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#26
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- Songlian - wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

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Tallis will appear in DA:I and will replace Cullen as a companion and LI.

It is known.

kill him and have tallis take his place? yes please


:crying: Now what has Cullen ever done to you?



I sure am glad I am not alone on that one.

I so wanted to gut the bastard for taking Beth away to the Circle...

Good feeling. Reminds me of executing 'stair in DA:O. Therefore: do make that happen, BW.

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I didn't care for her much, honestly. Though maybe if you are allowed to show her the error of her thinking in following the Qun, that would be interesting.

Shes a bit too lively, emotional, and care-free to believeably be following such a cold, ruthless, unfeeling creed.

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Chashan wrote...

- Songlian - wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

- Songlian - wrote...

Tallis will appear in DA:I and will replace Cullen as a companion and LI.

It is known.

kill him and have tallis take his place? yes please


:crying: Now what has Cullen ever done to you?



I sure am glad I am not alone on that one.

I so wanted to gut the bastard for taking Beth away to the Circle...

Good feeling. Reminds me of executing 'stair in DA:O. Therefore: do make that happen, BW.

alistair never actually became a templar, nor did he want to.

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also what do you mean by good templar? Cullen seems like pretty good one, i guess Greagoir was a good mentor and commanding officer.

Modifié par secretsandlies, 05 janvier 2013 - 09:16 .


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Navasha wrote...

I didn't care for her much, honestly. Though maybe if you are allowed to show her the error of her thinking in following the Qun, that would be interesting.

Shes a bit too lively, emotional, and care-free to believeably be following such a cold, ruthless, unfeeling creed.

that all depends on how you see the qun. to me she shows that it doesn't have to be ruthless and unfeeling, and thats a big portion of the reason i like her

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MR_PN wrote...

that all depends on how you see the qun. to me she shows that it doesn't have to be ruthless and unfeeling, and thats a big portion of the reason i like her


She's also a bad qunari, given that she doesn't want to cut out Mage Hawke's tongue.

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Tallis was bearably Sue-ish but otherwise a good character IMO. I wouldn't mind seeing her return, with a less dramatic intro.

As with most complaints about appearances in DA2, I find complaints about hers to be a bit exaggerated and silly, but that's just me.

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Navasha wrote...

I didn't care for her much, honestly. Though maybe if you are allowed to show her the error of her thinking in following the Qun, that would be interesting.

Shes a bit too lively, emotional, and care-free to believeably be following such a cold, ruthless, unfeeling creed.


The Qun isn't cold and unfeeling. It's highly effiecent, but there are still entertainers within the Qun. Just because soldiers are so stoic, doesn't mean they don't know how to have fun.

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secretsandlies wrote...

also what do you mean by good templar? Cullen seems like pretty good one, i guess Gregoire was a good mentor and commanding officer.

morraly good, not good at the job. like thrask, that carver guy(not carver hawke) and acording to aveline, wesley (though i never saw it)

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In Exile wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

that all depends on how you see the qun. to me she shows that it doesn't have to be ruthless and unfeeling, and thats a big portion of the reason i like her


She's also a bad qunari, given that she doesn't want to cut out Mage Hawke's tongue.

neither does arishok... its not their role.

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MR_PN wrote...

In Exile wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

that all depends on how you see the qun. to me she shows that it doesn't have to be ruthless and unfeeling, and thats a big portion of the reason i like her


She's also a bad qunari, given that she doesn't want to cut out Mage Hawke's tongue.

neither does arishok... its not their role.


But just as long as it's someone's role it's perfectly alright?

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not good at the job... how so? judging by my experience Origins Templars kill mages very fast and efficient.

Also does anyone in Kirkwall good and what they are doing? I just can't see a reason why you want to kill him. He is a human. A templar. And he is reasonable. Also he is cute and have good voice actor.

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secretsandlies wrote...

not good at the job... how so? judging by my experience Origins Templars kill mages very fast and efficient.

Also does anyone in Kirkwall good and what they are doing? I just can't see a reason why you want to kill him. He is a human. A templar. And he is reasonable. Also he is cute and have good voice actor.

your misunderstanding... "mages cannot be treated like people" this is why i hate him and most templars

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King Cousland wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

In Exile wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

that all depends on how you see the qun. to me she shows that it doesn't have to be ruthless and unfeeling, and thats a big portion of the reason i like her


She's also a bad qunari, given that she doesn't want to cut out Mage Hawke's tongue.

neither does arishok... its not their role.


But just as long as it's someone's role it's perfectly alright?


To be fair, I don't believe tongue cutting is standard issue or Ketojan or the Saarebas from DA:Redemption  wouldn't speak as well.

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secretsandlies wrote...

And he is reasonable.

He is?

Compared to the likes of Meredith and Alrik, perhaps.

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There's already an Elf rogue if you followed the leak. I doubt there going to put two elf rogues in DA3 as companions.

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bleetman wrote...

secretsandlies wrote...

And he is reasonable.

He is?

Compared to the likes of Meredith and Alrik, perhaps.


Yes, and there's no way that his views could have been coloured by seeing his friends, colleagues and mentors culled, tortured and turned into abominations, along with his home corrupted and destroyed. 

Just like it's bizarre to suggest that Meredith's sister becoming an abomination and slaughtering her family could have ever given her a sour disposition towards magic. 

Modifié par King Cousland, 05 janvier 2013 - 09:50 .


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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

There's already an Elf rogue if you followed the leak. I doubt there going to put two elf rogues in DA3 as companions.

they put 2 human rogues in da2, though one was day 1 dlc but still

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If she's less of a Felicia Day expy and an actual character who doesn't automaticlly get the last word in every conversation... then sure.

An optional one anyway, like Leli/Zev.

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King Cousland wrote...

bleetman wrote...

secretsandlies wrote...

And he is reasonable.

He is?

Compared to the likes of Meredith and Alrik, perhaps.


Yes, and there's no way that his views could have been coloured by seeing his friends, colleagues and mentors culled, tortured and into abominations, along with his home corrupted and destroyed. 

Just like it's bizarre to suggest that Meredith's sister becoming an abomination and slaughtering her family could have ever given her a sour disposition towards magic. 

one evil mage is not an excuse to punish all innocent ones

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King Cousland wrote...

Yes, and there's no way that his views could have been coloured by seeing his friends, colleagues and mentors culled, tortured and into abominations, along with his home corrupted and destroyed. 

Just like it's bizarre to suggest that Meredith's sister becoming an abomination and slaughtering her family could have ever given her a sour disposition towards magic. 

Never, at any point, have I said anything to the contrary of what you just explained.

The reasons for his particular viewpoint are, however, ultimately irrelevant to me. I can understand them. I can appreciate them. I don't give him a free pass as a result of them, however, nor do I consider him to be a "reasonable" templar, when he acts unreasonably.

Modifié par bleetman, 05 janvier 2013 - 09:55 .


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MR_PN wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

There's already an Elf rogue if you followed the leak. I doubt there going to put two elf rogues in DA3 as companions.

they put 2 human rogues in da2, though one was day 1 dlc but still


Humans are the only exception in all DA games.

I mean in DAO there was only one dwarf and one Elf.
Then Awakening had two dwarfs but different classes and one Elf.
Then DA2 had one dwarf and two elves but with different classes as well.

If there's another elf then I doubt there going to be the same class.

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oh i see pro mages propaganda. alright i walk The Eightfold Path i can understand your intensions. Also kill just for sake of it is a reason enough. Just remember not all skulls are good enough.

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I just don't like games with real people acting in them! It's a real bugbear of mine.

There are heaps of games, nowadays, that do it, I just never really knew the actor as well, before. (The only recent comparison I found as grating was suddenly wondering if General Tullius, in Skyrim, was a cylon.)

I guess, having real actors play parts, voice and/or with looks involved, makes sense, if people aim to make games with as high a professional quality as possible. It just messes with immersion, IMO.

I was also just reading, in a retro mag, about the development of Under a Killing Moon, and how Chris Jones, designer, played the main character himself. That whole interactive movie genre of the 90s makes for an interesting comparison, with a mix of professional and not-professional actors in different games, etc. I dunno. Go back further and you'll find Sid Meier and Warren Spector dressed up as various characters. I just didn't know who they were, at the time. Having Sid Meier walking around Dragon Age as a Templar, now, would be weird. Times have changed, or something.

There's definitely a gender angle to how people see Tallis, too, but I'm not sure I can put it eloquently. I just wonder, if they'd put in an explicit, well known, male actor first, if there would be as much criticism of physical appearance, etc, when Tallis comes up. (But, again, that's skewed by the fact that the character does look like the actor, but not *exactly* like her.)

Modifié par Firky, 05 janvier 2013 - 09:55 .


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Firky wrote...

I just don't like games with real people acting in them! It's a real bugbear of mine.

Isn't that essentially every game with voice acting?