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The Women of Sparta: A Guide to What a Warrior/Rogue Female PC Should Look Like


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Paul Sedgmore wrote...

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Modern military gear often weighs more than a typical suit of platemail, from what I understand.

Fair enough.



I used full combat gear combined with full packbag in army (finnish army) and compared that to the medieval gear I´ve put on, I personally think old armor beats new gear in weight. They are close but still new is less IMO. Not to forget that in the old days people were supposed to have a physical fight wearing that armor and wielding a weapon for hours after their march to the killing fields. 


Plus unless I'm very much mistaken the medieval gear you have warn would have been made with modern techniques and materials (we are able to make steel that provides the same protection a lot thiner now then back in the 11th century) than a genuine medieval set of platemail. 

I think that people vastly underestimate how much a suit of platemail really weighs


On the contrary, most people overestimate it.  Depending on quality of steel and time period we're talking about between 40 to 70 pounds for combat armor, with 50-60 being the most common.  (Armors greater than 60lbs in weight tended to come about after pistols became popular.  The weight was largely due to a thickened bullet resistant breastplate.)  This weight was distributed across the entire body, manking it significantly less encumbering than a backpack of the samee weight.  there are multiple accounts of fully armored knights doing jumps and cartwheels, sprinting and vaulting into the saddle at the run.   

In addition, the typical European sword only weighed a few pounds.  The greatsword was actually not nearly as common as is often made out to be the case.  Also, by the time of the mid 1400s shields largely fell out of favor.  Knights typically used polearms for dismounted combat at this point, and kept their swords as backups.  When using a sword they kept their left hand free in order to grapple with their opponents.

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.... I know the silution to ALL of this.... buy th PC version then MOD it to the body types you want... there settled.

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I've known one "warrior woman" in my life who truly earned that title. That would be the sensei from my Japanese Swordsmanship class. She spent several hours per day training and practicing cuts with a katana, sometimes armored. In addition to this she competed in kickboxing and Aikido. She was by far the deadliest person I have ever known, and she was about 5'6" and slender. She had some muscle definition, but not anything like those athletes in the OP's pics.

On the other hand, if we're going to have giant swords and really bulky armor in the game I'm fine with a lot more muscle definition. While a slender build might make sense with realistic armor and weapons, it makes no sense with the over-the-top Sherman Tank like suits of armor in Dragon Age that look to weight about 300 pounds. Also, I'm perfectly fine with muscular women, and am leaning toward their inclusion just to ****** off the "Ew, girls with muscles" crowd.

In the end though I'd prefer either a body slider ar a few bodies to choose from. We'll see what BioWare does.

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Nightdragon8 wrote...

.... I know the silution to ALL of this.... buy th PC version then MOD it to the body types you want... there settled.


Frostbite Engine is not moddable, and i am afraid there will be no editor to help out with it either.

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Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

Nightdragon8 wrote...

.... I know the silution to ALL of this.... buy th PC version then MOD it to the body types you want... there settled.


Frostbite Engine is not moddable, and i am afraid there will be no editor to help out with it either.

hahaha I'm honestly not surprised by this one bit...can't have the fans extending the life of a game or making new content without paying for it now can we?!

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Rogues shouldn't look like warriors. Period. Not much strength is required to lift up a dagger.

Oh and Joan of Arc was never depicted with muscles in art and no historian ever mentioned her having the build of a man so why should every female warrior of DA look like they've been to the gym?

Contrary to BSN popular belief you don't have to have to have the build of Andre of Astora to swing a sword. If we're talking about a greatsword then it makes sense for the weilder to have muscles but that doesn't mean they would look like a body builder.

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Anyone who has spent time in the military knows that the largest number of men and women aren't ripped and muscular like someone who spends most of their time in the gym body building: they pretty much look like every day people. It is actually very few who actually look like the suggested images.

People in the modern military also don't wear full suits of platemail anymore, such is my understanding.


No but they still wear heavy armor and carry equipment around. Knights in platemail weren't ripped otherwise they would have been depicted as such in medieval art when artists painted pictures of Lord Knights in regular clothing.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 07 janvier 2013 - 12:54 .


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well the girl at 2:20 in can umpa me and my 220 lbs a full mat away when he does not control my arm and that regardless if i try to rodeo the umpa or not
(umpa= )
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Below are some Spartan women (women from Sparta, GA). They are in decent shape and some are quite attractive, but they really couldn't be said to be overly buff.

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The Spartan girls are in red, gold and white.

Modifié par mousestalker, 07 janvier 2013 - 04:21 .


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Elton John is dead wrote...

Oh and Joan of Arc was never depicted with muscles in art and no historian ever mentioned her having the build of a man so why should every female warrior of DA look like they've been to the gym


Contrary to popular belief Joan of Arc did NOT fight, she was merely a holy smybol boosting the troops morale on the battlefied, but she did not wield a weapon and did not engage enemies in combat.
She wore a suit of plate mail though.

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]hahaha I'm honestly not surprised by this one bit...can't have the fans extending the life of a game or making new content without paying for it now can we?!

Bioware is sadly still unable to understand the concept of fan modding which makes a game much more popular, even though thats one reason why Skyrim sold so well.

Modifié par The Woldan , 07 janvier 2013 - 03:48 .


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Problem with realistic women is: whats next?

I mean, the way Hawke use a Zweihänder isnt realistic, male or female. Also, most knight armors like the ones used in Dragon Age or similiar, were meant for cermonial armors, rarely ever for combat.
What I mean is, much of the armor in DA actually exist in the real world, but used during important events, but rarely on battlefields.

As I said before, im not sexist at all, but I think women should be good-looking and have a nice rack.
I mean, nobody want another Aveline. Also, my friends gf got a boob job, so its more common then we think. And if we can do it today with surgeons, so could mages with magic.

Modifié par SweQue, 07 janvier 2013 - 08:44 .


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SweQue wrote...

that guy, is Fedor Emelianenko, he had like 30 win streak in cage fighting/mma. A brutal beast from Russia.



Reminds me of this guy, Aleksandr Karelin. The siberian bear. 




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The Woldan wrote...

OT: I don't know this guy, but I'm a weight lifter and quite a bit bigger than that guy, minus the body fat. I biceps curl 132 with the barbell 8 reps 4 stints. ;)




Haha! Even I´m not on my best I can still bench press 397 pounds but I still wouldn´t face this guy in a ring, unless if I really really really really had to.  :D

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SweQue wrote...
As I said before, im not sexist at all, but I think women should be good-looking and have a nice rack.

NO. That's sexist.

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HJF4 wrote...

SweQue wrote...
As I said before, im not sexist at all, but I think women should be good-looking and have a nice rack.

NO. That's sexist.


It' s not sexist in terms of video game usage.

I dont understand why people seem to want to forget that men in video games arent represented accuratley as well, and im not talking about the muscle- bound maniacs like people from Gears of War, im talking about something simple like Mass Effect, most guys would like to have Shepard's build, thats not an average build. Alot of guys would Like default male hawkes build, that' s not an average build either.  The difference is, Guy' s dont whine about it, nobody' s up in arms about the lack of skinny or fat male representations, nor should we be.  No matter what the Female character builds are, Females will inevevitably be unhappy with it because of "inaccuracy".   and dont pile on me with the sexist BS because I just told the truth.

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SweQue wrote...

As I said before, im not sexist at all, but I think women should be good-looking and have a nice rack. That doesnt mean the woman can be chubby, that isnt fun to look at.
I mean, nobody want another Aveline. Also, my friends gf got a boob job, so its more common then we think. And if we can do it today with surgeons, so could mages with magic.


Wow, I've read some ***hole comments on the BSN but this one takes the cake.

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SweQue wrote...

As I said before, im not sexist at all, but I think women should be good-looking and have a nice rack. That doesnt mean the woman can be chubby, that isnt fun to look at.
I mean, nobody want another Aveline. Also, my friends gf got a boob job, so its more common then we think. And if we can do it today with surgeons, so could mages with magic.


You're either sexist or a troll. Either way:

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SweQue wrote...

I mean, nobody want another Aveline. 


Who is this ''nobody'' you speak of? Thats an odd name you know.
(This totally reminds me of Odysseus adventures, the story about the cyclops.)

I liked Aveline and I'm glad that Bioware didn't make yet another of those stereotypical waving long hair catwalk model warriors, I'm so sick of that.

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Also all the menfolk's right/left arm should be SIGNIFICANTLY bigger than the other one because they play with their swords so often.

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Annie_Dear wrote...
Also, my friends gf got a boob job, so its more common then we think. And if we can do it today with surgeons, so could mages with magic.


I like this line of thinking. What a great employment opprotunity for mages.

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*looks at this topic expecting to see armor concepts, or you know something realistic.....*

SWEEET FOOK'N JESUS MIKE TYSON IS IN HERE WEARING WOMEN AS SKIN SUITS AGAIN!

MY EYES! MY EYES!!

Oh if only I could find that one bad picture to share here lulz.

Also its as Mr Swagger said. I've fought plenty of men and women. Most women in terms of combat ability go for speed and flexability over brawn and tone. And could be dangerous if you looked down on them. I never made that mistake on the mat, but many men do.

Remember its the small quite bastards you need to keep an eye on. Be it men or women.

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ReconTeam wrote...

Annie_Dear wrote...
Also, my friends gf got a boob job, so its more common then we think. And if we can do it today with surgeons, so could mages with magic.


I like this line of thinking. What a great employment opprotunity for mages.


"Perhaps it is a magical bosom?" :lol:

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renjility wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Annie_Dear wrote...
Also, my friends gf got a boob job, so its more common then we think. And if we can do it today with surgeons, so could mages with magic.


I like this line of thinking. What a great employment opprotunity for mages.


"Perhaps it is a magical bosom?" :lol:


It´s mentioned in the Witcher books. Mages use magic to make themselves more attractive, or for corrective surgery. Geralt´s LI was a hunchback before she was found.

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I was talking about women in-game,  I dont want them to be fat or ugly like that Aveline chic in DA2.

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Need bigger pillows for the sake of having bigger pillows. :|

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HJF4 wrote...

SweQue wrote...
As I said before, im not sexist at all, but I think women should be good-looking and have a nice rack.

NO. That's sexist.


As long as they're good looking and have a nice rack.