently didn't even work on ME3

I did not know about the Miranda thing however.


Yep. Mac Walters wrote crit-path Miranda in ME2 (that is, everything that isn't optional, like loyalty or romance). Patrick Weekes did her ME2 loyalty and romance, IIRC. 

In ME3, Jay Watamaniuk (that name is the antichrist) wrote her.