philippe willaume wrote...
Dhiro wrote...
Jonata wrote...
Death_Acolyte wrote...
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Nuff said
Oh, C'MON.
Anything coming from Soul Calibur or Final Fantasy should be left out of any "realistic women bodies" conversation.
I don't see anything unrealistic about her body. Unless you mean she doesn't look realistically fit for battle.
Too many gaps in the armour....
nightscrawl wrote...
DAO at least had the additional benefit of having a "large size" human male and female (female used only once) to add some variety.
Assuming that a female warrior character is wearing a full set of armor, there's no need to make variations specific to her, because all of that armor is going to cover her anyway.Several of the companions had unique bodies in DA2... But their appearances couldn't be changed via gear. The default bodies used for Hawke and every other NPC were designed to fit every set of armor/clothing. Multiple body types combined with a bunch of sets of gear means a lot of work. Judging by past Bioware games, they don't seem to think the effort is worth the cost.
iOnlySignIn wrote...
Nice suggestion. I can't find a picture of her outside of loads of armor/costume though. If you can find one, I'd be happy to add it to the OP.Lenimph wrote...
No one has posted Virginia Hankins yet? Who omg guess what looks like a normal fit person.
Modifié par Vilegrim, 06 janvier 2013 - 12:20 .
Sylvanpyxie wrote...
who would you like to add to it? I'm happy to take suggestions.
My suggestion would be, as politely worded as possible, if you're going to attempt to pin a physique on the Rogue class you should look more closely at the Fencers and Archers.
While I can't speak overly for Fencers (I've only witnessed never experienced), I can say with certainty that the physique of your average archer these days ranges from lanky to lean to average to bulked to obese.
While the average Archer in less modern times would be forced to inevitably re-position themselves during the course of a battle, they are far less inclined to develop the kind of muscular build or definition that you've displayed in your original post. They simply do not use their muscles in the same capacity as a modern athlete.
Also:
Which Dragon Age protagonist was "in the military", "with military training"?
Warrior or Rogue Hawke are both members of the military, or at the very least signed up for it, and fought in the Battle of Ostagar.
It's also implied that a Warrior in the Human Noble Origin Story has received some form of military training. A Warrior in the Dwarven Noble Origin Story has also likely received military training, it's heavily implied at least.
Edward III formally declared: “Whereas the people of our realm, rich and poor alike, were accustomed formerly in their games to practise archery –… that every man in the same country, if he be able-bodied, shall, upon holidays, make use, in his games, of bows and arrows… and so learn and practise archery.
This lifelong training left its mark on the archer. We can actually identify a longbowman’s skeleton by the damage they have done to their bones; otherwise rare defects show up along the shoulder blades, wrists, and elbows. The act of drawing back hundreds of pounds of force every day, hundreds of times per day, strained ligaments and bones to such an extent that some skeletons even started growing extra bone to compensate. Their devotion to their skill permanently changed their bodies enough that we can still identify them hundreds of years later. Few other professions can so easily claim the same.
Modifié par Vilegrim, 06 janvier 2013 - 12:28 .
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Vilegrim wrote...
iOnlySignIn wrote...
Nice suggestion. I can't find a picture of her outside of loads of armor/costume though. If you can find one, I'd be happy to add it to the OP.Lenimph wrote...
No one has posted Virginia Hankins yet? Who omg guess what looks like a normal fit person.
http://cache.nebula....WQyMzJjMGNiZTU=
The Moon has sung. It's also not hard to find skinny boxers that are extremely efficient at putting people to sleep. I heard most medieval knights were basically fatties though.Selene Moonsong wrote...
Actually, I dislike all insinuations of what a woman's, or even a man's, physique should look like.
Anyone who has spent time in the military knows that the largest number of men and women aren't ripped and muscular like someone who spends most of their time in the gym body building: they pretty much look like every day people. It is actually very few who actually look like the suggested images.
OH. I need to go back through and loot all of the skeletons, I'll look for that, thanks.The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
nightscrawl wrote...
DAO at least had the additional benefit of having a "large size" human male and female (female used only once) to add some variety.
Not to detract from your point, but the large size female body also was seen in the Arl of Redcliffe's Denerim Estate kitchen area.
That sounds more like damage than muscles. They probably wouldn't have gotten very bulky without aiming specifically for hypertrophy.Vilegrim wrote...
Sylvanpyxie wrote...
who would you like to add to it? I'm happy to take suggestions.
My suggestion would be, as politely worded as possible, if you're going to attempt to pin a physique on the Rogue class you should look more closely at the Fencers and Archers.
While I can't speak overly for Fencers (I've only witnessed never experienced), I can say with certainty that the physique of your average archer these days ranges from lanky to lean to average to bulked to obese.
While the average Archer in less modern times would be forced to inevitably re-position themselves during the course of a battle, they are far less inclined to develop the kind of muscular build or definition that you've displayed in your original post. They simply do not use their muscles in the same capacity as a modern athlete.
Also:
Which Dragon Age protagonist was "in the military", "with military training"?
Warrior or Rogue Hawke are both members of the military, or at the very least signed up for it, and fought in the Battle of Ostagar.
It's also implied that a Warrior in the Human Noble Origin Story has received some form of military training. A Warrior in the Dwarven Noble Origin Story has also likely received military training, it's heavily implied at least.
Medieval archers where so muscular in the upper body their bones are distorted, and had to, by law, practice every holiday (so at least every sunday, and any saints day. Never make the mistake of assuming people in ages past didn't understand how important training was, and how important the right food was, , archers trained for hours every week, knights the same, thye had diet guides, training manuals and professional instructors, the understanding was flawed, but it was their.Edward III formally declared: “Whereas the people of our realm, rich and poor alike, were accustomed formerly in their games to practise archery –… that every man in the same country, if he be able-bodied, shall, upon holidays, make use, in his games, of bows and arrows… and so learn and practise archery.
This lifelong training left its mark on the archer. We can actually identify a longbowman’s skeleton by the damage they have done to their bones; otherwise rare defects show up along the shoulder blades, wrists, and elbows. The act of drawing back hundreds of pounds of force every day, hundreds of times per day, strained ligaments and bones to such an extent that some skeletons even started growing extra bone to compensate. Their devotion to their skill permanently changed their bodies enough that we can still identify them hundreds of years later. Few other professions can so easily claim the same.
Modifié par fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb, 06 janvier 2013 - 02:29 .
fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...
Other thing for you lot to consider: Bioware will probably be their lazy self and give everyone the same bodies. So what, everyone should look like a swimmer?
I freely admit that my experience with games is extremely limited. In fact, I will be completely honest and say that Neverwinter Nights, Neverwinter Nights 2, and both Dragon Age games are the sole extent of my cRPG experience. I play other things, but they're not RPGs, and most of them are quite old (World of Warcraft). The only game I've ever played with a customizable body slider was Guild Wars 1.Noviere wrote...
Several of the companions had unique bodies in DA2... But their appearances couldn't be changed via gear. The default bodies used for Hawke and every other NPC were designed to fit every set of armor/clothing. Multiple body types combined with a bunch of sets of gear means a lot of work. Judging by past Bioware games, they don't seem to think the effort is worth the cost.
I guess, in a shortcut kinda way. Technically they had different armours,which is why they always wore the same thing, oh and of course so they had an "iconic look" right, right.The Woldan wrote...
fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...
Other thing for you lot to consider: Bioware will probably be their lazy self and give everyone the same bodies. So what, everyone should look like a swimmer?
Doubt that, the companions in DA2 had all different body models, and something tells me that we'll get a body slider a'la Skyrim for the PC.
Modifié par fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb, 06 janvier 2013 - 02:52 .
Speaking of overweight appearances, this man is fitter than every single person on the board:Selene Moonsong wrote...
Abraham_uk wrote...
Can you have people who are slightly overweight in the millitary?
Those are every day people where I'm from.
I'm not trying to insinuate anything. I'm just asking, because I'm literally that ignorant.
The same in the military, as long as body fat ratios are within military requiremetnts and they can pass physical tests, there are are many of those who are slightly overweight in appearance but still meet physical requirements. Only a very few actually look like athletes.
fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...
They mentioned that companions will be customizable this time round though, so unless we get sliders...
fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...
Speaking of overweight appearances, this man is fitter than every single person on the board:
Modifié par The Woldan , 06 janvier 2013 - 02:58 .
Dhiro wrote...
philippe willaume wrote...
Dhiro wrote...
I don't see anything unrealistic about her body. Unless you mean she doesn't look realistically fit for battle.
Too many gaps in the armour....
I was talking about her body, not her outfit, but I suppose that it could be attached to her skin.
Modifié par Josielyn, 06 janvier 2013 - 03:52 .
Their bones degraded from repetitive strain, as do the bones of modern archers. I was not disputing that combat archers developed an impressive muscular structure on their back, shoulders and upper arms, I was merely pointing out that they would *not* develop the muscle structure and definition of the persons in the originally posted pictures.Medieval archers were so muscular in the upper body their bones are distorted
Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 06 janvier 2013 - 04:03 .
It's not as bad as Fenris, and the pencil armed fem Hawke swinging around DA's bulky greatswords like they're yardsticksJosielyn wrote...
Question: do female mages need muscles? I don't think so, except for twirling a staff around:
here are some DA2 female mage-in-action pics posted to my album:
http://social.biowar.../1329752/244435
seems like the male mage has a little bit more bicep to accomplish this. I wonder how much a staff weighs?
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