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[Alixen]

Thanks for all the responses.

Yeah, I forgot that Tali appears quite late (all things considered) compared to the other squad mates. That probobly would have an effect, one way or the other.

The thing with Liara, I found, was that with her playing such a large role - even if you romanced her, her dialog was a lot of the time friendly but impersonal, and if i'm remembering right (it was at release, so the memory is a little foggy) it doesn't really warm up into a relationship again until after deciding to keep things going on the Citadel, aside from maybe a scene or two.

Then again, they all seem to be that way. The VS spends the first half/two thirds of the game off the ship. We get Tali after quite a few missons. Liara is... busy. I'm not sure about Garrus, as ive never had a character that romanced him.

[TheWerdna]

Alixen wrote...

Thanks for all the responses.

Yeah, I forgot that Tali appears quite late (all things considered) compared to the other squad mates. That probobly would have an effect, one way or the other.

The thing with Liara, I found, was that with her playing such a large role - even if you romanced her, her dialog was a lot of the time friendly but impersonal, and if i'm remembering right (it was at release, so the memory is a little foggy) it doesn't really warm up into a relationship again until after deciding to keep things going on the Citadel, aside from maybe a scene or two.

Then again, they all seem to be that way. The VS spends the first half/two thirds of the game off the ship. We get Tali after quite a few missons. Liara is... busy. I'm not sure about Garrus, as ive never had a character that romanced him.

Well, literally the moment Tali shows up she has romance specific stuff (and romance dilogue in the first conversation), with her romance-lock-in-scene being right after she shows up (invite her up to yoir cabin).

[NatP]

Yes, Tali's romance is easily the best one for Male Shepard. While it doesn't have as much content as Liara's, what content it DOES have is much better, at least in my opinion, and I do like Liara's romance. Overall, it's a matter of opinion, but I strongly suggest you give it a try,

[ziloe]

I actually loved Tali's LI stuff. I brought her on a few missions, and the dialogue between her and Shepard was always really sweet. I loved the part just before he fought the Reaper on foot, on her home planet. It was brief, but made me feel like I was doing this for her.

[Edolix]

Tali's romance is superb.

Aside from the lackluster romance scene and the whole photoshopped face thing, I don't think they could possibly have done any better with her romance arc. Lots of banter/flirting, unique romance dialogue... I loved it.

[xAmilli0n]

Tali's romance is pretty solid. Don't know if I'd call it the best but its definitely one of the ones worth trying for male Shep.

[thehomeworld]

It was nice but you can tell they rushed most of it and dropped the rest.

You can tell it was rushed by shep asking her if their relationship will in danger the fleet and she says she's unsure this one line alone says their relationship was suppose to be tied into the war with the geth and Rannoch. In the way Garrus and fshep were supportive of one another they probably wanted Tali and mshep to be.

It also would've made alot of sense to have them have conflicts in the middle of the war with the admiralty board and the galaxy at large this unique couple was rushed and not all it could've been. They have nice moments when the pair are together, her face is nice even if they photoshoped it but they refuse to show her face in life, then their love scene is llitterly a 1 second kiss and done which was horribly disapointing. If you bring her on the Cerberus base and look at the LP she really does a cute moment. I was disappointed there was no Taliesque date she seems like the character to do this and make it really something that reflects her but is also for shep.

In DLCs though if you bring her along she'll be concerned for you like she's worried in Lev

[Alixen]

Ah, i'll probobly watch Lev on youtube, if I can find one by a Tali romancer. I may be willing to play through a game I paid for a second time, but no way am I willing to give bioware more money after the fiasco.

[sentinel_87]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I really don't understand people complaining about how much content there was in it, because, seriously, compare it to ME2. A couple conversations in the middle of the game, a short scene before the SM, and that was it. In ME3, it changes nearly every interaction with her, has dialogue on-mission, and even affects one of her talks with Javik (love that evil Prothean laugh).

Honestly, this was one of the few aspects of ME3 that didn't disappoint me when comparing it to the previous game. Okay, aside from the awful photoshop, I guess..

This.  I was, and still am, astonished at the amount of content that there is for small side option in the game for most players.  It is a lot more than what was in ME2.  There is probably more relationship specific banter on the geth dreadnought mission than all ME2 combined.  There is also specific content for a few Normandy "conversations", the Extended Cut and Leviathan.

[Robhuzz]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I really don't understand people complaining about how much content there was in it, because, seriously, compare it to ME2. A couple conversations in the middle of the game, a short scene before the SM, and that was it. In ME3, it changes nearly every interaction with her, has dialogue on-mission, and even affects one of her talks with Javik (love that evil Prothean laugh).

Honestly, this was one of the few aspects of ME3 that didn't disappoint me when comparing it to the previous game. Okay, aside from the awful photoshop, I guess..

I think this is one of those 'never enough' subjects. A lot of people take great enjoyment out of bioware companions (whether on the friendship or romance path) and when there's a character you really like (whether you romance them or not) there can never be enough content for that character.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 06 janvier 2013 - 05:41 .

[No_MSG]

I liked it, except for the face thing, and the part where it felt like I was romancing Liara and Tali. And the part where Tali is one of the last recruitable characters again.

[SilentK]

sentinel_87 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I really don't understand people complaining about how much content there was in it, because, seriously, compare it to ME2. A couple conversations in the middle of the game, a short scene before the SM, and that was it. In ME3, it changes nearly every interaction with her, has dialogue on-mission, and even affects one of her talks with Javik (love that evil Prothean laugh).

Honestly, this was one of the few aspects of ME3 that didn't disappoint me when comparing it to the previous game. Okay, aside from the awful photoshop, I guess..

This.  I was, and still am, astonished at the amount of content that there is for small side option in the game for most players.  It is a lot more than what was in ME2.  There is probably more relationship specific banter on the geth dreadnought mission than all ME2 combined.  There is also specific content for a few Normandy "conversations", the Extended Cut and Leviathan.

Currently romancing Garrus for the first time and the turian has little extra lines specific for the romance all the time in ME3. Just going by the Citadel, when you discuss different missions in the calibrations-room. Don't know if Garrus is just being extra smooth but I got plenty of romance. The content you got with Garrus in ME3 is much much more than in ME2 and I really like it. Hope that Tali got a equal good treatment in ME3. Would love to see it for myself but I just find it difficult to play male characters.

[Ticonderoga117]

The only problems I can ponder are:
-Too brief. Seriously, last half of the game and no "date"? Just slightly disappointing.
-The photo. That photo. It's not the direction they took with Tali, it's the amount of effort. You mean
to tell me Diana Allers, some IGN nobody who licked a PSP gets a full body scan and render for a
minor side role yet a main character whose face has been driving people nuts for two previous games gets a PHOTOSHOP from a stock photo? The amount of wasted effort is amazing.

[Han Shot First]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I really don't understand people complaining about how much content there was in it, because, seriously, compare it to ME2.

A better comparison would be to compare it to Liara's romance arc, who got pretty much all the attention.

Only if you are talking about female characters.

I've seen the Garrus arc on youtube, and he got just as much content as Liara.

In terms of the amount of content, I'd break it down like this:

Top Tier: Liara and Garrus

Second Tier: Kaidan and Ashley

Third Tier: Tali and Traynor

Fourth Tier: Miranda

Fifth Tier: Thane, Kelly, and Jack

LOL Tier: Jacob

I haven't seen the Cortez arc, so I can't comment on him. And I'm not including Allers, because why would anyone pick her?

[Endurium]

No_MSG wrote...

I liked it, except for the face thing, and the part where it felt like I was romancing Liara and Tali. And the part where Tali is one of the last recruitable characters again.

I took a character through the series loyal only to Liara as a romance, and quite frankly I got tired of her wasting time wondering if my Shepard in ME2 was her true self (this is an issue for Ashley in ME3, alas), and all the time wasted in ME3 trying to talk Liara into restarting the romance (she was hung up on the 2 years thing, and too busy being Shadow Broker to spend time with Shepard, apparently). Conversely, Tali is willing to give us the benefit of the doubt right from the get go.

So while Tali may be the last recruitable LI, due to Liara's waste of time with "but it's been 2 years!" (and Ashley being in a hospital for a long time), Tali lovers aren't really missing anything prior to that point.

Modifié par Endurium, 06 janvier 2013 - 06:13 .

[sentinel_87]

The photo was not handled well.  While I appreciate that Bioware actually gave Tali a face; the Photoshop job itself was not good.  Unicron9 made a much better edit using the same image as a base.  See my signature or this link for an image.

While I would have rather had Tali available earlier in the game the geth dreadnought dialogue does help make up for it.  I believe Bioware addressed the lack of the Citadel "date".  They said that reclaiming Rannoch, and eliminating the geth in my game, was her version of a "date" in the game.  I would actually have to agree with this; it is a lot better in my opinion as well.

Overall I think it was handled well, although I cannot compare it to the others as I have not seen any of the others.

[TheWerdna]

Alixen wrote...

Ah, i'll probobly watch Lev on youtube, if I can find one by a Tali romancer. I may be willing to play through a game I paid for a second time, but no way am I willing to give bioware more money after the fiasco.

Here is a video that shows all of them.

Han Shot First wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I
really don't understand people complaining about how much content there
was in it, because, seriously, compare it to ME2.

A better comparison would be to compare it to Liara's romance arc, who got pretty much all the attention.

Only if you are talking about female characters.

I've seen the Garrus arc on youtube, and he got just as much content as Liara.

In terms of the amount of content, I'd break it down like this:

Top Tier: Liara and Garrus

Second Tier: Kaidan and Ashley

Third Tier: Tali and Traynor

Fourth Tier: Miranda

Fifth Tier: Thane, Kelly, and Jack

LOL Tier: Jacob

I
haven't seen the Cortez arc, so I can't comment on him. And I'm not
including Allers, because why would anyone pick her?

Honestly I would put Tali in teir 2 or even 1, due to having at least a bit more romance specific dialogue and content then Ashley and Kaidan. In fact, Tali had by far more romance specific stuff in ME3 then she did in ME2

ME2 Romance Specific Stuff

• Three conversations
• Romance Scene

ME3 Romance Specific Stuff

• [/list][list]
• Unique Dialogue when you first meet her again in ME3
• Romance focus when you invite her up to your cabin
• Flirting and other Romance specific lines while in Geth Dreadnaught
• Romance specfic lines during priority Rannoch, with a a very touching moment before fighting the Reaper
• Toching romance specific dialogue during chat after the Rannoch plotline is resolved (is extended and has almost completely different dialogue when compared to the non-romanced version)
• Added romance specfic lines during the following conversations/scenes: Post Rannoch convo in enginnering, post Thessia talk in front of memorial, drunk Tali scene.
• Romance specific lines during Cerberus Base mission
• Goodbye before on earth before final mission.

Modifié par TheWerdna, 06 janvier 2013 - 07:25 .

[FlyinElk212]

You should know though that you cant' start a Tali Romance in ME3--you have to carry over one from ME2.

[SilentK]

Ohh...

This sounds really nice. Happy to hear that even if you get her a little later in the game it is still a touching romance.

[Cobretti ftw]

nope.. it was well handled in ME2.

On ME3 it wasnt.

THe good and very well made part is the last dialogue on rannoch.. All the rest wasnt compeling at all.

And that picture.. Owwwww that picture.. WTF was that?


ANd i even heard bioware saying that " some characters have models and they wanted to give tali the same treatment".. WTF, seriously? Thats like a giant middle finger.

SUch a poorly made photoshop picture that they didnt even bother to fix her hand lmao..

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

It lived up to my expectations, which were high. The lack of a in-game face was bad but everything else was spot on.

Never really cared about the lack of a "date," the Rannoch segment was way more meaningful.

Modifié par PKchu, 07 janvier 2013 - 01:10 .

[Cobretti ftw]

and by last dialogue on rannch, i mean AFTER the reaper was killed. The dialogue just before the reaper fight was terrible imo. ANd was one of the moments that broke my imersion. ='/

[SilentK]

PKchu wrote...

It lived up to my expectations, which were high. The lack of a in-game face was bad but everything else was spot on.

Never really cared about the lack of a "date," the Rannoch segment was way more meaningful.

ha ha   =)    I think that Rannoch has a much prettier view than the cafe in the Citadel as well so it might not be a bad thing.

[JesseLee202]

 I liked loved every single part of the Tali romance. Including the picture.

Tali's EC goodbye beats Liara's by a longshot.

[TheWerdna]

JesseLee202 wrote...

 I liked loved every single part of the Tali romance. Including the picture.

Tali's EC goodbye beats Liara's by a longshot.

Well, by being better it mean's Tali's EC goodbye is by far the most soulcrushing; which may or may not be a good thing.