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EvanKester wrote...

- Cryo Explosions primed on chilled targets.


If they added this the power would be absolutely perfect imo.

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It needs to prime for cryo explosions on all targets
the instant it hits. Waiting for a target to freeze all
the way before detonating gets old very quickly.

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It should prime on all targets like Snap Freeze does. It's probably a bug, since it's the only explosion without modifiers. Though that's probably something for a patch.

That said taking radius and aiming at an angle above their head will ensure that even dodging can't safe them from being hit.
It's a quick and easy debuff with some great synergy possibility (CS, Incinerate, Biotic Charge, Havoc Strike and a few others).

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You must be f*cking terrible at this game OP.

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Zjarcal wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

- Cryo Explosions primed on chilled targets.


If they added this the power would be absolutely perfect imo.


Agreed. Would make the FQE and Havoc Soldier a lot more fun too.

I just really hope that's not the kind of thing that needs a patch.

Modifié par EvanKester, 04 janvier 2013 - 06:15 .


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I only see Cryo Blast on QFE. Never on Havoc. Rarely on HI.


I don't understand what you mean here. If you're saying that you see most people on those classes spec out of it, then that's... wow.

 

Well because other stuff is more worth it. I mean Havoc freaking needs shields or melee, and stim packs. and Havoc Strike. And passives. Cryo always goes last. 

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You must be f*cking terrible at this game OP.

 

Yes I am. :crying:

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2. It's not the point. Overload does practically no damage either.

GE's overload OHKs Gold Phantom's barrier, making her retreat immediately instead of impaling you.. wouldn't call that 'no damage'

I used to play a GE specced for Power Damage too. I used him with a GPS and absolutely wrecked Gold.

Then I tried him on Platinum.

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Caligno wrote...

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If it worked like Snap Freeze and still effected stuff with shields/barriers it'd be good, but no.
Buff it.


You're using it wrong.


Why do people always compare it with Snap Freeze... I think Snap freeze is bugged, I bet bioware did not intend it to prime shielded/barriered/armored enemies... A better comparison to CB is the pre-Retaliation SF..

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I only see Cryo Blast on QFE. Never on Havoc. Rarely on HI.


Cryo Blast is 10x better than Havoc Strike so those Turians you've encountered ain't the smartest ones around.

It's also good for the HI. Either to debuff bosses or in case you missed a shot (or failed to kill) a lesser enemy to stagger him so you can reload & shoot again before taking any damage.

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Air Quotes wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

You must be f*cking terrible at this game OP.

 

Yes I am. :crying:


It's ok, listen to Feneckus and you'll see the light.

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It needs to prime for cryo explosions on all targets
the instant it hits. Waiting for a target to freeze all
the way before detonating gets old very quickly.

 

This too. 

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Fortack wrote...

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I only see Cryo Blast on QFE. Never on Havoc. Rarely on HI.


Cryo Blast is 10x better than Havoc Strike so those Turians you've encountered ain't the smartest ones around.

It's also good for the HI. Either to debuff bosses or in case you missed a shot (or failed to kill) a lesser enemy to stagger him so you can reload & shoot again before taking any damage.

 

You're not Havoc then. 

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I'd take proxy and recon mine over this anyday.

But it still is a pretty nice power. I'll gladly take a buff.

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Knockingbr4in wrote...

You must be f*cking terrible at this game OP.

 

Yes I am. :crying:


It's ok, listen to Feneckus and you'll see the light.

 

Mhhhm. Will do. When we play again. 

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I don't think it sucks but i don't think it's amazing either. It needs to be adjusted slightly, especially where shields and barriers are concerned, these are the two things that i think severely reduce it's effectiveness.


Exactly.  It's not the best power, but it's not useless either.  It's one of the powers that depends on your playstyle and preferences.  I enjoy using the power and use it frequently on my  FQE and Havoc.  That said, I understand why some people don't use it as it does have it drawbacks.

I get kick out of using it on abominations.  I love seeing them freeze up and fall to the ground for me to finish off at my leisure.

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Stahlhammer wrote...

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2. It's not the point. Overload does practically no damage either.

GE's overload OHKs Gold Phantom's barrier, making her retreat immediately instead of impaling you.. wouldn't call that 'no damage'

I used to play a GE specced for Power Damage too. I used him with a GPS and absolutely wrecked Gold.

Then I tried him on Platinum.


platinum requires Far too much DPS anyway. GE does wreck stuff up on gold though.

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Stahlhammer wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...
2. It's not the point. Overload does practically no damage either.

GE's overload OHKs Gold Phantom's barrier, making her retreat immediately instead of impaling you.. wouldn't call that 'no damage'

I used to play a GE specced for Power Damage too. I used him with a GPS and absolutely wrecked Gold.

Then I tried him on Platinum.

I only played a couple Platinum runs with GE, but using Harrier X - Incendiary IV. Cheap, but effective.

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cryo blast-itsucks

well said! :)

buff?please?

I'd be ok if it could set up cry explosions against all defenses. 

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- Increase the Radius from 2 meters to 2 miles

- Now able to freeze protected and armored targets

- Can go through walls

- Cooldown increased from 1.4 to 40 seconds

Enjoy!

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DHKany wrote...

I'd take proxy and recon mine over this anyday.

But it still is a pretty nice power. I'll gladly take a buff.


So you think powers with a double or quadruple cooldown are better?

Funny, since the damage of both mines is pretty much negligible on gold+.

I'll take CB any time.

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Air Quotes wrote...

Caligno wrote...

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I only see Cryo Blast on QFE. Never on Havoc. Rarely on HI.


I don't understand what you mean here. If you're saying that you see most people on those classes spec out of it, then that's... wow.

 

Well because other stuff is more worth it. I mean Havoc freaking needs shields or melee, and stim packs. and Havoc Strike. And passives. Cryo always goes last. 


...What? Havoc Strike is the single most worthless skill in the entire game. I've found that the class is 2-3x better with Havoc Strike completely left out.

Pull at least can CC groups of husks and etc. Havoc Strike just gets you killed.

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I'd take proxy and recon mine over this anyday.

But it still is a pretty nice power. I'll gladly take a buff.


So you think powers with a double or quadruple cooldown are better?

Funny, since the damage of both mines is pretty much negligible on gold+.

I'll take CB any time.

 

Cloak makes them irrelevant. 

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Caligno wrote...

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I only see Cryo Blast on QFE. Never on Havoc. Rarely on HI.


I don't understand what you mean here. If you're saying that you see most people on those classes spec out of it, then that's... wow.

 

Well because other stuff is more worth it. I mean Havoc freaking needs shields or melee, and stim packs. and Havoc Strike. And passives. Cryo always goes last. 


...What? Havoc Strike is the single most worthless skill in the entire game. I've found that the class is 2-3x better with Havoc Strike completely left out.

Pull at least can CC groups of husks and etc. Havoc Strike just gets you killed.

 

Well havoc Strike also needs a buff. 

But I mean, WTF? Havoc Turian with no Havoc Strike? Waaat? 

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Air Quotes wrote...

Caligno wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Caligno wrote...

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I only see Cryo Blast on QFE. Never on Havoc. Rarely on HI.


I don't understand what you mean here. If you're saying that you see most people on those classes spec out of it, then that's... wow.

 

Well because other stuff is more worth it. I mean Havoc freaking needs shields or melee, and stim packs. and Havoc Strike. And passives. Cryo always goes last. 


...What? Havoc Strike is the single most worthless skill in the entire game. I've found that the class is 2-3x better with Havoc Strike completely left out.

Pull at least can CC groups of husks and etc. Havoc Strike just gets you killed.

 

Well havoc Strike also needs a buff. 

But I mean, WTF? Havoc Turian with no Havoc Strike? Waaat? 


It doesn't matter if a class has a primary skill. If it's useless, I'm not speccing into it.