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[Learn To Love Yourself]

I love it on my FQE, and it really doesn't get dodged that much. Even if it does, 1. it's got such a low cooldown that it doesn't inhibit gameplay very much for me, & 2. it basically sets up the dodging enemy for an easy headshot.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

Air Quotes wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

Fortack wrote...

DHKany wrote...

I'd take proxy and recon mine over this anyday.

But it still is a pretty nice power. I'll gladly take a buff.

So you think powers with a double or quadruple cooldown are better?

Funny, since the damage of both mines is pretty much negligible on gold+.

I'll take CB any time.

Hah, recon mine will wipe out a lot of mooks if you spam it, especially on the Drell infiltrator.  Then just leave it up to debuff bosses.  Not to mention the wall hack sight.  Recon mine is waaaaaaaaay better than cyro blast.

Not at all, not even in the slightiest, in no universe that is true.

Just no.
 

 

Well I agree. It's a multi-debuff with a huge radius. It does everything Cryo does at a larger scale. And can be detonated. 

And the damage recon mine does is rather massive when you consider the number of enemies that can be caught in one explosion.

Modifié par Grumpy Old Wizard, 04 janvier 2013 - 06:52 .

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Now that I think of it, Cryo Ammo should also prime CEs on Armored Targets. Would certainly give me a reason to use my 100+ Cryo IV.

Biower pls.

[DHKany]

Deerber wrote...


You seem to ignore the fact that Cryo blast can give a 25% overall debuff, not a 10%.

Not ignore. Just didnt know. 

Too little info in the power screen. 

But I guess we agree to disagree.

[ETDM]

Am I the only one who think CB would be better

If it had force instead of damage?

[walklikeazombie]

Miniditka77 wrote...

 Yeah, I'd agree with this.  Just making it do like 200 damage or something would be a huge improvement.  A bigger effect radius would be a valuable improvement too.  Right now, it's really only useful as a debuff power unless you're playing the QFI.

Im almost positive it's a debuff power.  Go figure a debuff power.  What a silly thing to debuff the enemey.

[DHKany]

Fortack wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

It is how it is. And out of all Infiltrator powers, Cryo Blast is one the suckiest. Especially at range, for sniping.

Well, Tactical Scan is a lot worse and the nades of the Drell Infiltrator are really bad too. I much rather have CB instead so I don't have to wait til Xmas before the damn animation finishes or those nades reach the target.

No.

[iOnlySignIn]

Fortack wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

It is how it is. And out of all Infiltrator powers, Cryo Blast is one the suckiest. Especially at range, for sniping.

Well, Tactical Scan is a lot worse

Well, I think Tactical Scan is great if you only take the first 3 or 4 ranks and only use it on heavy bosses (Banshee, Atlas, Prime, Praetorian, Scion).

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 04 janvier 2013 - 06:55 .

[Fortack]

ValorOfArms777 wrote...

it's also hyper slow when freezing and requires them to be fully froze up ...for a explosion...wtf instead prime it JUST when it's touched by the freeze how ridiculousness.

And how are you supposed to detonate something while you're waiting for the casting animation & cooldown? When you cast CB and have a 200% cooldown bonus the target will be frozen solid long before your Incinerate gets there.

[Deerber]

Air Quotes wrote...

Deerber wrote...

And you need to wait 3 seconds for it to work. 3 seconds are a loooooooong time. Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.

And you also can only have 1 active at a time.

It might be debatable,you might like one more than the other, but in no universe recon mine is way better than cryo blast.

Edited for moar long 

 

Well I've seen Feneckus Vol Engineer. And Xcal's Drell Infiltrator. And play them myself. Recon mine - freakin awesome. 

12 meter radius slow down, 25% more damage and 2000 more damage when exploded. And a wallhack for the whole team. 

I'm definitely not saying recon mine is bad. In no way. I'm just saying it's not so much better than cryo blast. They're around the same level of utility in my opinion, it just depends on the person which one he likes more.

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Now that I think of it, Cryo Ammo should also prime CEs on Armored Targets. Would certainly give me a reason to use my 100+ Cryo IV.

Biower pls.

Damn, this I would definitely agree with.

[Zjarcal]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Now that I think of it, Cryo Ammo should also prime CEs on Armored Targets. Would certainly give me a reason to use my 100+ Cryo IV.

Biower pls.

F*** yes!

ANYTHING that makes Cryo Ammo actually something I'd want to use is welcome. That stockpile is too big. 

[Stahlhammer]

ETDM wrote...

Am I the only one who think CB would be better

If it had force instead of damage?

Now this is the interesting part. CB staggers all the moks, so it must have some force. And since 10% of force is converted to damage, then why does it NOT set off power combos?

[Deerber]

DHKany wrote...

Deerber wrote...


You seem to ignore the fact that Cryo blast can give a 25% overall debuff, not a 10%.

Not ignore. Just didnt know. 

Too little info in the power screen. 

But I guess we agree to disagree.

This one's pretty clear on the power screen.

But yeah, it wouldn't hurt if Bioware made a little effort and made the descriptions in this game match what the powers/anything else actually do 

[Pottumuusi]

Make it so, biower.

[Fortack]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Fortack wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

It is how it is. And out of all Infiltrator powers, Cryo Blast is one the suckiest. Especially at range, for sniping.

Well, Tactical Scan is a lot worse

Well, I think Tactical Scan is great if you only take the first 3 or 4 ranks.

You can do a lot more damage when you just use your weapon than cast TS (and wait for 2 seconds) and start shooting. The only time TS makes any kind of difference in how quick you can kill stuff is when you use it on bosses when multiple teammates are attacking it. You can use CB without slowing down your RoF AND have the 25% damage bonus (on multiple targets) = much better.

[Stahlhammer]

Air Quotes wrote...

Stahlhammer wrote...

ETDM wrote...

Am I the only one who think CB would be better

If it had force instead of damage?

Now this is the interesting part. CB staggers all the moks, so it must have some force. And since 10% of force is converted to damage, then why does it NOT set off power combos?

 

It doesn't stagger Dragoons. And I think some Geth. 

Dragoon ain't no mook.. It haz armorz and stuff. Miniboss 

[DJ Airsurfer]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

UEG Donkey wrote...

CB is good versus Reaper and Geth, you can run around with a Crusader/Claymore and still have a super low cooldown

It's good against any faction except Cerberus, basically.

I prefer to not play Cerberus. They are cheaper than Geth and noisy as f*ck. "WE'VE GOT WOUNDED!" "I NEED SUPPORT!" "DAMNI IT!" Shut the f*ck up, thank you very much. I'm listening to music. 

This.

Also, I'm sorry, but I can't tell if OP is trolling or serious. Granted, I wouldn't say no to a CB buff, but I don't think it really needs it at this time. I admit that it should be able to freeze Phantoms.

[ETDM]

Air Quotes wrote...

Stahlhammer wrote...

ETDM wrote...

Am I the only one who think CB would be better

If it had force instead of damage?

Now this is the interesting part. CB staggers all the moks, so it must have some force. And since 10% of force is converted to damage, then why does it NOT set off power combos?

 

It doesn't stagger Dragoons. And I think some Geth. 

Ah, so it must have 1n of force or some other negligible amount

That means they can just add a little more without a patch

If we could figure out the least amount of force to detonate Xplosions

Before it does any noticeable damage, CB would become an awesomingly mind boggling Meh power!

Or at least the tech version of throw...

[iOnlySignIn]

Fortack wrote...

You can do a lot more damage when you just use your weapon than cast TS (and wait for 2 seconds) and start shooting. The only time TS makes any kind of difference in how quick you can kill stuff is when you use it on bosses when multiple teammates are attacking it. You can use CB without slowing down your RoF AND have the 25% damage bonus (on multiple targets) = much better.

But I like telling my teammates what to shoot at without speaking a word.  And it sounds and looks cool, too!

But yeah, TS on anything smaller than a Scion is wasted. Especially outside of Platinum.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 04 janvier 2013 - 07:08 .

[LemurFromTheId]

Cryo Blast has 150N base force.

EDIT: 150N should be enough to stagger Assault Trooper, Nemesis, Cannibal, Husk, Geth Trooper, Collector Trooper, Collector Captain and Abomination.

Modifié par Aedolon, 04 janvier 2013 - 07:14 .

[Poison_Berrie]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Now that I think of it, Cryo Ammo should also prime CEs on Armored Targets. Would certainly give me a reason to use my 100+ Cryo IV.

Biower pls.

Almost certain this is a bug, though.
Would make no sense otherwise, since Snap Freeze primes on all targets and it already doesn't have any modifiers (unlike all other explosions).

[Fortack]

Aedolon wrote...

Cryo Blast has 150N base force.

EDIT: 150N should be enough to stagger Assault Trooper, Nemesis, Cannibal, Husk, Geth Trooper, Collector Trooper, Collector Captain and Abomination.

CB staggers everything with a (red) health bar (regardless shields & barriers) except phantoms, swarmers and swarms.

It did stagger Geth Pyros before the latest patch too, but AFAIK that doesn't work anymore. Not entirely sure about that though, but I only fight Geth in Platinum games when there is no way to avoid the bastards