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[Arppis]

EntropicAngel wrote...

I hope not.

Gosh, she's ugly.


Edit:  Felicia Day is not ugly. Tallis is. It did not transition well.

Same as Miranda, basically (though I wouldn't quite call Miranda ugly).

That's it? That's the only reason?

Hm.

[Cimeas]

Arppis wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

I hope not.

Gosh, she's ugly.


Edit:  Felicia Day is not ugly. Tallis is. It did not transition well.

Same as Miranda, basically (though I wouldn't quite call Miranda ugly).

That's it? That's the only reason?

Hm.

Seems fair.  I don't think it's that he hates games having any female ugly characters, just that her particular face was an abomination.  

[Wullo]

Firky wrote...

^ That's the indescribable gender thing I was alluding to on the last page, beautifully captured.

Because, I can't replace all the "shes" with "hes" and still believe it.

(Don't worry. It's probably just me. And, there may be a case for putting "he" in there. It's just outside of my experience.)

Edit: My point being, that I wish BioWare had tried the "putting a gamer/journalist/etc into the game" thing with a guy first. (But, like I said, maybe just me.)

I think I know what you mean, and not just with "celebrities" translated into games, but with characters in general.
And no, it's not just you, David Gaider seem to share your opinion about the "gender thing": (just a snippet here)

"As a general rule (to which there are always exceptions) male characters tend to oohed and ahhed over by the female fans, who immediately begin conjuring backgrounds for them (if said background is unknown) and wondering if they’re romanceable. Female characters, meanwhile, are immediately condemned for every physical flaw they might have or the way they dress. And not just by male fans."

And to contribute to the topic at hand.. I wouldn't mind Tallis appearing in the next game if Bioware has some interesting story to tell with her.

Modifié par Wullo, 07 janvier 2013 - 02:48 .

[Cimeas]

And frankly, if they haphazardly transferred a guys face into the game and they looked disgusting, I would campaign against that too.

[Dave of Canada]

Firky wrote...

^ That's the indescribable gender thing I was alluding to on the last page, beautifully captured.

Because, I can't replace all the "shes" with "hes" and still believe it.

It wouldn't be so bad if the character wasn't so... horrifying (the writing, not the appearance). I've never been a big fan of character appearances based off their voice actor simply because they're a celebrity (hell, I hate how Adam Jensen in Deus Ex was based off the Art Director even more, so egotistical), however it's the character which truly bothers me.

I didn't care much for Anders either but atleast I can tell him to shut up and then stab him in the back, I played Anti-Qunari and the sheer fact that Tallis was forced down my throat was irritating and the fact that she's supposed to be charming--a "trademark" of Felicia's writing style and main reason I didn't watch any of her work--just made me even more frustrated when she escapes with the Qunari spy list and Hawke can't do anything about it because the writers deemed her "special".

I don't like Felicia but least in New Vegas was was decent (though she didn't write the character), here it's basically like she was given free reigns.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 07 janvier 2013 - 03:34 .

[Svanhildr]

^ I definitely agree on that! Just how I feel.

[MaggieSh]

She screams Sue to me. I got no room for Sue's. :l

[Cedryn]

Felicia Day wrote her character in MotA??

[MaggieSh]

QuinP2B wrote...

Felicia Day wrote her character in MotA??

No. As far as I'm aware, she wrote, and portrayed her in, the web series. And then portrayed her again in MotA. This is what I call a self-insert Sue.

Modifié par MaggieSh, 07 janvier 2013 - 03:59 .

[Dutchess]

QuinP2B wrote...

Felicia Day wrote her character in MotA??

I think she was involved in the writing, but did not write everything on her own.

[The Hierophant]

You guys should be happy that there's no news Anyone else want to see of Justin Bieber's likeness, and voice being used for a dlc companion. 

*edit*

Modifié par The Hierophant, 07 janvier 2013 - 04:12 .

[MaggieSh]

The Hierophant wrote...

You guys should be happy that there's no news of Justin Bieber's likeness, and voice being used for a dlc companion.

Maybe it works in the reverse, ugly people become attractive?

[Uccio]

If Tallis comes back I hope my aposte/Tevinter blood mage has change to fry her. He hates qunari, especially zealots.

[The Hierophant]

MaggieSh wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

You guys should be happy that there's no news of Justin Bieber's likeness, and voice being used for a dlc companion.

Maybe it works in the reverse, ugly people become attractive?

I've edited the original post for the lulz now.

[Sir George Parr]

The Hierophant wrote...

You guys should be happy that there's no news Anyone else want to see of Justin Bieber's likeness, and voice being used for a dlc companion. 

*edit*

I have an emergency bottle of eye bleach ready for such an eventuality.

[Cedryn]

^Then the writers are at fault here. Although her voice acting was also inferior to other characters. But mainly they failed to make Tallis likable despite her flaws (also probably because they tried too hard to make her likable)

Edit: sorry about the nonsensical posting. I took too long to reply and the thread moved on(

Modifié par QuinP2B, 07 janvier 2013 - 04:24 .

[Dutchess]

The Hierophant wrote...

You guys should be happy that there's no news Anyone else want to see of Justin Bieber's likeness, and voice being used for a dlc companion. 

*edit*

If he'll be only able to say "baby, baby, baby".

[The Hierophant]

XM-417  wrote...

I have an emergency bottle of eye bleach ready for such an eventuality.

You'll probably need brain bleach too.

renjility wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

You guys should be happy that there's no news Anyone else want to see of Justin Bieber's likeness, and voice being used for a dlc companion. 

*edit*

If he'll be only able to say "baby, baby, baby".

Naw, he'll have full on dialogue.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 07 janvier 2013 - 04:27 .

[The Hierophant]

Personally i'd like to hear Gilbert Godfried or Fran Drescher voice some side characters in the future. Probably voice a companion or two.

[Tootles FTW]

MR_PN wrote...

I'm sure tallis would be hurt that your saying she looks like Gollum

She doesn't exist, Jim.

[NoForgiveness]

Tootles FTW wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

I'm sure tallis would be hurt that your saying she looks like Gollum

She doesn't exist, Jim.

how would know?

[Tootles FTW]

MR_PN wrote...

Tootles FTW wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

I'm sure tallis would be hurt that your saying she looks like Gollum

She doesn't exist, Jim.

how would know?

Santa Claus told me. 

[The Hierophant]

Tootles FTW wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

Tootles FTW wrote...

MR_PN wrote...

I'm sure tallis would be hurt that your saying she looks like Gollum

She doesn't exist, Jim.

how would know?

Santa Claus told me. 

That SOB still owes me for the disappointment at Christmas of '93.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 07 janvier 2013 - 07:26 .

[SoulRebel_1979]

King Cousland wrote...

I really, really don't want to see her again, but I don't doubt that we will since BioWare seems so enamoured with her. If she turns out to be a companion, I just pray that she isn't compulsory. 

Same. Worst companion in any Bioware game imo. Just awful.

[cowoline]

Yeah I still don't get the thing about Tallis. How can a female Qunari be a ben hassrath? In DA II the Arishok can object to duel you if you are female (though he will anyway) and in DA:O Sten can confront a female warden about going into battle. And there is this.

Sten: Why are you here?
Leliana: What do you mean?
Sten: Women are priests, artisans, farmers or shopkeepers. None of them have any place in fighting.
Leliana: I have no idea how to answer this...
Sten: It is not done. There is no more to it.
Leliana: Do you mean your people have no female mages or warriors?
Sten: Of course not. Why would our women wish to be men?
Leliana: What are you talking about? They don't wish to be men.
Sten: They shouldn't. That can only lead to frustration.
Leliana: Sten...no, never mind. Let's drop this.

Is it because their titles means more than what they are? In which case it makes no sense that the Arishok complains in the first place. And if so does that mean that they are no longer women in the eyes of the Qun and lose some of their "rights", such as marriage? Can someone please explain this to me, because I haven't received a good answer yet?

So far Tallis seems like a bit of a mistake to me, even though I loved MOTA.