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[JewelsWinnfield]

nicethugbert wrote...

Hendrix137 wrote...
Also, I don't see how you can put "fun" and "Rio farming" in the same sentence post...

That means nothing to the people who are having fun Rio farming.  It's just your opinion.  Why should they care?

You do realize that this is most likely an excuse for Rio farmers who don't want to admit that Platinum is too hard for them, right? People don't play Rio for fun, they do it to get the easy credits. Maybe there is one in a thousand players who truly enjoys sitting in that box for half an hour over and over again.

People always demand more maps, more gamemodes, more characters, more powers, more everything, but in the end the majority of people just play on the same map with the same characters using the same cheap technique over and over again, because they're afraid or too lazy to learn something new...

As I said, there is no reason for a player who is competent enough to play Platinum to use this farming technique.

[nicethugbert]

Hendrix137 wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

Hendrix137 wrote...
Also, I don't see how you can put "fun" and "Rio farming" in the same sentence post...

That means nothing to the people who are having fun Rio farming.  It's just your opinion.  Why should they care?

You do realize that this is most likely an excuse for Rio farmers who don't want to admit that Platinum is too hard for them, right? People don't play Rio for fun, they do it to get the easy credits. Maybe there is one in a thousand players who truly enjoys sitting in that box for half an hour over and over again.

People always demand more maps, more gamemodes, more characters, more powers, more everything, but in the end the majority of people just play on the same map with the same characters using the same cheap technique over and over again, because they're afraid or too lazy to learn something new...

As I said, there is no reason for a player who is competent enough to play Platinum to use this farming technique.

Whatever.  No one has to spend their time as you see fit or give a damn about your opinion.  Get over yourself.

[FlowCytometry]

All the more reason to refine the search feature to allow type exclusions (in this case, non-Rio Plat); won't fix the issue of there not being enough non-farm Plat lobbies in comparison, but it'd help.

[JewelsWinnfield]

nicethugbert wrote...

Whatever.  No one has to spend their time as you see fit or give a damn about your opinion.  Get over yourself.

"Whatever" is always a very elaborate response. Why do you even post if you have nothing to say?

This is a forum, the point of it is to discuss things and share opinions...

[Blarg]

By the goddess, this thread is still going?

BSN argues too much.

[JaimasOfRaxis]

Sulaco_7 wrote...

Just because you can't report it doesn't mean it's a small glitch.  Hiding in a box and preventing banshees from getting you lowers the difficulty significantly vs the other maps on platinum.    

And just because people will find another way to camp doesn't mean the devs shouldn't fix exploits that currently exist. 

Why do people NOT want an exploit to be fixed?  If people find another way to camp, more power to them.   Fixing exploits is always a good thing.

Because this isn't an exploit. If they didn't want people hiding in the boxes (and there's actually many boxes, all of which offer synckill-immunity from large-units-only, and literally no other tactical benefit), they wouldn't have included so goddamned many of them. You act like this is on-part with Hydra map exploits or Condor Plateau exploits.

As for not wanting them to fix it, it's three-fold:
1. It's intentional due to the map design. Considering how much artificial difficulty the game throws at veteran players, There's no problem in this. It's worth noting that Rio has almost a dozen such cubby-holes. If they weren't intentional, they would not have been included.
2. It contains the threat. Players using this are less-likely to resort to nonsense like missile glitching, and leave the rest of the metagame for those of us liking to solo gold like a boss to our work. It means less for everyone else to have to worry about.
3. The only thing "fixing" this will do is result in a temporary swarm of displaced PuGgers who will wind up in games they don't belong in, before the next "big farming spot" is uncovered. As someone who remembers the raging storm of idiocy that raged about the PuGs the last time we "fixed" a map, I'm not in a hurry to wind up in party after party of players who only know how to fight a specific way on a specific map.

You look at these and see "acceptable losses." I look at these and see "we're going to be back here in three months whilst the playerbase continues to hemorrhage like it did after the first round of cuts." 

But feel free to disagree if you want.

[STRANGE10VE]

Removing an intended mechanic of the game, sync kills, by sitting in the box of shame or behind a counter in FBW is an exploit. Just like FBW, Rio will be fixed sooner or later.

[staindgrey]

Rio farming isn't even remotely as common in matchmaking as FBW and FBGl was pre-patch. I'm fine with it being an easy alternative.

[XTR3M3]

It makes me laugh how many people are SO worried whether or not some random other player is farming or not. who gives a sh*t. let them farm. it is not hurting anyone.

[nicethugbert]

Hendrix137 wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

Whatever.  No one has to spend their time as you see fit or give a damn about your opinion.  Get over yourself.

"Whatever" is always a very elaborate response. Why do you even post if you have nothing to say?

This is a forum, the point of it is to discuss things and share opinions...

OK, here is an eleaborate concept for you:  Freedom.

[Arctican]

Yah freedom from dropping into Rio Reapers even when searching for other maps and other enemies.

[Invader Nemesis]

blaaaaaaaaaarg wrote...

By the goddess, this thread is still going?

BSN argues too much.

Nah...we need more flame wars.

[billy7768]

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Then people would move onto Condor/Collector.

I see what you did there.

[Revrant]

Yes, more "fix things that will never affect me" because we have to step all over other people.

Nevermind the bugs nad other legitimate issues.

[Janus382]

I've been seeing this on Gold lately. Not often enough to be a problem, but I get dropped into RRG once or twice a day, and see a blue blob of people in a crate.

Only reason the box of shame is so popular is because it negates sync kills, which is cheap, and probably wasn't an intended function of the box. So, make the opening bigger, or do whatever else that will allow Banshees (etc) to sync kill there. If that can't be done, then close'em up.

Modifié par Janus382, 07 janvier 2013 - 04:49 .

[Wsip79]

Leave box alone!



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[Psylis]

Only reason the box of shame is so popular is because it negates sync kills, which is cheap, and probably wasn't an intended function of the box. So, make the opening bigger, or do whatever else that will allow Banshees (etc) to sync kill there. If that can't be done, then close'em up.

Synch kill suck.  Staying in gold knowing there's a plat mode sucks as well.  When I started out on gold, I did FBW till I got better equipment.  Now I run gold anything.  I've run other maps on Plat since then, but some times it's nice to catch a breather, and still get a big payout.  And I agree...closing that box off would be the end all to that map, but at least it's offset by pizza deliveries and escorts from one end to the next. (FBW at one point only had targets and stealth missions.)

[Anduin The Grey]

Janus382 wrote...

I've been seeing this on Gold lately. Not often enough to be a problem, but I get dropped into RRG once or twice a day, and see a blue blob of people in a crate.

Only reason the box of shame is so popular is because it negates sync kills, which is cheap, and probably wasn't an intended function of the box. So, make the opening bigger, or do whatever else that will allow Banshees (etc) to sync kill there. If that can't be done, then close'em up.

Phantoms, the worst sync killers of them all.

[Liefglinde]

Yeah and then let's make every map a different color circle with one ammo box in the middle with no cover and completely random spawn points. And make the ground lava.

Honestly, guys. Let people play how they want to play.

[Mindlog]

Let Atlases, Banshees, Brutes, Praetorians, Primes and Scions pick up the boxes and throw them in the river. Mass permadeath.

[nicethugbert]

Arctican wrote...

Yah freedom from dropping into Rio Reapers even when searching for other maps and other enemies.

So, instead of making the search function work, spoil someone elses fun, classy!

[ArcaptSSX]

FlowCytometry wrote...

All the more reason to refine the search feature to allow type exclusions (in this case, non-Rio Plat); won't fix the issue of there not being enough non-farm Plat lobbies in comparison, but it'd help.

It could fix it. There aren't so many plat players, the problem is more that we have to find each other and farming games can completely forbid it.
There's even a simpler solution than a true search interface, without even compromising the current interface: distinguish between "Whatever" and "Random" map&faction. Right now they're all thrown into the same "Unknown" category, which is wrong, and will be an issue on any new farming map after a probable Rio patching in the upcoming DLC.

Another farming map will always pop up eventually, so the non-farming players will always get penalized for that, a problem which will be emphasized as the playerbase shrinks over time.

[Arctican]

nicethugbert wrote...

Arctican wrote...

Yah freedom from dropping into Rio Reapers even when searching for other maps and other enemies.

So, instead of making the search function work, spoil someone elses fun, classy!

Oh, I'm all for a map/faction veto function if they can put it in. Anything so that platinum PUG players don't have to waste time trying to find a game or go through 40 minutes of waiting for that Atlas to get it's ass over to the box. Its already hard enough with missile glitchers roaming around. 

[HinDae]

doozerdude wrote...

Why? I really don't get it...

WAAAAH STORE SUCKS IMA KILL MYSELF

WTF FARMING THATS SO CHEAP

One or the other BSN

This.

And OP, so what if people farm? when theres nothing left to farm and they creep into the sunlight of standard runs on UUG or whatever, theyre utter dogs***, and ALL the shiny things they grinded dont mean anything.