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[Poison_Berrie]

stysiaq wrote...

you sure? I was asking about Biotic Slash...

Slash has max 3 targets (like most powers).

[Alien Number Six]

I don't even use the Phoenix Adept because of Smash.

[MP-Ryan]

xsdob wrote...

Of course smash is not as good as biotic slash, they're two different types of powers. That's like me saying "- Ballistic Blades - It sucks"(Compared to flamer)

Compare smash to it's more similar power, nova, and than let's see the results.

Nova has invincibility frames and a a player equally comeptent with novaguard and smashguard will always score higher and die less as a novaguard.

Nova's damage is pitiful - particularly on platinum - but damage isn't what makes nova a great power.  The ability to survive a point-blank possessed abomination detonation is.

It's not even a competition.

Modifié par MP-Ryan, 05 janvier 2013 - 11:44 .

[Sailears]

Hmm, I thought smash was fine.

[xsdob]

Air Quotes wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Of course smash is not as good as biotic slash, they're two different types of powers. That's like me saying "- Ballistic Blades - It sucks"(Compared to flamer)

Compare smash to it's more similar power, nova, and than let's see the results.

 

Well it totally loses to Nova. 

If you say so. I was just saying why I thought your test wasn;t entirely fair.

[DullahansXMark]

Air Quotes wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

It's a great power on small maps where you can hide behind cover and hit big things, but if there's swarmers, seekers or anything it's a joke. So much trouble and you do NOTHING. 

I stated that you don't need cover to make it a good move

 

Well most of the times you do. Or the Prime witll LOLstunlock you before you even end the animation. 

That's different. Geth are just cheaters. Other factions are legit, though.

 

Scions will stun you too. Brutes will charge you faster than you can Smash a lot of the time. 

Umm...

Brute Charging?

*dodge*

*Smash*

Scions are overrated. Run around them and Smash. It's easier than smoke bombs.

[Biotic_Warlock]

It's one of those powers where timing is important. Where 70% of the time when you use it you are a death magnet. Especially with the aggro my phoenix characters draw.

[xsdob]

I can understand that reasoning.

I personally enjoy using smash more than nova, if only for the damage and aesthetic of the power than anything else. Otherwise the slayer and batarian vanguard are my go to vanguard classes.

Modifié par xsdob, 05 janvier 2013 - 11:49 .

[megabeast37215]

Well... after reading this whole thread, I think the solution to the problem is a fitness buff to the Phoenixes. 100 more base shields should do nicely...

Smash already does fine IMO... the damage is superb. Air Quotes, you keep saying the payoff isn't worth it... I disagree. Smash can OSK Geth Bombers, decimates Dragoons/Pyros, wrecks pretty much all Collectors and poops on the entire Reaper faction except for the Swarmer/Ravager issue.

[MP-Ryan]

Air Quotes wrote...

damage targets all around you.

Nova actually has a cap on number of targets - IIRC, it's 3.

[White Flag]

Why would you even want to compare Smash and Biotic Slash? Because they both go through walls? Ridiculous! But I guess it's my fault for reading an air quotes topic.

[TheKillerAngel]

Serious post: How many of you here regularly play the Cerb adept/vanguard?

[megabeast37215]

Air Quotes wrote...
It's instant too and damage targets all around you. Phantoms don't block it. But best thing is how synergizes with BC, Smash has low synergy cos of CD. 

Have you ever thought of situationally using one power or the other instead of trying to use both of them to cause BEs?

When you attack a crowd, Charge/Melee/Shoot. When you attack a boss, shoot/smash/repeat. You don't have to always go for the BE. Take Incendiary ammo and cause FEs with Charge and BEs when you won't get murdered doing so.

[MP-Ryan]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Serious post: How many of you here regularly play the Cerb adept/vanguard?

Used to.  Smash cooldown nerf made a poor class worse, and except for the odd game to get Biotic mastery I haven't wasted my time with it since (as you well know - how many times have you seen me play him in the last few months? )

[Bhatair]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Serious post: How many of you here regularly play the Cerb adept/vanguard?

Adept: It's one of my favorite and go to classes, even on gold.
Vanguard: rarely, only on silver for occasional variety. Probably one of my least favorite classes. But I don't play vanguards often anyway because I spend a lot of time off host.

[megabeast37215]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Serious post: How many of you here regularly play the Cerb adept/vanguard?

I have been playing them more lately b/c I am trying to master the kits... they are the last ones I feel I underperform with.

[Canned Madness]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Serious post: How many of you here regularly play the Cerb adept/vanguard?

I used to play them a lot before Retaliation but now most of my time is taken up by the Batarian Slasher and the Vorcha Hunter. I do need to play them more though.