308 réponses à ce sujet

[Creator Limbs]

BryceH wrote...
Anyway, why is your N7 rating what it is right now?  Are you chasing a ranking on the leaderboard?  Are you in the middle of the promotion challenge?  Do you not care?  Do you smoke a lot of the so-called "reefer"?

I'm sitting on N7 4102

I keep promoting because my brain permits that I can stop promoting once my promotion number is a multiple of five, however in a drunken haze or a sleepy haze, I'll accidentally promote someone and ruin my multiples of five thing I have going and the cycle continues.

I told myself I was going to stop at N7 1000. Ahahaha...

Modifié par prostheticlimbs, 06 janvier 2013 - 06:57 .

[DarkseidXIII]

Stopped in May at 3600. Started again after Retaliation. Planned on getting my global N7 rank to match my challenge rank, but gave up and began playing something else. Now 7200 ish.

[TheCinC]

I'm N7 450. I promoted experimentally a few times, just to see what it did. Didn't like running around with unleveled characters, so I stopped that pretty quickly. Then there were a few challenges that forced me to promote, so I did them and then leveled my characters back to maximum each time. Since then, I haven't bothered and I probably won't for the N7 challenge. I like my characters at lvl 20, thankyouverymuch. So unless there will be a weekend challenge requiring me to promote, I won't.

I like the nice round number anyway.

[SolidBeast]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...
Stuff that doesn't matter because he doesn't promote

 

To let all sleep, I'd love to see an example of your 120ness play as a level 1 just to prove your point, against a team of 5 digit N7s 16~20. If you can't then, just as I've been doing since I realized just how small your world is, i'm going to take your post as

"I suck as anything but a level 20 so Im mad"

Cause thats all I can graps from you. As before, enjoy your level 120. Gladly enough your on PC, (either way I don't care) and I'll never have to deal with your nonsense in what really matters, the game.

:innocent:

Ah, so instead of replying to any of my points, you avoid them because you're unable to refute any point I made, thinking going "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE A 120 AND I CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU WROTE BECAUSE MY GIANT 12K E-PEEN IS OBSTRUCTING MY VIEW" somehow doesn't make you look like a complete idiot. Head still firmly in ass, I see.

Now what would be the point in seeing me play a lvl 1 when in your next post you say, and I quote, "promoting doesn't make you better"?
Also you're telling me you're unable to read and comprehend anything I write because you're stuck in your own perceived notions of me somehow sucking with lower levels but not lvl 20s even though lower levels don't take any more skill in your own words and you call *my* world small? My god, man, are you capable of saying anything at all without shooting yourself in the foot?

Not to mention these gems:

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
1st lets not get into name calling,

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
Ill add alittle water since your a bit on the thick side.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
 I can't see a person who
doens't promote having the "skills" to play with a underleveld class
without the above 4/5 things I pointed out (you should always be
headshoting enemies, it doesn't take any skill, but its just wtf are you
doing if you aren't). They don't do it often enough to have any clue
how.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Also, stop saying playing under
level 20 is gimping yourself.Because
realisticly, if you look at the stats of characters compared to mods.
Equipment gives a HELOVA lot more boost than weapon passives and bonuses
do on characters. (30% weapon damage on a AR amp III is more than Human
soldier can get in the weapons path fully maxed out, thus meaning a
level 1 HS with a AR amp III is MORE POWERFULL than a level 7 HS with
maxed weapon damage and less equipment)

Also, I'm getting 1st
place on the "crapboard" against these level 20s with a level 1
character because I'm using mods and level X URs, very little to do with
"skill." For someone saying N7 doesn't matter, and who semi promotes...
I can't believe you think there is a gimping effect from not being a
level 20. It keeps sounding like you think there is some "gap" in what a
level 1 can do compared to a level 20. Being a promoter in any fashion
that shouldn't be the case, unless YOU find being a level 1 to difficult and assume since you have shortcommings that everyone else does in the same situation.

+ everything else you wrote in this thread.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

SolidBeast wrote...

More things that don't matter because he doesn't promote

You aren't getting anything relevent because everything your posting has no relevance, and now I see your trying desperately to "embarass" me, as your buddie pointed out earlier, for w/e reason, rather than come up with anything that (solidly) supports your opposing argument.

Actually, now, i'm starting to think you just can't read between the lines of what someone post rather than exactly whats written. Either way, do everyone who doens't want this thread closed a favor from constantly derailing topic with your pointless atempt at making me look bad to people i don't know, probably wont ever know, and really don't care how they would think of me. I can't give you any effort cause I realize you aren't really reading my reply post as much as trying to come up with some way to make me look foolish by turning and twisting things around because you failed to comprehend what I post.

If you want to continue to attempt to be the "internet bully," I'd gladly accept and delete PMs from you rather than further derail a topic thats better off without you or I in it.

My thoughts on promoting/scoreboard/N7 ratings are solid an religous. (Since you can't comprehend, I'm saying I wont change my mind) They have been tested and proven with to many experiments on xbox.

Now please. Do your best.

[Sekrev]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...
Stuff that doesn't matter because he doesn't promote

To let all sleep, I'd love to see an example of your 120ness play as a level 1 just to prove your point, against a team of 5 digit N7s 16~20.

Followed by:

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Promoting doesn't make you better, thats not the point,

So you agree with me then that HAVING TO HEADSHOT with your LVL1 made possible by SPECIAL PROMOTING SKILLS in order to SAVE THE DAY is bullsh*t? Or is this just another one example of your blatant contradictionary reasoning in action. Also, no matter how Beast would perform you'd brush it off as 'told you, it would go bad' or 'ah well, exception to the rule' anyway, so I don't quite get what you're trying to prove.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

1st lets not get into name calling, tronar isn't stupid.

He considers it stupid to disregard an n7 120 rocking URs. I consider it stupid to disregard an n7 120 not doing that. I merely used the same phrasing as he did. In this case I think his reasoning is flawed and stupid, I'm not saying he is stupid in general. If he read it as such I apologize because I don't know him and can't say he's stupid or not at all.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

2nd Did you even read AND comprehend his post?

That's it. A higher chance. There are always and plenty exceptions to that rule

Because making your statement red makes it more important! Did you even read and comprehend my post? Because it simply argues that the higher chance is not valid, there is no rule. I'm not talking exceptions, if I was I would not have disagreed.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

I don't get whats really going on with you guys. Some people don't want to play with people who don't promote. Its as simple as that. On xbox THERE ARE TO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE LOW LEVEL THAT FAIL AT THE GAME. Not promoting makes you appear just as they are.

I'm fine with people who don't want to play with people who don't promote. I'm not fine with them presenting their flawed logic as universal truth. I'll say it in terms you relate to better. On pc THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE HIGH LEVEL THAT FAIL AT THE GAME. THERE ARE ALSO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE LOW LEVEL THAT FAIL AT THE GAME. THERE ARE ALSO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE HIGH OR LOW LEVEL THAT SUCCEED AT THE GAME. Promoting makes you appear NOTHING better or worse than someone who doesn't. 

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Promoting doesn't make you better, thats not the point, but it sure as hell shows that you've been playing longer than someone who is N7 120.

No it doesn't. Now the part of my post you did not bother to quote:

Sekrev wrote...

I like to see a loadout make sense, but top-tier loadout is still a crap indicator of anything. It comes down to the ability to use said loadout which cannot be judged. Only indicator of someone's experience could be the lack of maxed lower-level gear & weapons.

You can get a view of someone's playtime by them not having maxed lower-tier gear & weapons, otherwise no.

[HEEGZ]

BryceH wrote...

It still blows me away that people kick based on N7 rating alone (post-120, of course).

It seems to me that anytime someone has low quality gear/guns equipped in the lobby, and their N7 rank is less than 400-500, they are usually terrible (gold). I don't really require a specific number, as the equipment and gear is more important. However if they have a N7 rank between 100-500 I definitely start psychoanalyzing them based on what is equipped. In my experience maybe 1 in 10 can handle gold with a low N7 rank (below 400-500).

[edit]
My N7 rank is 1589 and I hate promoting usually. I would probably be well over 5000 if I promoted regularly. I recently started promoting again because of the challenge and will cut back again once I finish it. For reference, I have just over 500 hours in ME3 MP and have almost maxxed out all of the UR guns.

Modifié par HEEGZ, 06 janvier 2013 - 08:35 .

[Arppis]

I've promoted because I have been bored or something similar. But I never cared for them.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Sekrev wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Promoting doesn't make you better, thats not the point, but it sure as hell shows that you've been playing longer than someone who is N7 120.

No it doesn't.

You can get a view of someone's playtime by them not having maxed lower-tier gear & weapons, otherwise no.

What the fudge....... YES IT DOES!!?

It took me what 7 hours to get to level 120.. It took me 7 months to get to 13K!!!

Everyone who is N7 120 Looks like they have only been playing for a small amount of time, since it only takes a small amount of time (in general) for someone to get to N7 120.

Which is one of my main points in promoting, I don't want people to think I just started playing yesterday, some people can't tell by weapon loadouts, as stated above with the 2 120s using the pirahna Xs with one literally starting yesterday and another who just chose not to promote. While N7 level CLEARLY says, this person has played at least level 19~20 and went back to 1, this many times.

Did you honestly just say that having a higher N7 ranking DOESN"T "look like" you've been playing longer than someone who just started the game? (not exactly but thats what I'm getting, I'm legitimately asking as well)

Again I'm not saying N7 actually means anything, but its a "indication" however small or irrelevant you or anyone else may think, of the experience a person has playing ME3MP. (xbox360, i don't know PC, perhaps it actually DOESNT matter on PC)

To say that there is no indication is what is grasped from your perspective, I don't state high N7s is being better as fact, if that were the case then everyone on the leaderboards above and below me would be better or worse than me, and thats not the case at all, not nearly (because I'm the best of the best:D) (that was a joke)

I see fruit in high N7 classes, and as stated before, with more casses than not, higher N7s give me a smoother game. I can't rely on someone who choose not to promote to show me different, or should I post, not any longer, Xbox360 doesn't have enough "hidden treasures" to support that. I've spent my earlier months almost every day testing that out.

Now I may be missing out on some great people and great players, sadly, if they choose not to promote. Its very unlikely I'll ever get the honor. And I'm willing/currently/will continue to accept that.

And the colors really caught my attention, which is also the reason I use them.

Edit. by the way, I also don't think we see a person as being "a bad" player in the same light, I've played with people who have gotten 50K more points than me on the scoreboard that in actuallity are complete trash players. And players that the lobby wanted to kick from a game afterwards because they constantly died, but that I noticed died because they were the only ones in the midst of enemies thus giving the rest of the squad free roam to fire at enemies without much backfire.

When I say "bad players" i'm not talking about score at the end of the game. I'm talking about how well they "react" to different situations in the game. Alot of people would say a volus isn't that good a character. Thats because from thier perspective voluses don't meet the 'good character" requirements. I on the other hand love getting shield boosted in hack circles and having my entire squad survive because of the blob, i don't care if he/she got 5 points the whole game, long as they did their part.

Modifié par Ronnie Blastoff, 06 janvier 2013 - 09:12 .

[spudspot]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Sekrev wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Promoting doesn't make you better, thats not the point, but it sure as hell shows that you've been playing longer than someone who is N7 120.

No it doesn't.

You can get a view of someone's playtime by them not having maxed lower-tier gear & weapons, otherwise no.

What the fudge....... YES IT DOES!!?

Ok, for one last time. 

If somebody has an N7 ranking of A, then it means you can derive a minimum amount of time  he must've invested to get there. Now of course, the minimum amount of time  you'll have to play for 120 is lower than 15k, but that does in no way mean that both didn't play for the same amount of time.

It's just a fallacy to conclude that N7 15k means more time spent than N7 120. That ain't an opinion, it's a fact. 

Seing that you're entire argument is based on that fallacy, I'm not even surprised you contradict yourself that much, it never fails to amuse me though. 

Quite frankly, you're coming off like somebody who feels the need to justify those >1000 hours played grinding for the highest N7 possible, forgetting that you were meant to play a game for the fun and not for e-peen extension. 

Even if you would manage to not go head over heels with contradictions while trying to make the point that N7 15k means you're better at playing low-level characters on gold, that point still wouldn't matter. I just don't find it entertaining to play with a not fully developed build, so excuse me if I don't give a good gorram about you being better with a level one char than I would possibly be. This game is weapon-centric enough already, I don't need to gimp combos/powers/whatever further and rely on my guns entirely, because if I feel like doing that, there's always the TSol or the Destroyer. 

Modifié par spudspot, 06 janvier 2013 - 09:38 .

[snackrat]

I was considering adding reasons for my N7 ranking but then I realised no one reading this - especially not at this point - really cares about how any other random nobody got their N7 ranking.... those readers just want to rush to the quick reply box and post there own. Hardly anyone will read what I post and those that do, won't care.
I like meat pies.

[spudspot]

Karsciyin wrote...

I was considering adding reasons for my N7 ranking but then I realised no one reading this - especially not at this point - really cares about how any other random nobody got their N7 ranking.... those readers just want to rush to the quick reply box and post there own. Hardly anyone will read what I post and those that do, won't care.
I like meat pies.

Please, do tell me why you have the N7 ranking you have, I'm interested to read that. I really think it is an interesting question Bryce asked here. 

[Ronnie Blastoff]

spudspot wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Sekrev wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Promoting doesn't make you better, thats not the point, but it sure as hell shows that you've been playing longer than someone who is N7 120.

No it doesn't.

You can get a view of someone's playtime by them not having maxed lower-tier gear & weapons, otherwise no.

What the fudge....... YES IT DOES!!?

Ok, for one last time. 

If somebody has an N7 ranking of A, then it means you can derive a minimum amount of time  he must've invested to get there. Now of course, the minimum amount of time  you'll have to play for 120 is lower than 15k, but that does in no way mean that both didn't play for the same amount of time.

It's just a fallacy to conclude that N7 15k means more time spent than N7 120. That ain't an opinion, it's a fact. 

Seing that you're entire argument is based on that fallacy, I'm not even surprised you contradict yourself that much, it never fails to amuse me though. 

Quite frankly, you're coming off like somebody who feels the need to justify those >1000 hours played grinding for the highest N7 possible, forgetting that you were meant to play a game for the fun and not for e-peen extension. 

Even if you would manage to not go head over heels with contradictions while trying to make the point that N7 15k means you're better at playing low-level characters on gold, that point still wouldn't matter. I just don't find it entertaining to play with a not fully developed build, so excuse me if I don't give a good gorram about you being better with a level one char than I would possibly be. This game is weapon-centric enough already, I don't need to gimp combos/powers/whatever further and rely on my guns entirely, because if I feel like doing that, there's always the TSol or the Destroyer. 

Completely ignoring most of your post ima reply with saying a person who is N7 120, is 120 because they CHOOSE to look like a 120. Think about that, I don't contradict myself, you as well as solid just don't seem to read between the lines.

I also notice from your reply you completely "skipped" over most of my other post in relation to what you had to say. Thus meaning you choose not to read that as well. Are you done? Cause we are in the same, acutally, your further back imo than when we began.

[snackrat]

spudspot wrote...

Karsciyin wrote...

I was considering adding reasons for my N7 ranking but then I realised no one reading this - especially not at this point - really cares about how any other random nobody got their N7 ranking.... those readers just want to rush to the quick reply box and post there own. Hardly anyone will read what I post and those that do, won't care.
I like meat pies.

Please, do tell me why you have the N7 ranking you have, I'm interested to read that. I really think it is an interesting question Bryce asked here. 

BUT THE MEAT PIES MAN. SO GOOD
However thanks for showing that at least SOME people read other posts. I warn you though my reasons are pretty standard and boring:

Started off promoting whenever I finished a class (most commonly the engineer or sentinels), in the rush to gain N7 back when everyone thought it mattered. Realising I was attempted to gain prestige in an arms race against people who had WAY more time and WAY LESS attention fatigue than me, I stop promoting for this reason. However, I still promoting when related challenges showed up.

Most of the promotion however, come from the fact I am a jack of all trades that likes to try different builds, or belatedly realise this build sucks, or someone informs me this evolution is broken (not all of them are so well documented on BSN as some would believe) and uncommon-schuncommon - those reset cards may as well be gold-plated for how valuable they are. Because I often need to 'rebuild' several within a class, I just promote the whole thing.

Oh, and I promote the relevant class whenever new characters are released because they're just going to give me XP anyway so it helps towards the appropriate challenge(s).

[RGB]

Karsciyin wrote...

spudspot wrote...

Karsciyin wrote...

I was considering adding reasons for my N7 ranking but then I realised no one reading this - especially not at this point - really cares about how any other random nobody got their N7 ranking.... those readers just want to rush to the quick reply box and post there own. Hardly anyone will read what I post and those that do, won't care.
I like meat pies.

Please, do tell me why you have the N7 ranking you have, I'm interested to read that. I really think it is an interesting question Bryce asked here. 

BUT THE MEAT PIES MAN. SO GOOD
However thanks for showing that at least SOME people read other posts. I warn you though my reasons are pretty standard and boring:

Started off promoting whenever I finished a class (most commonly the engineer or sentinels), in the rush to gain N7 back when everyone thought it mattered. Realising I was attempted to gain prestige in an arms race against people who had WAY more time and WAY LESS attention fatigue than me, I stop promoting for this reason. However, I still promoting when related challenges showed up.

Most of the promotion however, come from the fact I am a jack of all trades that likes to try different builds, or belatedly realise this build sucks, or someone informs me this evolution is broken (not all of them are so well documented on BSN as some would believe) and uncommon-schuncommon - those reset cards may as well be gold-plated for how valuable they are. Because I often need to 'rebuild' several within a class, I just promote the whole thing.

Oh, and I promote the relevant class whenever new characters are released because they're just going to give me XP anyway so it helps towards the appropriate challenge(s).

I am reading everything, I promise.  This is the first time I posted a thread that got more than two replies!

I never got the reset card rarity, personally.  It seems like as soon as I use them all I have three more.  Then again, I haven't seen a UR in quite some time, so maybe ... I dunno ... we can trade or sumthin'... <_<

[snackrat]

^ I don't have many URs either. At least not compared to my clan, most of which have maxed their manifests.

[8 Bears]

Pretty common reasons for me
>Promoted for a short while just for the heck of it, got bored and stopped at level 20 for each class
>Saved up around 3-6 million credits on 4 or 5 separate occasions (usually for DLC) and promoted because I knew cards would take me back to level 20 anyway.
>Promoted for weekend challenges
>Promoted for N7 banner

Somehow ended up at a rating of 3,310. Now I'm revisiting single player and sad I promoted at all

[Parallax Demon]

Had a N7 rank of 1500 for ages. I'm now at 2768 because I want the N7 banner. Will end up at 3300. Not a rank I really like, but I'm really getting sick of playing low level characters.

[RGB]

Karsciyin wrote...

^ I don't have many URs either. At least not compared to my clan, most of which have maxed their manifests.

Then it's time for me to stop complaining.  I'd give you a respec card if I could... most of the time I'm using them for mad science, then I hate the build so I change it back, and then...

I dunno, profit?...

[RGB]

Parallax Demon wrote...

Had a N7 rank of 1500 for ages. I'm now at 2768 because I want the N7 banner. Will end up at 3300. Not a rank I really like, but I'm really getting sick of playing low level characters.

Are you going for the banner because it's purdy?  I've seen a lot of posts to that effect.  It really is my favorite... and a lot of blood, sweat and tears went into it.  

[ShadowHound]

All of this high/low N7 rating nothing but judging a book by its cover. This is nothing more than a Call of Duty "why don't you prestige" thread.

[RGB]

ShadowHound wrote...

All of this high/low N7 rating nothing but judging a book by its cover. This is nothing more than a Call of Duty "why don't you prestige" thread.

Some of the arguments make it seem that way, but my honest intention was just to see if anyone put any thought into where it ended up.  Most BSN threads end up on a tangent, not much I can do about it.

[spudspot]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Completely ignoring most of your post ima reply with saying a person who is N7 120, is 120 because they CHOOSE to look like a 120. Think about that, I don't contradict myself, you as well as solid just don't seem to read between the lines.

Nah, I get it now. You don't contradict yourself when you make a statement that contradicts another of your statements but it's rather my inability to 'read between the lines'. You do realize how desperate that looks, right?

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

I also notice from your reply you completely "skipped" over most of my other post in relation to what you had to say. Thus meaning you choose not to read that as well. Are you done? Cause we are in the same, acutally, your further back imo than when we began.

I read it. I just don't see why I would have to reply to everything you post. You don't even accept that you've made a logical error, why would I take the time to show you any more than the most obvious ones to find out if there's any way that you'll understand the others? It's more of a 'let's walk before we run' thing than explicitly ignoring what you say.

Karsciyin wrote...

BUT THE MEAT PIES MAN. SO GOOD

Not my thing, my first encounter with it was without knowing what I was about to eat. Let's say I was a little 'surprised'.  

Modifié par spudspot, 06 janvier 2013 - 10:12 .

[Sekrev]

[quote]Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

What the fudge....... YES IT DOES!!?

It took me what 7 hours to get to level 120.. It took me 7 months to get to 13K!!!

Everyone who is N7 120 Looks like they have only been playing for a small amount of time, since it only takes a small amount of time (in general) for someone to get to N7 120.[/quote]

Of course it's evident of the time you put in, I'm not disputing that. What it does not show is whether you've been playing longer than anyone of another N7 level. You can assume that to be so but that doesn't make it true.

[quote]Which is one of my main points in promoting, I don't want people to think I just started playing yesterday, some people can't tell by weapon loadouts, as stated above with the 2 120s using the pirahna Xs with one literally starting yesterday and another who just chose not to promote. While N7 level CLEARLY says, this person has played at least level 19~20 and went back to 1, this many times.[/quote]

So you're promoting so another player whose views might be as narrow as your own won't make assumptions. But then you do exactly that.

Sure, the N7 120 could have started yesterday. He could also be playing longer than you. That high N7 could have a crapton of time invested and he can still be a liability rather than an asset. As I said before, I don't make assumptions about it because the results of these assumptions you seem to have I find non-existent. And not in terms of there are exceptions to the rule, in terms of there is no rule.

[quote] Did you honestly just say that having a higher N7 ranking DOESN"T "look like" you've been playing longer than someone who just started the game? (not exactly but thats what I'm getting, I'm legitimately asking as well)[/quote]

That is not what I said and thus not what you should be getting. But to answer anyway, failing to see evidence of someone who has just started (lower level gear and weapons) there is no assumption to be made about hours put in at all.

[quote]Again I'm not saying N7 actually means anything, but its a "indication" however small or irrelevant you or anyone else may think, of the experience a person has playing ME3MP. (xbox360, i don't know PC, perhaps it actually DOESNT matter on PC)[/quote]

As explained above, that reasoning is flawed, platform doesn't matter. You simply cannot know how much experience a person has playing this game based on N7 levels over 120. The only exception I've explained to you already.


[quote]To say that there is no indication is what is grasped from your perspective[/quote]

Yes, that is what I'm saying. Anything 120 or above that doesn't clearly show signs of being new as I stated, can have put any amount of time in the game, and can have any skill and experience level. You can't make assumptions about it. While it's a given that someone who has a high N7 put those hours in, it is not a given that someone with a lower N7 didn't. Case closed.

[quote]I don't state high N7s is being better as fact[/quote]

Your words:

[quote]Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

 I can't see a person who 
doens't promote having the "skills" to play with a underleveld class
without the above 4/5 things I pointed out (you should always be 
headshoting enemies, it doesn't take any skill, but its just wtf are you
doing if you aren't). They don't do it often enough to have any clue 
how.[/quote]

You can soften that up to 'they have proof of more experience so better chance for a good game' but that's still wrong.

[quote]I see fruit in high N7 classes, and as stated before, with more casses than not, higher N7s give me a smoother game. I can't rely on someone who choose not to promote to show me different, or should I post, not any longer, Xbox360 doesn't have enough "hidden treasures" to support that. I've spent my earlier months almost every day testing that out.[/quote]

I don't go looking for fruit if there's no way to distinguish what is and what's not. I'll just see what I come upon. And I'm fine with you being selective, what I'm not fine with is you presenting that as facts and anyone who disagrees with them is stupid enough to not see the truth. And when confronted enough you retreat into 'but it's my personal observation, so you can't argue against that'. And then keep on throwing out flawed arguments and blatantly wrong statements and logic to argue your case.

[quote]Now I may be missing out on some great people and great players, sadly, if they choose not to promote. Its very unlikely I'll ever get the honor. And I'm willing/currently/will continue to accept that.[/quote]

You mean if you choose to be selective. Whatever your flawed reasons for that may be, fine by me and great that you accept that. I don't care in the slightest who you play with, nor should you as long as you have fun.

[quote]And the colors really caught my attention, which is also the reason I use them. [/quote]

As you might have caught on to, I find it rather annoying. Same as typing in caps lock or repeating a statement numerous times. It doesn't help your case.

[quote]Edit. by the way, I also don't think we see a person as being "a bad" player in the same light, I've played with people who have gotten 50K more points than me on the scoreboard that in actuallity are complete trash players. And players that the lobby wanted to kick from a game afterwards because they constantly died, but that I noticed died because they were the only ones in the midst of enemies thus giving the rest of the squad free roam to fire at enemies without much backfire.

When I say "bad players" i'm not talking about score at the end of the game. I'm talking about how well they "react" to different situations in the game. Alot of people would say a volus isn't that good a character. Thats because from thier perspective voluses don't meet the 'good character" requirements. I on the other hand love getting shield boosted in hack circles and having my entire squad survive because of the blob, i don't care if he/she got 5 points the whole game, long as they did their part.

[/quote]

Funny that you even make assumptions about what I regard as a good or bad player. I don't recall speaking of it.

A good player to me is someone who supports the team, tries to help and contributes in a meaningful way. Place on the scoreboard is irrelevant in that regard. Someone who deals a crapton of damage is nice and all, but not necessarily contributing in other fields and thus not necessarily a good player.

In short, I don't have a problem with what you think or do, I couldn't care less. I have a problem with how you present your case.

Modifié par Sekrev, 06 janvier 2013 - 10:36 .

[OneMore1968]

1838, its taken 8 months, 800 in last 3. At least promotions mean not having to do any side missions now in the SP which is a good thing. Also i like challenge of levelling up. Once u get chars and weaps the rating goes up exponentially anyway. I'm not fussed on it, like having fun for a couple of hours after work. But i know it means a lot to some, just look at this thread.