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[iOnlySignIn]

Stahlhammer wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Stahlhammer wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...
2. It's not the point. Overload does practically no damage either.

GE's overload OHKs Gold Phantom's barrier, making her retreat immediately instead of impaling you.. wouldn't call that 'no damage'

I used to play a GE specced for Power Damage too. I used him with a GPS and absolutely wrecked Gold.

Then I tried him on Platinum.

I only played a couple Platinum runs with GE, but using Harrier X - Incendiary IV. Cheap, but effective.

Well, this build is much better if you spec for Weapon Damage/ROF instead of Power Damage/Cooldown on the GE. 

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 04 janvier 2013 - 06:31 .

[Fortack]

Air Quotes wrote...

Fortack wrote...

DHKany wrote...

I'd take proxy and recon mine over this anyday.

But it still is a pretty nice power. I'll gladly take a buff.

So you think powers with a double or quadruple cooldown are better?

Funny, since the damage of both mines is pretty much negligible on gold+.

I'll take CB any time.

 

Cloak makes them irrelevant. 

Cloak makes almost everything in the game irrelevant.

[Deerber]

 

Air Quotes wrote...

I only see Cryo Blast on QFE. Never on Havoc. Rarely on HI.

I use it on all 3 kits. And I even spec out of fitness on the Havoc and the HI just to take cryo blast.

Nope, cryo blast does not need a buff. If they're gonna buff it then good, I'll have a monstrous power in hand.

If not, it will still be my most underrated-but-awesome power.

[Poison_Berrie]

I still don't know how you keep missing with Cryo-blast.

Take radius and aim above their heads. Dodging just became irrelevant (works for any area power).

EDIT: You can also stagger everything on Gold/Platinum with cryoblast -> Havoc, btw.

Modifié par Poison_Berrie, 04 janvier 2013 - 06:37 .

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

Fortack wrote...

DHKany wrote...

I'd take proxy and recon mine over this anyday.

But it still is a pretty nice power. I'll gladly take a buff.

So you think powers with a double or quadruple cooldown are better?

Funny, since the damage of both mines is pretty much negligible on gold+.

I'll take CB any time.

Hah, recon mine will wipe out a lot of mooks if you spam it, especially on the Drell infiltrator.  Then just leave it up to debuff bosses.  Not to mention the wall hack sight.  Recon mine is waaaaaaaaay better than cyro blast.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Cryo Blast is the Shuriken of powers

[Deerber]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

Fortack wrote...

DHKany wrote...

I'd take proxy and recon mine over this anyday.

But it still is a pretty nice power. I'll gladly take a buff.

So you think powers with a double or quadruple cooldown are better?

Funny, since the damage of both mines is pretty much negligible on gold+.

I'll take CB any time.

Hah, recon mine will wipe out a lot of mooks if you spam it, especially on the Drell infiltrator.  Then just leave it up to debuff bosses.  Not to mention the wall hack sight.  Recon mine is waaaaaaaaay better than cyro blast.

Not at all, not even in the slightiest, in no universe that is true.

Just no.

[Deerber]

Air Quotes wrote...

Deerber wrote...

 

Air Quotes wrote...

I only see Cryo Blast on QFE. Never on Havoc. Rarely on HI.

I use it on all 3 kits. And I even spec out of fitness on the Havoc and the HI just to take cryo blast.

Nope, cryo blast does not need a buff. If they're gonna buff it then good, I'll have a monstrous power in hand.

If not, it will still be my most underrated-but-awesome power.

 

I should at minimum freeze unshielded Phantoms. 

Yeah, I can agree with that. It wouldn't be too much of a change, but it would still mean something.

Besides, it makes no sense that it doesn't at the moment.

Modifié par Deerber, 04 janvier 2013 - 06:39 .

[DHKany]

Fortack wrote...

DHKany wrote...

I'd take proxy and recon mine over this anyday.

But it still is a pretty nice power. I'll gladly take a buff.

So you think powers with a double or quadruple cooldown are better?

Funny, since the damage of both mines is pretty much negligible on gold+.
I'll take CB any time.

you don't think that a massive AOE debuff which is 20-25% overall is better than 50% to armor with a 10% overall debuff?
Funny since the damage of cryo blast is nonexistent. I'd like to see cryo blast finish off crowds of enemies that recon and proxy mine can.
Also, recon mine highlights enemies, cryo blast doesn't. Both mines are GUARANTEED to hit, whilst cryo blast hitting is pretty inconsistent past close range.
I'd take mines and snap freeze over cryo blast anytime.  I'm not hating on the power though, jeez. 

[Stahlhammer]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Stahlhammer wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Stahlhammer wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...
2. It's not the point. Overload does practically no damage either.

GE's overload OHKs Gold Phantom's barrier, making her retreat immediately instead of impaling you.. wouldn't call that 'no damage'

I used to play a GE specced for Power Damage too. I used him with a GPS and absolutely wrecked Gold.

Then I tried him on Platinum.

I only played a couple Platinum runs with GE, but using Harrier X - Incendiary IV. Cheap, but effective.

Well, this build is much better if you spec for Weapon Damage/ROF instead of Power Damage/Cooldown on the GE. 

Yes, but them respec cards are rare these days 

P.S. It would be even better if the HM tree was separate for GE and that other abomination of a robot..

P.P.S. As for CB, I think we'd all be happy with any kind of improvement, hopefully the one that does not require a patch, cause otherwise we won't live long enough to see it.. 

[DHKany]

Deerber wrote....

Not at all, not even in the slightiest, in no universe that is true.

Just no.

says who.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

If it could prime CEs on Health AND Armor it would be grand. Not even asking for some damage or freezing phantoms. Just priming CEs on Armored Target would be enough for me.

[Deerber]

Air Quotes wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

Fortack wrote...

DHKany wrote...

I'd take proxy and recon mine over this anyday.

But it still is a pretty nice power. I'll gladly take a buff.

So you think powers with a double or quadruple cooldown are better?

Funny, since the damage of both mines is pretty much negligible on gold+.

I'll take CB any time.

Hah, recon mine will wipe out a lot of mooks if you spam it, especially on the Drell infiltrator.  Then just leave it up to debuff bosses.  Not to mention the wall hack sight.  Recon mine is waaaaaaaaay better than cyro blast.

Not at all, not even in the slightiest, in no universe that is true.

Just no.
 

 

Well I agree. It's a multi-debuff with a huge radius. It does everything Cryo does at a larger scale. And can be detonated. 

And you need to wait 3 seconds for it to work. 3 seconds are a loooooooong time. Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.

And you also can only have 1 active at a time.

It might be debatable,you might like one more than the other, but in no universe recon mine is way better than cryo blast.

Edited for moar long 

Modifié par Deerber, 04 janvier 2013 - 06:46 .

[GriM_AoD]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If it could prime CEs on Health AND Armor it would be grand. Not even asking for some damage or freezing phantoms. Just priming CEs on Armored Target would be enough for me.

[Deerber]

 

DHKany wrote...

Deerber wrote....

Not at all, not even in the slightiest, in no universe that is true.

Just no.

says who.

Someone who knows a bit more than you know about how this game works, it seems.

Since

DHKany wrote...

you don't think that a massive AOE debuff which is 20-25% overall is better than 50% to armor with a 10% overall debuff?

You seem to ignore the fact that Cryo blast can give a 25% overall debuff, not a 10%.

[Zjarcal]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If it could prime CEs on Health AND Armor it would be grand. Not even asking for some damage or freezing phantoms. Just priming CEs on Armored Target would be enough for me.

I'd accept that too.

[Fortack]

Air Quotes wrote...

It is how it is. And out of all Infiltrator powers, Cryo Blast is one the suckiest. Especially at range, for sniping.

Well, Tactical Scan is a lot worse and the nades of the Drell Infiltrator are really bad too. I much rather have CB instead so I don't have to wait til Xmas before the damn animation finishes or those nades reach the target.

[Deerber]

Fortack wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

It is how it is. And out of all Infiltrator powers, Cryo Blast is one the suckiest. Especially at range, for sniping.

Well, Tactical Scan is a lot worse and the nades of the Drell Infiltrator are really bad too. I much rather have CB instead so I don't have to wait til Xmas before the damn animation finishes or those nades reach the target.

Wise words. And Christmas is... Quite far away at the moment 

[ValorOfArms777]

priming on armor, priming maybe shields too

snap freeze is supremely superior to it atm

it does all cryo blasts needs *primes armored and barriers/shields*

it does deal damage (though I don't think it needs SF dmg just a small fragmentation damage like 300-500)

the projectile thing is fine...it's recharge speed is "fast" it's not like missing with incinerate

it's also hyper slow when freezing and requires them to be fully froze up ...for a explosion...wtf instead prime it JUST when it's touched by the freeze how ridiculousness

I think Proxy mines/Tac Scan/Snap Freeze are all superior to "Cryo Blast" (all 3 have shared similarities) 

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 04 janvier 2013 - 06:51 .