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Smash - It sucks

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Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 09:58

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Compared to Biotic Slash 

Smash: 

Only 8 meter range and cannot be extented compared to 20 meters that can be extended to 30 

Only 1.5 meters wide compared to 2 meters

Does LESS damage if you don't take the Barriers and Armor evo, but you have to forgo radius and more targets hit for it and the targets are limited to 2. It can't even one shot a bunch of swarmers.  

Phantoms block it all the time. So you risk going to that range and they freaking block it! 

The animation is absurdly long. You can roll in the mid-way of it, but still it's freaking long. No invicibility frames

Has the same CD as the Biotic Slash 

My suggestions - at LEAST 10-12 meter range, at LEAST 2 meters wide, unlimited number of targets hit, and it should stagger everyone who touches you in the beggining of the animation when you drop your whips to the ground. Dragoon whips do that. 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 05 janvier 2013 - 11:15 .

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Hellfire257
Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 09:59

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Hellfire257 [Smash] Swarmer
Hellfire257 [Smash] Swarmer

**** this ****.

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doozerdude
Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 09:59

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No
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EDIT:

Yes
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Modifié par doozerdude, 05 janvier 2013 - 10:00 .

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BurningLiquor
Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:00

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No. Just no.

#5
MP-Ryan
Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:00

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Smash would be great if we had the same version as the &%$#ing Dragoons. I had forgotten how ridiculous they are on Platinum.

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Ledgend1221
Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:00

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Nope.
It's fine.

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Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:01

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Great comments. Strong arguments.

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Bhatair
Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:01

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It's limited, yeah but I'd hardly say it sucks.

Don't use it on phantoms, for phantoms use singularity, they'll pop their bubble and stand in it allowing you to shoot them and strip their barrier, when their barrier is down they'll be lifted + lash to detonate = dead phantom. You can smash them but only through walls so they don't have LOS to use their bubble.

Though I'll agree that it does have drawbacks it far from sucks.

Against ravagers you have to plant a singularity first, that will kill the swarmers that drop out and let smash hit the ravager, plus it will prime for a BE anyway.

Modifié par Bhatair, 05 janvier 2013 - 10:02 .

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Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:01

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Air Quotes wrote...

Great comments. Strong arguments.


Inorite?

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Hellfire257
Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:02

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Seriously, that 2 target limit is beyond the joke. You may as well not bother using smash on a ravager half the time because all you kill are swarmers.

Modifié par Hellfire257, 05 janvier 2013 - 10:02 .

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Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:02

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Bhatair wrote...

It's limited, yeah but I'd hardly say it sucks.

Don't use it on phantoms, for phantoms use singularity, they'll pop their bubble and stand in it allowing you to shoot them and strip their barrier, when their barrier is down they'll be lifted + lash to detonate = dead phantom. You can smash them but only through walls so they don't have LOS to use their bubble.

Though I'll agree that it does have drawbacks it far from sucks.

 

I don't have a freaking singularity. I have Charge. And I want to follow up wiith a strong attack. Which gets blocked.  

It sucks COMPARED to Biotic Slash. 

 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 05 janvier 2013 - 10:02 .

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Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:03

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Air Quotes wrote...

Great comments. Strong arguments.

It goes through walls.
It goes with BC and singularity nicely.
It does massive damage.

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Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:03

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Hellfire257 wrote...

Seriously, that 2 target limit is beyond the joke. You may as well not bother using smash on a ravager half the time because all you kill are swarmers.

 

It's 2 targets not 3? WTF? 

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Bhatair
Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:03

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The cooldown reversion hit the Smashguard hard, yeah. If I had realized you were talking about him I'd have to agree :P
I never play the smashguard though, just the adept.

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Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:03

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Ledgend1221 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Great comments. Strong arguments.

It goes through walls.
It goes with BC and singularity nicely.
It does massive damage.

 

Biotic Slash does all that. With 20 meters range minimum. 

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Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:04

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You're just doing it wrong.

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Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:04

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Air Quotes wrote...

Hellfire257 wrote...

Seriously, that 2 target limit is beyond the joke. You may as well not bother using smash on a ravager half the time because all you kill are swarmers.

 

It's 2 targets not 3? WTF? 


Its initial target limit is 2. It increases to 3 with the rank 6 radius evo.

#18
Karstedt
Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:05

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It's a good power... but you do have to watch out for phantoms. Best used through walls, which is kinda lame, but oh well.

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Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:06

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Air Quotes wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Great comments. Strong arguments.

It goes through walls.
It goes with BC and singularity nicely.
It does massive damage.

 

Biotic Slash does all that. With 20 meters range minimum. 

Then play the SV then and leave the smashing to the smashers.

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Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:06

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BurningLiquor wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Hellfire257 wrote...

Seriously, that 2 target limit is beyond the joke. You may as well not bother using smash on a ravager half the time because all you kill are swarmers.

 

It's 2 targets not 3? WTF? 


Its initial target limit is 2. It increases to 3 with the rank 6 radius evo.

 

That SUCKS so hard. So you have to drop 75% damage to barriers and armor to hit 3 targets? What a load of garbage. 

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HolyAvenger
Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:07

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I don't think it sucks, though i'm not against a buff.

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Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:07

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Air Quotes wrote...

BurningLiquor wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Hellfire257 wrote...

Seriously, that 2 target limit is beyond the joke. You may as well not bother using smash on a ravager half the time because all you kill are swarmers.

 

It's 2 targets not 3? WTF? 


Its initial target limit is 2. It increases to 3 with the rank 6 radius evo.

 

That SUCKS so hard. So you have to drop 75% damage to barriers and armor to hit 3 targets? What a load of garbage. 


Yes. If you want to hit 3 targets you have to sacrifice the damage evo. 

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Fortack
Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:07

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It makes the screen shake, so yeah it sucks.

#24
Uh Cold
Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:07

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IT OP

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Posté 05 janvier 2013 - 10:07

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Ledgend1221 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Great comments. Strong arguments.

It goes through walls.
It goes with BC and singularity nicely.
It does massive damage.

 

Biotic Slash does all that. With 20 meters range minimum. 

Then play the SV then and leave the smashing to the smashers.

 

Laughable argument. Biotic Slash does more damage with a greater range. What's hard to understand? 
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