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On a Human Infiltrator and Havoc Soldier and only a little better on a QFE

1. Even with Radius and fired from cloak gets dodged ALL THE TIME 
2. Deals NO DAMAGE up front, in fact it deals no damage at all. I think getting hit by a -200 degree ice blast would hurt a bit. No DOT either
3. Doesn't stagger. 
4. Does nothing to shields or barriers
5. The slow down evo is barely noticeble and you have to sacrifice a damage boost for it 
6. Has LONG travel time. 
7. Does't freeze Phantoms - A BIG ONE  
8. That 25% armor debuff is nothing special. There are plenty of much better ones around. 

Buff? Please? 


 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 04 janvier 2013 - 05:14 .


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I love it.

But yes buff please.

Modifié par Uh Cold, 04 janvier 2013 - 05:07 .


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Uh Cold wrote...

I love it.

 

On what? 

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Air Quotes wrote...

Uh Cold wrote...

I love it.

 

On what? 

HFI with radius.
She is my go to class for point whoring.

Modifié par Uh Cold, 04 janvier 2013 - 05:08 .


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It's not epic in power but with a fast cool down and having incinerate to go along with it it is good mook control weapon. Also the slow down really seems to come in handy against some units.

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Air Quotes wrote...

On a Human Infiltrator and Havoc Soldier and only a little better on a QFE

1. Even with Radius and fired from cloak get's dodged ALL THE TIME 
2. Deals NO DAMAGE up front, in fact it deals no damage at all. I think getting hit by a -200 decree ice blast would hurt a bit. No DOT either

3. Doesn't stagger. 
4. Does nothing to shields or barriers
5. The slow down evo is barely noticeble and you have to sacrifice a damage boost for it 
6. Has LONG travel time. 
7. Does't freeze Phantoms - A BIG ONE  
8. That 25% armor debuff is nothing special. There are plenty of much better ones around. 

Buff? Please? 


 


Those are the things that really really bugs me about this power. Make it do 1 damage. ONE. So I can set off explosions.

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Not to mention the 'snap freeze' effect is pretty much worthless as health targets should be dying instantly anyways.

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 I love it on the QFE. But I'll always take a buff  B)

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I agree for the most part its pretty terrible. It is good for cryo explosions but as far as I'm concerned the N7 Sentinel does it way better.

-Increase missile speed.
-Allow it to freeze armored targets for about a second if they don't have shields. Even half a second would be enough, tremendously disruptive to boss enemies,

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Yeah, CB needs something.

Maybe should prime armour? Dunno.

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They should buff the -movement speed to atleast 60% or something.

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The slowdown effect from Cryo Blast is odd, because while it affects movement speed, I don't think it effects enemy fire rate. So while the enemy may in fact be walking or running a bit slower, they're still hitting you with the same DPS. If it slowed down ALL enemy activity, then I could see it being a lot more useful. As it stands, it really isn't that effective.

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If it worked like Snap Freeze and still effected stuff with shields/barriers it'd be good, but no.
Buff it.

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Uh Cold wrote...

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Uh Cold wrote...

I love it.

 

On what? 

HFI with radius.
She is my go to class for point whoring.

 

With a Claymore it's a bit better. As a sniper power it's garbage and the worst one from all Infiltrators. 

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Looks great on the fQE. Ah... what were we talking about again?
:lol:

Modifié par megawug, 04 janvier 2013 - 05:14 .


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 I was thinking the same [almost] - it's a good power that could be much better if...

1. It had a bigger radius evo so it couldn't not be dodged [at least as easy as it is now]
2. It dealt at least some damage on hit so it could set off a combo
3. Finally, if it could set up cryo'splosions on chilled enemies like Snap Freeze

Probably never going to happen, since the last 2 would make QFE lolOP

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Air Quotes wrote...

On a Human Infiltrator and Havoc Soldier and only a little better on a QFE

1. Even with Radius and fired from cloak get's dodged ALL THE TIME 
2. Deals NO DAMAGE up front, in fact it deals no damage at all. I think getting hit by a -200 decree ice blast would hurt a bit. No DOT either
3. Doesn't stagger. 
4. Does nothing to shields or barriers
5. The slow down evo is barely noticeble and you have to sacrifice a damage boost for it 
6. Has LONG travel time. 
7. Does't freeze Phantoms - A BIG ONE  
8. That 25% armor debuff is nothing special. There are plenty of much better ones around. 

Buff? Please? 


 


I'm sorry man, I disagree completely. You just forgot something... You know... That little...

25% debuff? No, not the armor. The actual debuff.

Don't use it on mooks, they'll be dead in half a second anyway. It's a debuff power, use it on bosses.

Modifié par Deerber, 04 janvier 2013 - 05:15 .


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Air Quotes wrote...

On a Human Infiltrator and Havoc Soldier and only a little better on a QFE

1. Even with Radius and fired from cloak gets dodged ALL THE TIME 
2. Deals NO DAMAGE up front, in fact it deals no damage at all. I think getting hit by a -200 degree ice blast would hurt a bit. No DOT either
3. Doesn't stagger. 
4. Does nothing to shields or barriers
5. The slow down evo is barely noticeble and you have to sacrifice a damage boost for it 
6. Has LONG travel time. 
7. Does't freeze Phantoms - A BIG ONE  
8. That 25% armor debuff is nothing special. There are plenty of much better ones around. 

Buff? Please? 


 


You're using it wrong.

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I stagger marauders ect with it regularly and I can't recall the last time it was dodged with the area evo.
Unlucky maybe?
I'm pretty sure shielded enemies are still 'chilled' - i.e move slower/take increased damage (if specced that way)

As a debuff. It weakens armour already the rank 6 is an additional 25% on top of whtever that mystry number is. And the weakeneding say frozen/chilled targets take 25% extra damage.

Not to mention it's nice low cooldwon. I'd say its pretty good.

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Stahlhammer wrote...

 I was thinking the same [almost] - it's a good power that could be much better if...

1. It had a bigger radius evo so it couldn't not be dodged [at least as easy as it is now]
2. It dealt at least some damage on hit so it could set off a combo
3. Finally, if it could set up cryo'splosions on chilled enemies like Snap Freeze

Probably never going to happen, since the last 2 would make QFE lolOP

No more OP'd than the Paladin.

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Deerber wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

On a Human Infiltrator and Havoc Soldier and only a little better on a QFE

1. Even with Radius and fired from cloak get's dodged ALL THE TIME 
2. Deals NO DAMAGE up front, in fact it deals no damage at all. I think getting hit by a -200 decree ice blast would hurt a bit. No DOT either
3. Doesn't stagger. 
4. Does nothing to shields or barriers
5. The slow down evo is barely noticeble and you have to sacrifice a damage boost for it 
6. Has LONG travel time. 
7. Does't freeze Phantoms - A BIG ONE  
8. That 25% armor debuff is nothing special. There are plenty of much better ones around. 

Buff? Please? 


 


I'm sorry man, I disagree completely. You just forgot something... You know... That little...

25% debuff? No, not the armor. The actual debuff.

Don't use it on mooks, they'll be dead in half a second anyway. It's a debuff power, use it on bosses.

 

Compared to Proxy mine? Or Recon Mine? Or Overload? It's meh at best. 

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Uh Cold wrote...

They should buff the -movement speed to atleast 60% or something.


2/10

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Snap freeze primes on protected targets, CB can't. It should also deal some direct damage, even if it 1 point of damage, at least then it can detonate.

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Its a pretty good power actually jjust needs bigger radius and cryo splosions on chilled targets.

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Air Quotes wrote...

Uh Cold wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Uh Cold wrote...

I love it.

 

On what? 

HFI with radius.
She is my go to class for point whoring.

 

With a Claymore it's a bit better. As a sniper power it's garbage and the worst one from all Infiltrators. 

I find it useful with a black widow build, good for crowd control on the mooks and the debuff is definitely noticable.
I don't go the -movement speed route on the power because I don't really notice it enough at 45% which is why I think they should increase it a little.
A bigger radius would be nice too.

Modifié par Uh Cold, 04 janvier 2013 - 05:23 .