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[Yate]

Focus on things that are actually IMPORTANT, like how to stop the store from stealing my credits.

[Invader Nemesis]

Original Stikman wrote...

What i don't understand is how it is so popular. I can't imagine more than half get decent enough objectives to be able to actually complete them. Sure, you can survive a wave, but can you survive a center hack? What about those long ass pizza deliveries?

Since everyone except for me was in the box of shame it took twice as long. I felt like I was trying to solo. They leave the box for objectives. Sometimes they make it sometimes they don't.

[PinchLion]

STRANGE10VE wrote...

If they remove the ammo, farmers will just bring demolisher/PPR. Seal the box like glacier.

That could be considered a valid tactic though. Maybe bosses can be made able to grab you in the box?

[Invader Nemesis]

STRANGE10VE wrote...

If they remove the ammo, farmers will just bring demolisher/PPR. Seal the box like glacier.

An even better suggestion. Thank you.

[SlimJim0725]

Yate wrote...

Focus on things that are actually IMPORTANT, like how to stop the store from stealing my credits.

Xbox master race has no such issue, so it is not important.

[Uh Cold]

Yate wrote...

how to fix Rio farming:

Don't. There's always going to be some corner of some map that's easy to camp in if you bring the right kit. Just don't bother.

Well the point is to make it difficult no matter where you post up which hopefully will result in those players realizing that if they just played normally they could do it faster and you know actually play the game instead of going into zombie farm mode.

Nothing wrong with farming but when it takes away from the difficulty for the sake of credits it should be fixed.

[InArts]

Paradise Ablaze wrote...

That could be considered a valid tactic though. Maybe bosses can be made able to grab you in the box?

Quick, someone necro all the Magnet Hand whine threads!

[TheKillerAngel]

Several months ago, I predicted it would turn into the new Firebase White Geth Gold.

trololol

[CrutchCricket]

Who the hell cares?

[Mindlog]

possessed swarmers

[Uh Cold]

Mindlog wrote...

possessed swarmers

My rockets are ready.

[Original Twigman]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Who the hell cares?

when i see responses like these, i pretty much assume that the person sits in the box of shame...

you'll see the same responses for missile glitching, which usually means they are a missile glticher

[STRANGE10VE]

It"s easy to camp that side of Rio without entering the box of shame. Not really what I call fun but at least it isn't so cheesy.

[Pottumuusi]

No no no... don't remove the ammo box. The logical solution is to buff the reapers.
I suggest adding stagger to Marauder fire and extending Banshee grab range by 5 meters.
Brutes could use some shoulder mounted Phantom hand cannons as well.

One more thing; make their grenades tracking.

Modifié par Pottumuusi, 05 janvier 2013 - 10:35 .

[Arctican]

Rio Farming is not as broken as the old FBWWG TBH. It's a 40 minutes affair with a high chance people really messing up on the objective waves.

If they have to fix it, they just need to move the ammo box outside and seal the boxes. I hate to see the boxes sealed up since they do provide a nice retreat for a few seconds to get your shields back if you play Rio rambo style.

[Scam_poo]

targaryen8 wrote...

Although I don't do it, there's nothing wrong with farming. What Bioware hates is camping.

It's not like farming and camping is just about the same thing. Especially on Rio/Reaper/Platinum.

[RB26D3TT]

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Remove the ammo crate from the box of shame. An even simplier fix than Firebase White I'm sure.

*Consider this for balance changes plz biowere

This so called box of shame got me Rio Platinum Mastery twice, so I wouldn't like that. Why do you even care? If you are jealous of people making credits, play yourself instead of making rubbish threads.

[Rotacioskapa]

They said in an interview that they will add hazard versions of Earth maps. I would be surprised, if they didn't change base Rio too.

[JaimasOfRaxis]

This has nothing to do with farming or camping and everything to do with artificially-increasing difficulty so people buy magic space points. To writ:

> Store system runs on troll logic, actively avoids giving players anything they might actually want
> Better players get their game on and quickly realize that there's weaknesses in the enemy factions to exploit
> Gold became viable for fighting Geth on every map once players realized that Geth lacked Synckills and Grenades
> Geth were buffed to current stunlock-happy state due to this
> Players figured: "Hey, still don't have grenades or synckills, so it beats being telefragged or dealing with Phantom spam"
> Firebase White becomes the de facto camping map due to horrid pathfinding of enemies
> Firebase Glacier becomes the de facto speedrun map due to small size and relatively controllable spawns
> New maps introduced; have poor objective positions and benefit enemies more than playerbase; are also buggy; Bioware then genuinely surprised when the playerbase actively avoids them
> FBWGG becomes the standard for credit farming, offering the most benefit for least time and risk involved
> Useless idiots scream bloody murder about FBWGG games, despite the fact that nobody's putting a gun to their head and forcing them to farm credits
> Fixes later buff enemies further; nerf the most-actively-winning classes in the metagame, whilst no attempt is made whatsoever to fix underperforming classes/weapons beyond incremental buffs and token fixes
> Platinum arrives; FBWGP is now the new standard for earning credits
> A Dev who, for their protection, will remain nameless is quoting as saying that someone who doesn't have a maxed-out level 20 class and a maxed-out ultra rare weapon has no business playing Platinum, simultaneously proving how out-of-touch with the metagame they are and how skilled they feel the playerbase is
> Firebase Glacier becomes go-to map for Platinum Speedruns when it's discovered that a small room with no ammo box, no cover inside, and no means to escape it allows players to duck inside to funnel enemies into a firing line; this apparently RUINS EVERYTHING FOREVER, leading the playerbase condemning FBGGP and FBGGG as much as they condemn FBWGG/FBWGP
> Complaining about FBWGG/FBWGP hits a fever pitch prior to the patch
> Patch Hits
> Despite being a cover-based shooter, tons of cover-hate from enemies is added and areas that were popular spots to set up and fight the endless hordes from are nerfed
> Spawn system is utterly screwed up, resulting in what we have now
> Farmers momentarily given cause before buggering off to the new camp-spot maps; Giant, Ghost, Rio, Hydra
> People on BSN get the vapors that people are still trying to farm, ignoring the fact that the reason they are in the first place is because of the horrible store system and artificial difficulty
> We get threads like this one demanding that Rio lose the "Box of Shame" when the "Box" offers no cover whatsoever and offers as its only two benefits being an immunity to Banshee/Brute Synckills (and not even the damage therefrom!) and an ammo box
> Users smarter than the rest of the forum (Yates for example) roll their eyes in disgust

What exact problem does the "Box" cause? To hear everyone on this forum tell it, it's the second coming of the missile glitch, when in actuality it's a tiny little spot where players can duck into to avoid being grabkilled by Banshees, and... That's about it. Every other unit has no problems with the box whatsoever, can easily go inside and shoot you up/stomp you/stab you, and it doesn't even offer tangible cover, so the argument that it's on-par with the countertops on FBW flies in the face of all logic.

[Clayless]

Can't change it without a patch, it's not possible in balance changes.

[Invader Nemesis]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

This has nothing to do with farming or camping and everything to do with artificially-increasing difficulty so people buy magic space points. To writ:

> Store system runs on troll logic, actively avoids giving players anything they might actually want
> Better players get their game on and quickly realize that there's weaknesses in the enemy factions to exploit
> Gold became viable for fighting Geth on every map once players realized that Geth lacked Synckills and Grenades
> Geth were buffed to current stunlock-happy state due to this
> Players figured: "Hey, still don't have grenades or synckills, so it beats being telefragged or dealing with Phantom spam"
> Firebase White becomes the de facto camping map due to horrid pathfinding of enemies
> Firebase Glacier becomes the de facto speedrun map due to small size and relatively controllable spawns
> New maps introduced; have poor objective positions and benefit enemies more than playerbase; are also buggy; Bioware then genuinely surprised when the playerbase actively avoids them
> FBWGG becomes the standard for credit farming, offering the most benefit for least time and risk involved
> Useless idiots scream bloody murder about FBWGG games, despite the fact that nobody's putting a gun to their head and forcing them to farm credits
> Fixes later buff enemies further; nerf the most-actively-winning classes in the metagame, whilst no attempt is made whatsoever to fix underperforming classes/weapons beyond incremental buffs and token fixes
> Platinum arrives; FBWGP is now the new standard for earning credits
> A Dev who, for their protection, will remain nameless is quoting as saying that someone who doesn't have a maxed-out level 20 class and a maxed-out ultra rare weapon has no business playing Platinum, simultaneously proving how out-of-touch with the metagame they are and how skilled they feel the playerbase is
> Firebase Glacier becomes go-to map for Platinum Speedruns when it's discovered that a small room with no ammo box, no cover inside, and no means to escape it allows players to duck inside to funnel enemies into a firing line; this apparently RUINS EVERYTHING FOREVER, leading the playerbase condemning FBGGP and FBGGG as much as they condemn FBWGG/FBWGP
> Complaining about FBWGG/FBWGP hits a fever pitch prior to the patch
> Patch Hits
> Despite being a cover-based shooter, tons of cover-hate from enemies is added and areas that were popular spots to set up and fight the endless hordes from are nerfed
> Spawn system is utterly screwed up, resulting in what we have now
> Farmers momentarily given cause before buggering off to the new camp-spot maps; Giant, Ghost, Rio, Hydra
> People on BSN get the vapors that people are still trying to farm, ignoring the fact that the reason they are in the first place is because of the horrible store system and artificial difficulty
> We get threads like this one demanding that Rio lose the "Box of Shame" when the "Box" offers no cover whatsoever and offers as its only two benefits being an immunity to Banshee/Brute Synckills (and not even the damage therefrom!) and an ammo box
> Users smarter than the rest of the forum (Yates for example) roll their eyes in disgust

What exact problem does the "Box" cause? To hear everyone on this forum tell it, it's the second coming of the missile glitch, when in actuality it's a tiny little spot where players can duck into to avoid being grabkilled by Banshees, and... That's about it. Every other unit has no problems with the box whatsoever, can easily go inside and shoot you up/stomp you/stab you, and it doesn't even offer tangible cover, so the argument that it's on-par with the countertops on FBW flies in the face of all logic.

China, called they want their wall back.

[Arctican]

RB26D3TT wrote...

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Remove the ammo crate from the box of shame. An even simplier fix than Firebase White I'm sure.

*Consider this for balance changes plz biowere

This so called box of shame got me Rio Platinum Mastery twice, so I wouldn't like that. Why do you even care? If you are jealous of people making credits, play yourself instead of making rubbish threads.

I can't speak for her, but I suspect landing into a FBRRP 9 out of 10 games while searching for UUP has largely to do with that. That was my beef with the old FBWGG at least. 

[Invader Nemesis]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Can't change it without a patch, it's not possible in balance changes.

Patch/ balance changes...eh I'm just saying they need to fix it.

[Sulaco_7]

Yes, they should seal ALL the boxes on that map. Removing the ammo crate won't really correct the problem. Unfortunately, they can't do this in a weekly balance change.

Like someone else said though, Rio isn't the biggest problem of platinum pugs. Missile glitching is.. and I don't think this will ever get fixed since they will not release another patch for this game.