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[L. Han]

A longer ammo/grenade recharge rate in the box would be a more gentle way of "dealing" with this "issue".

[Athanis]

Farming is going to happen. I took advantage of White for a few hours a week pre-change, outside of many hours playing PUS and the odd PUG, to try and wade through the mountain of unwanted character cards and random crap that the RNG is designed to throw down upon us. It was a trade-off for anyone who did it and I imagine the Rio farming is the same. Boredom for credits to feed a harsh system.

If BW change Rio to deter farmers then so be it. They'll find somewhere else to farm, as many above noted and you'll whine again. Learn to live with it, enjoy the credits and hold back a moment and think of those of us who slog through PUG's, PUS' and the odd Platinum without your, assumedly Godlike abilities and reflexes.

/rant.

[Invader Nemesis]

Arctican wrote...

RB26D3TT wrote...

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Remove the ammo crate from the box of shame. An even simplier fix than Firebase White I'm sure.

*Consider this for balance changes plz biowere

This so called box of shame got me Rio Platinum Mastery twice, so I wouldn't like that. Why do you even care?f you are jealous of people making credits I, play yourself instead of making rubbish threads.

*snip

Did you really just admit that? Dude.....that is just....LAME.

I hope you are trolling

[Sulaco_7]

Athanis wrote...

Farming is going to happen. I took advantage of White for a few hours a week pre-change, outside of many hours playing PUS and the odd PUG, to try and wade through the mountain of unwanted character cards and random crap that the RNG is designed to throw down upon us. It was a trade-off for anyone who did it and I imagine the Rio farming is the same. Boredom for credits to feed a harsh system.

If BW change Rio to deter farmers then so be it. They'll find somewhere else to farm, as many above noted and you'll whine again. Learn to live with it, enjoy the credits and hold back a moment and think of those of us who slog through PUG's, PUS' and the odd Platinum without your, assumedly Godlike abilities and reflexes.

/rant.

I have no problem with "legal" farming / camping.  Yes, not everyone has the skills or the weapons to rambo it on platinum.  However, the camping on Rio uses an exploit that prevents bosses from getting you.  To me, that's not right. 

[oVoSoDo]

RB26D3TT wrote...

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Remove the ammo crate from the box of shame. An even simplier fix than Firebase White I'm sure.

*Consider this for balance changes plz biowere

This so called box of shame got me Rio Platinum Mastery twice, so I wouldn't like that. Why do you even care? If you are jealous of people making credits, play yourself instead of making rubbish threads.

I noticed people on this forum really like to tell others how to play. What I don't understand is this: most of the people posting these kind of threads say they they avoid pugs like the plague because pugs are bad, they only play with friends, so how do they even know about Rio platinum farming, and why do they care?
As far as I'm concerned, I play Rio because it's the only plat match where I won't get xxx because of my low N7 and crappy weapons. 

[Black Phantom]

How elitist of you.

[Athanis]

Yes, tis' an exploit.

Then again, long-range Banshee grabs, Dragoon gang-bangs, buggy controls/ powers/ server connection/ UI issues/ Store issues and the RNG compel me to not care.

It's a coincidence that this thread pops up tonight- I stood with a Volus last night in that same box, (not knowing at the time that it was the Box de No Grabs!), taking a breather from the barrage of Banshee's and Marauders. Still took damage, still needed his shield boost...

And lo, my powers simultaneously locked. Heavy melee unlocked them, of course but... Exploit vs Unfixed bug= no clear winner...?

Modifié par Athanis, 05 janvier 2013 - 11:09 .

[Ser Pounce A Lot_]

Who cares really.

Most PUGs are really bad for platinum anyway, IMO you should only play that level regularly with friends or friend of friends.

This wouldn't really be a problem then.

Modifié par Ser Pounce A Lot , 05 janvier 2013 - 11:12 .

[HolyAvenger]

I farm Glacier with friends. Fast money.

I want them to fix Rio so I can search Plat PUGs. Frustrating to always end up with the same map/enemy combo.

[Invader Nemesis]

Ashen Earth wrote...

How elitist of you.

L2P or GTFO

[FasterThanFTL]

The map has the hardest objectives, it is fixed by default. 30-40 minute runs is a lot of hard work so they deserve their money if they can survive till the end. Besides doing 2 Gold matches is a better choice.

[Biotic_Warlock]

I admit i played rio farming. I had fun by attacking all the enemies outside the crates as my shadow

It felt like doing a solo silver at one point. Phantoms and Marauders all for me... free shields for me if that phantom manages to give me a ninja slash.

Modifié par Biotic_Warlock, 05 janvier 2013 - 11:47 .

[upinya slayin]

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

You trying to blow up BSN yet again? You know that Platinum can not be beat any other way!

Apparently neither can gold <_<

(Not this time...I'm being a good girl INVADER :innocent:)

fixed 

[RB26D3TT]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

This has nothing to do with farming or camping and everything to do with artificially-increasing difficulty so people buy magic space points. To writ:

> Store system runs on troll logic, actively avoids giving players anything they might actually want
> Better players get their game on and quickly realize that there's weaknesses in the enemy factions to exploit
> Gold became viable for fighting Geth on every map once players realized that Geth lacked Synckills and Grenades
> Geth were buffed to current stunlock-happy state due to this
> Players figured: "Hey, still don't have grenades or synckills, so it beats being telefragged or dealing with Phantom spam"
> Firebase White becomes the de facto camping map due to horrid pathfinding of enemies
> Firebase Glacier becomes the de facto speedrun map due to small size and relatively controllable spawns
> New maps introduced; have poor objective positions and benefit enemies more than playerbase; are also buggy; Bioware then genuinely surprised when the playerbase actively avoids them
> FBWGG becomes the standard for credit farming, offering the most benefit for least time and risk involved
> Useless idiots scream bloody murder about FBWGG games, despite the fact that nobody's putting a gun to their head and forcing them to farm credits
> Fixes later buff enemies further; nerf the most-actively-winning classes in the metagame, whilst no attempt is made whatsoever to fix underperforming classes/weapons beyond incremental buffs and token fixes
> Platinum arrives; FBWGP is now the new standard for earning credits
> A Dev who, for their protection, will remain nameless is quoting as saying that someone who doesn't have a maxed-out level 20 class and a maxed-out ultra rare weapon has no business playing Platinum, simultaneously proving how out-of-touch with the metagame they are and how skilled they feel the playerbase is
> Firebase Glacier becomes go-to map for Platinum Speedruns when it's discovered that a small room with no ammo box, no cover inside, and no means to escape it allows players to duck inside to funnel enemies into a firing line; this apparently RUINS EVERYTHING FOREVER, leading the playerbase condemning FBGGP and FBGGG as much as they condemn FBWGG/FBWGP
> Complaining about FBWGG/FBWGP hits a fever pitch prior to the patch
> Patch Hits
> Despite being a cover-based shooter, tons of cover-hate from enemies is added and areas that were popular spots to set up and fight the endless hordes from are nerfed
> Spawn system is utterly screwed up, resulting in what we have now
> Farmers momentarily given cause before buggering off to the new camp-spot maps; Giant, Ghost, Rio, Hydra
> People on BSN get the vapors that people are still trying to farm, ignoring the fact that the reason they are in the first place is because of the horrible store system and artificial difficulty
> We get threads like this one demanding that Rio lose the "Box of Shame" when the "Box" offers no cover whatsoever and offers as its only two benefits being an immunity to Banshee/Brute Synckills (and not even the damage therefrom!) and an ammo box
> Users smarter than the rest of the forum (Yates for example) roll their eyes in disgust

What exact problem does the "Box" cause? To hear everyone on this forum tell it, it's the second coming of the missile glitch, when in actuality it's a tiny little spot where players can duck into to avoid being grabkilled by Banshees, and... That's about it. Every other unit has no problems with the box whatsoever, can easily go inside and shoot you up/stomp you/stab you, and it doesn't even offer tangible cover, so the argument that it's on-par with the countertops on FBW flies in the face of all logic.

[JaimasOfRaxis]

Protip: If they remove the "box of shame," expect players to use new farming spots on Giant, Hydra, and Reactor as the community learns about the cubby of doom ™, Hallway of Infinite Lulz ™, and Invulnerable Doomcrate Stack ™. The synckill immunity won't be there, but the ability to funnel enemies will be, and rest assured, it will be used relentlessly and with neither remorse nor restraint.

Details of any of these available via PM.

Modifié par JaimasOfRaxis, 06 janvier 2013 - 12:16 .

[RB26D3TT]

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Arctican wrote...

RB26D3TT wrote...

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Remove the ammo crate from the box of shame. An even simplier fix than Firebase White I'm sure.

*Consider this for balance changes plz biowere

This so called box of shame got me Rio Platinum Mastery twice, so I wouldn't like that. Why do you even care?f you are jealous of people making credits I, play yourself instead of making rubbish threads.

*snip

Did you really just admit that? Dude.....that is just....LAME.

I hope you are trolling

What's the big deal anyway? It was my only platinum mastery in Map mastery.
P. S. Admitting the truth is not lame. Making crappy threads is.
P. P. S. You haven't answered a question. Why do you give a crap?

Modifié par RB26D3TT, 06 janvier 2013 - 12:19 .

[CrutchCricket]

Original Stikman wrote...
when i see responses like these, i pretty much assume that the person sits in the box of shame...

you'll see the same responses for missile glitching, which usually means they are a missile glticher

Because it takes a noob or a missle glitcher to call you out on self-righteous ignorance, right?

[Nissun]

I kinda like the boxes, I would hate for them to be completely closed off.

In any event, the only actual benefit it has is Banshee protection. If you can kill them before they get to you, you don't even need the crate. I've played Rio and I like holding the line on that area of the map, and it makes playing with demolishers really hilarious. But I don't think this is nowhere near the level of firebase white's geth cover-grab conga.


If they really, REALLY think this is as widespread as FBWGG was, and really, REALLY feel this needs to be fixed, I hope they just make the boxes a bit taller to let banshee's in (or fix the instakill so that it works).

[Invader Nemesis]

RB26D3TT wrote...

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Arctican wrote...

RB26D3TT wrote...

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Remove the ammo crate from the box of shame. An even simplier fix than Firebase White I'm sure.

*Consider this for balance changes plz biowere

This so called box of shame got me Rio Platinum Mastery twice, so I wouldn't like that. Why do you even care?f you are jealous of people making credits I, play yourself instead of making rubbish threads.

*snip

Did you really just admit that? Dude.....that is just....LAME.

I hope you are trolling

What's the big deal anyway? It was my only platinum mastery in Map mastery.
P. S. Admitting the truth is not lame. Making crappy threads is.
P. P. S. You haven't answered a question. Why do you give a rats ass?

Why do I give a rats ass? Because its annoying and its cheap. Also if I wanted to go for my solo mastery I'm gonna do it like a real gamer and not use some cheat or exploit just to get a stupid f*cking banner that no one is really going to give a sh*t about.

If I were you I would never admit to that level of cheapness.

[Invader Nemesis]

upinya slayin wrote...

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

You trying to blow up BSN yet again? You know that Platinum can not be beat any other way!

Apparently neither can gold <_<

(Not this time...I'm being a good girl INVADER little 12 year old boy :innocent:)

fixed 

Double fixed

[CrimsonN7]

But, but it's cosy in there Nemy!

I will not hear another bad word about the box!

[GriM_AoD]

Here's an amusing alternative.
Operation - I heard you like boxes, so I put a box inside your box.

Put a box [crate(s) of some description] inside the box so that players are bloacked from going in and bring the ammo out, rested against the new box.
Oh and the box dans le box should have the the word 'shame' somewhere on it - preferably above the relocated ammo.

Modifié par GriM_AoD, 06 janvier 2013 - 12:33 .

[lynch108]

Pottumuusi wrote...

No no no... don't remove the ammo box. The logical solution is to buff the reapers.
I suggest adding stagger to Marauder fire and extending Banshee grab range by 5 meters.
Brutes could use some shoulder mounted Phantom hand cannons as well.

One more thing; make their grenades tracking.

I think the brutes should actually be ridden by phantoms cavalry style.

[Invader Nemesis]

GriM_AoD wrote...

Here's an amusing alternative.
Operation - I heard you like boxes, so I put a box inside your box.

Put a box [crate(s) of some description] inside the box so that players are bloacked from going in and bring the ammo out, rested against the new box.
Oh and the box dans le box should have the the word 'shame' somewhere on it - preferably above the relocated ammo.