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[Sonashi]

Seival wrote...



The only thing anti-enders did - is promotion of ME3 ending hate on BSN. They did nothing to help. They wanted Normandy crash scene to be removed, they wanted Old Man and a Kid scene to be removed. They wanted Crucible to be removed. They wanted the Catalyst to be removed. They wanted the ending to be completely remade. And they wanted to sabotage each and every support thread they see.

...BioWare fan base clearly needs some more refreshing. The sooner - the better.

Oh please, stop generalizing Seival. So according to what you wrote, we can assume that anti-enders = dark side and pro-enders = good side? It's not that black and white unfortunately. But I understand why are you have pov like this. I've seen your posts/topics before and responses to them.

Hater ! = anti-ender.
I've seen a lot of people here, on BSN, who dislike final conclusion but still they can give a constructive criticism. You might be upset with a lot of anti-enders but don't assume every single one of them is moron or hater, please.

Ok I have a qusetion. Do you think that after EC, the Normandy crash scene is really necessary? Or the Stargazer scene, because that scene adds nothing imo (well it's important when you chose Refusal ending).

Modifié par Sonashi, 05 janvier 2013 - 07:18 .

[The Night Mammoth]

Seival wrote...

EDIT: And here is a fresh prove that I'm right:

The Night Mammoth wrote...

There is no logic behind what the Catalyst says.

There's not, but I'm all ears if you want to try and prove that there is.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 05 janvier 2013 - 07:20 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Seival wrote...
Only after I'll be sure that all haters/whiners finally left, and will never come back.

Can I join this worthy Crusade, King Richard? 

Does that make us Saladin?

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 05 janvier 2013 - 07:23 .

[The Night Mammoth]

Paulomedi wrote...

Is it bad that I laugh my *** off everytime Seival and Blueprotoss post?

No, certainly not. 

At least they provide comedy, if nothing else. 

[Fifmut]

Paulomedi wrote...

Is it bad that I laugh my *** off everytime Seival and Blueprotoss post?

Don't forget Brovik!

[MegaSovereign]

I'm pretty sure most people outside the forum moved on months ago, whether they liked the ending or not.

[Seival]

No_MSG wrote...

Seival wrote...

No_MSG wrote...

Mass Effect 3 is finished for me.  No amount of DLC, or even an expansion, can make ME3 worth playing for me.  All I have left to do is give voice to my hopes for the next.

If ME3 is really finished for you, then please, at least leave ME3 Story discussion forum already.

Why do you hate Bioware so much?  I hate Mass Effect 3, but I still talk my friends into buying 1 and 2.  I bought a friend Mass Effect on the Steam sale last week.  I'd like to buy Mass Effect 4 when it comes out.

The problem is, if Mass Effect 3 is an idication of where the Mass Effect series is going, I really don't want want to play the next one.  And I want to let the Mass Effect team to know where I, as a fan, feel the went right, and where they went wrong.  Telling me to leave the forum because I don't love the game is silly.

I have no reasons to hate someone or something I actually support. Besides, hate is counter-productive.

...But I want Mass Effect team to know, that if the next ME game will be affected by haters/whiners, then I will not buy that game. And knowing BioWare, I can be 99.99% sure that next ME game will not be affected by haters/whiners.

[GreyLycanTrope]

MegaSovereign wrote...

I'm pretty sure most people outside the forum moved on months ago, whether they liked the ending or not.

You'd be suprised. I've seen people get very vocal when the topic comes up.

[In Exile]

Seival wrote...
...But I want Mass Effect team to know, that if the next ME game will be affected by haters/whiners, then I will not buy that game. And knowing BioWare, I can be 99.99% sure that next ME game will not be affected by haters/whiners.

Or financial success, based on their track record, since they managed to poison their last remaining brand that people (almost) universally loved.

[MegaSovereign]

Greylycantrope wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

I'm pretty sure most people outside the forum moved on months ago, whether they liked the ending or not.

You'd be suprised. I've seen people get very vocal when the topic comes up.

Yes, I suppose I would be considering that's not my experience at all.

I have ME friends who liked the ending and ones who don't. However none of them are on one side of the extreme.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 05 janvier 2013 - 07:33 .

[The Night Mammoth]

Seival wrote...

I have no reasons to hate someone or something I actually support. Besides, hate is counter-productive.

So is unconditional support. 

...But I want Mass Effect team to know, that if the next ME game will be affected by haters/whiners, then I will not buy that game. And knowing BioWare, I can be 99.99% sure that next ME game will not be affected by haters/whiners.

You quite clearly don't 'know' BioWare at all, since you seem to consistently ignore the existence of the Extended Cut and the reason it was made. 

Whether you agree or disagree with any of the so called 'haters', the fact remains that there are a lot of them, and they were loud and numerous enough to warrant an entire DLC dedicated to at least attempting alleviate some of the problems.

To think that BioWare is going to just ignore the fact that a whole lot of people didn't like parts of their game is extremely strange.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 05 janvier 2013 - 07:37 .

[No_MSG]

Seival wrote...

No_MSG wrote...

Seival wrote...

No_MSG wrote...

Mass Effect 3 is finished for me.  No amount of DLC, or even an expansion, can make ME3 worth playing for me.  All I have left to do is give voice to my hopes for the next.

If ME3 is really finished for you, then please, at least leave ME3 Story discussion forum already.

Why do you hate Bioware so much?  I hate Mass Effect 3, but I still talk my friends into buying 1 and 2.  I bought a friend Mass Effect on the Steam sale last week.  I'd like to buy Mass Effect 4 when it comes out.

The problem is, if Mass Effect 3 is an idication of where the Mass Effect series is going, I really don't want want to play the next one.  And I want to let the Mass Effect team to know where I, as a fan, feel the went right, and where they went wrong.  Telling me to leave the forum because I don't love the game is silly.

I have no reasons to hate someone or something I actually support. Besides, hate is counter-productive.

...But I want Mass Effect team to know, that if the next ME game will be affected by haters/whiners, then I will not buy that game. And knowing BioWare, I can be 99.99% sure that next ME game will not be affected by haters/whiners.

87.26% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

[Seival]

Sonashi wrote...

Seival wrote...



The only thing anti-enders did - is promotion of ME3 ending hate on BSN. They did nothing to help. They wanted Normandy crash scene to be removed, they wanted Old Man and a Kid scene to be removed. They wanted Crucible to be removed. They wanted the Catalyst to be removed. They wanted the ending to be completely remade. And they wanted to sabotage each and every support thread they see.

...BioWare fan base clearly needs some more refreshing. The sooner - the better.

Oh please, stop generalizing Seival. So according to what you wrote, we can assume that anti-enders = dark side and pro-enders = good side? It's not that black and white unfortunately. But I understand why are you have pov like this. I've seen your posts/topics before and responses to them.

Hater ! = anti-ender.
I've seen a lot of people here, on BSN, who dislike final conclusion but still they can give a constructive criticism. You might be upset with a lot of anti-enders but don't assume every single one of them is moron or hater, please.

Ok I have a qusetion. Do you think that after EC, the Normandy crash scene is really necessary? Or the Stargazer scene, because that scene adds nothing imo (well it's important when you chose Refusal ending).

Distraction team (also known as the United Fleet) had to fall back to avoid more casualties after the distraction was complete. Before that was added by EC we could only guess about Normandy Crash scene purpose. After EC release the scene officially became logical part of the epilogue.

Stargazer scene is ok both pre- and post-EC, because it's very nice intro to the new ME game, and one more proof that Reapers were really stopped - so IT is just a fan-fiction.

Modifié par Seival, 05 janvier 2013 - 07:55 .

[ChurchOfZod]

I'd think that ME3 being 20 bucks a scant month or two after release is all the proof you need that the "haters" weren't a vocal minority. That and the flood of returns I saw at many Gamestops. Oh and the fact that the EC was made. If the people dissatisfied with the ending were actually that small in number it wouldn't have been made.

[Femlob]

Paulomedi wrote...

Seival is trying to learn COMEDY GOLD

But Seival can't learn more than 4 moves.
Which move should be forgotten?

RELAY TEST THEORY
EUGENICS
PURE NONSENSE
VOCAL MINORITY

1, 2 and POOF! Seival forgot RELAY TEST THEORY
Seival learned COMEDY GOLD!

Seival uses COMEDY GOLD!

It's not very effective...

[TheRealJayDee]

Seival has hands down the scariest avater and signature combination I've ever seen. In combination with his posts I often get the feeling he is the incarnation of all that I don't like about the ME3 endings, having taken form to forever haunt the forums.

[clennon8]

Seival makes some cool art. He can't be all bad.

[M Hedonist]

Who's BlueProtoss? I don't think I've ever had the opportunity of reading something by him. Is he really as good as Seival?

[The Night Mammoth]

Sauruz wrote...

Who's BlueProtoss? I don't think I've ever had the opportunity of reading something by him. Is he really as good as Seival?

He tried to argue that the Conduit in Mass Effect 1 wasn't the mini mass Relay, and insisted the quotes, videos, and
pictures presented weren't reliable because they could be fabricated. 

A different kind of stupid. 

[M Hedonist]

Seival wrote...

Stargazer scene is ok both pre- and post-EC, because it's very nice intro to the new ME game, and one more proof that Reapers were really stopped - so IT is just a fan-fiction.

Oh man... I think this will be another Seival classic.
How can you know it's a "very nice intro" to a game we literally have no idea what it's gonna be about??
You know, people also used to say Arrival for ME2 was supposed to lead into the events of ME3, but then in ME3 it turned out almost nothing at all in it had any consequence whatsoever. I mean, sure, the thing with the Batarians is important, but other than that it also had a bunch of stuff that didn't go anywhere - Harbinger, Indoctrination, etc.
But now you're telling me you know something is a very good nice lead-in to something that has not even been announced yet? Not even the devs know at this point. But I guess the devs didn't know about Mass Relay test jumps, either.