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#101
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I liked Tallis in overall.

She did seem a bit Sueish at times and I didn't like the way how the game railroaded you into handing over the list of Qunari agents, but I chalk that up to the writing. Here's hoping she comes back in DA3 and be fleshed out some more.

For those who are all I HATE TALLIS/FELICIA DAY, the solution is simple; make her optional, either as a companion or a quest giver.

That's it. If you don't like her, just ignore her, and the ones who actually want to give Tallis another chance can do it, without removing her from the game.

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Maker I hope not... To me it felt as if the game was bending around her and they tried to force her down our throats- hey maybe some people swallowed but I tasted, choked and spat her back out like a bad egg. She was trying to be everything at once and it just doesn't work also...  You know... The fact I got called jealous by some of her fans for simply not liking the character is pretty bad too even when pointing out valid reasons nope I must be being sexist...

"Look at her isn't she fantastic don't you just love how she can do every thing you can do and more but better obviously! Oh and by the way do you see that lock over there that your rogue should be able to pick? Well you cant! Just so we can make her look even more super duper awesome!" <_<

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Just because people want to kill makes me want her to be a forced companion which will never die. Sorry but that's just how I see it. Same goes for every other character they wish to stay dead.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 06 janvier 2013 - 02:53 .


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MR_PN wrote...

So at the end of Mota Varric says that he thinks Tallis will show up again. This leads me to believe she will be in DAI as a companion maybe, or maybe just an npc. So im just wondering what other people think. Will she show up? If so, a companion or not? Also do you want her to show up? And also would you want her to be a romance option?

I just thought that was Varric being Varric, actually.

I wouldn't mind a cameo appearance, especially if it is linked to more Qunari action, a nice break from the templar/mage stuff. I would not want her to be a companion, nor would I want her to be a romance. I wasn't crazy about Tallis, but I didn't loathe her as some do here. For me, her bit in MotA was just fine.

#105
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I find her felicia day-ness a bit distracting.

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She probably got more screen time than she should have during her DLC, which sadly put quite a few off her character it seems. As a character however, I find her very interesting and pretty funny. Then again, I would feel like that since she's got a unique angle on the whole Qun thing and anything related to Qunari makes me want to read and see more.

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Tallis is like a bad Self Insert Fic character. Her skills, personality, influense and screen time are a bit over the top and it annoys me. Not to mention how she looks exactly like her creator.

Her creator played the character on web-tv. What would you have preferred the developers to have done, completely retcon her looks when she was put in game instead of retain the look she originally had for no reason? That's like saying Luke Skywalker is a bad self-insert for Mark Hamill in Star Wars games - of course Luke is going to look like Mark Hamill.

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I like Felicia Day as VA or actress in general. I don't like Talis as character.

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MR_PN wrote...
 alistair never actually became a templar, nor did he want to.


His being sympathetic toward the Templars does play only a part in me rubbing my hands in excitement over having him replaced with the badassery that is Loghain as the sword-and-board companion (to be frank, I usually just leave the guy in camp as soon as I am able in favour of Sten); I won't go over that in detail here, however.


Now, concerning Tallis: people seriously compare her VA to Jessica Chobot?

Seriously?

Unlike that one, Miss Day actually did a fair job of it. And Tallis being Mary Sue-ish? Going that far, that standard could be applied to some of the other cast too - e.g. Leto killing an entire platoon of bounty hunters on his own off-screen just so, apparently.

The dialogue in DA2 in general seems rather too "modern" many-a-time, although that was already the case in places in DA:O, so I do not see how that is a problem stemming just from MotA. If it needs to be seen as one at all, really.

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Oh jeez, this whole page is basically hate

Teddie Sage wrote...

Just because people want to kill makes me want her to be a forced companion which will never die. Sorry but that's just how I see it. Same goes for every other character they wish to stay dead.

gold star for this guy... Yes im handing out gold stars on my thread

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bleetman wrote...

The reasons for his (Cullens) particular viewpoint are, however, ultimately irrelevant to me. I can understand them. I can appreciate them. I don't give him a free pass as a result of them, however, nor do I consider him to be a "reasonable" templar, when he acts unreasonably.

 Very well said. And exactly as I feel. 

As for Tallis, I would be very happy to see her return as a companion (or in any way really). I thought she was an interesting character with a unique perspective. And she happens to be voiced by the lovely and talented Ms. Day. A win all around if you ask me.


Edited quote to make it more understandable to those who did'nt read the entire thread ;)

Modifié par Nerys, 06 janvier 2013 - 04:56 .


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Tootles FTW wrote...

Sebastian, however, had the plus-side of looking like this whilst Tallis had the unfortunate resemblance to Gollum.

I'm pretty sure I could superimpose Gollum's face over anybody and say they resemble one another.

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I like Felicia Day, but I don't like Tallis. However, Tallis might make a good companion in different circumstances so I can't definitively say "yay" or "nay" to the idea.

I'm still disappointed about how MotA ends if you demand to have the list, but that's a separate issue.

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MR_PN wrote...

Will she show up?


I hope so.

MR_PN wrote...
If so, a companion or not?


I wouldn't mind having her as a companion.

MR_PN wrote...
And also would you want her to be a romance option?


Sure, why not.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 06 janvier 2013 - 05:22 .


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bleetman wrote...

Tootles FTW wrote...

Sebastian, however, had the plus-side of looking like this whilst Tallis had the unfortunate resemblance to Gollum.

I'm pretty sure I could superimpose Gollum's face over anybody and say they resemble one another.

You have to admit it fits her head a lot better than Sebastian's :P

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having just complete legacy an mota again, i have to say i hope 100% she doesnt turn up or if she does i can kill her, all the way through mota all i could think was damn she a pain in the ass

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fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

You have to admit it fits her head a lot better than Sebastian's :P

Gollum has wide eyes. Tallis has wide (if significantly less so) eyes. That's where the similarities begin and end. So, no. I don't.

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fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

bleetman wrote...

Tootles FTW wrote...

Sebastian, however, had the plus-side of looking like this whilst Tallis had the unfortunate resemblance to Gollum.

I'm pretty sure I could superimpose Gollum's face over anybody and say they resemble one another.

You have to admit it fits her head a lot better than Sebastian's :P

You are awesome :wub:

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MR_PN wrote...

Oh jeez, this whole page is basically hate

Teddie Sage wrote...

Just because people want to kill makes me want her to be a forced companion which will never die. Sorry but that's just how I see it. Same goes for every other character they wish to stay dead.

gold star for this guy... Yes im handing out gold stars on my thread


The thing is, those characters are there for a reason: to tell a story. Killing them off is just immature and foolish in my honest opinion. I'd rather have a Mary Sue-ish character than nothing at all. Tallis was entertaining and I liked her, I do admit that she has some flaws, but I want to see her back again.

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Teddie Sage wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

Oh jeez, this whole page is basically hate

Teddie Sage wrote...

Just because people want to kill makes me want her to be a forced companion which will never die. Sorry but that's just how I see it. Same goes for every other character they wish to stay dead.

gold star for this guy... Yes im handing out gold stars on my thread


The thing is, those characters are there for a reason: to tell a story. Killing them off is just immature and foolish in my honest opinion. I'd rather have a Mary Sue-ish character than nothing at all. Tallis was entertaining and I liked her, I do admit that she has some flaws, but I want to see her back again.

yes i agree, tallis has so much potential being qunari and all.

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King Cousland wrote...

I really, really don't want to see her again, but I don't doubt that we will since BioWare seems so enamoured with her. If she turns out to be a companion, I just pray that she isn't compulsory. 


Agreed. It's not just BioWare, the entire industry seems to be obsessed with her. I didn't hate her, but I sure didn't like her. Please give me the option to kill her! :devil:

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Teddie Sage wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

Oh jeez, this whole page is basically hate

Teddie Sage wrote...

Just because people want to kill makes me want her to be a forced companion which will never die. Sorry but that's just how I see it. Same goes for every other character they wish to stay dead.

gold star for this guy... Yes im handing out gold stars on my thread


The thing is, those characters are there for a reason: to tell a story. Killing them off is just immature and foolish in my honest opinion. I'd rather have a Mary Sue-ish character than nothing at all. Tallis was entertaining and I liked her, I do admit that she has some flaws, but I want to see her back again.

Why? It'll be contrived unless she's there to assassinate the pc because a destabilized Thedas would be easy pickings for the Qun, i see no point in Tallis taking the place of a  new companion that could potentially provide some new insight about their country, culture, life experiece, etc. while she had a web series dedicated to her.

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I would not mind if Tallis returned. I hope she plays a major role in the dai. I'm really hoping she gathers the intel necessary for a qunari invasion into thedas.

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ev76 wrote...

I would not mind if Tallis returned. I hope she plays a major role in the dai. I'm really hoping she gathers the intel necessary for a qunari invasion into thedas.

That would make sense.

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The Hierophant wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

Oh jeez, this whole page is basically hate

Teddie Sage wrote...

Just because people want to kill makes me want her to be a forced companion which will never die. Sorry but that's just how I see it. Same goes for every other character they wish to stay dead.

gold star for this guy... Yes im handing out gold stars on my thread


The thing is, those characters are there for a reason: to tell a story. Killing them off is just immature and foolish in my honest opinion. I'd rather have a Mary Sue-ish character than nothing at all. Tallis was entertaining and I liked her, I do admit that she has some flaws, but I want to see her back again.

Why? It'll be contrived unless she's there to assassinate the pc because a destabilized Thedas would be easy pickings for the Qun, i see no point in Tallis taking the place of a  new companion that could potentially provide some new insight about their country, culture, life experiece, etc. while she had a web series dedicated to her.

i don't think tallis would agree to go after the pc... nor would that be her role. and she would offer insight into qunari culture.

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The Hierophant wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

Oh jeez, this whole page is basically hate

Teddie Sage wrote...

Just because people want to kill makes me want her to be a forced companion which will never die. Sorry but that's just how I see it. Same goes for every other character they wish to stay dead.

gold star for this guy... Yes im handing out gold stars on my thread


The thing is, those characters are there for a reason: to tell a story. Killing them off is just immature and foolish in my honest opinion. I'd rather have a Mary Sue-ish character than nothing at all. Tallis was entertaining and I liked her, I do admit that she has some flaws, but I want to see her back again.

Why? It'll be contrived unless she's there to assassinate the pc because a destabilized Thedas would be easy pickings for the Qun, i see no point in Tallis taking the place of a  new companion that could potentially provide some new insight about their country, culture, life experiece, etc. while she had a web series dedicated to her.


That webseries is done and her character is still alive in the world, I don't see what the big fuss is about. She has a lot of potential to grow as a character and I support her return.