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[TheWerdna]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

@Alixen
You don't have to use those renegade interrupts. With Legion, as I understand it, the scene works better emotionally if you don't. If you were dealing with the Geth VI, however, you'd WANT to use the interrupts. It's the difference between Skynet and "Does this unit have a soul?"

Paragon/Renegade doesn't make a difference with the Peace outcome. Both Tali and Legion must be alive. Tali must be an admiral. Their loyalty conflict in ME2 must be amicably resolved. Destroying the heretics helps, rescuing Koris helps, you must complete the Consensus mission, and you need a high reputation.

This is sorta correct. 

Things you have to do: Tali and Legion alive, must have done legion's loyalty mission, must have done the geth consensus mission. Have enough reputation.

Besides those things, you need to get atleast 5 out of 7 "points" granted by the following choices...

Tali not exiled: 2 pt
Geth Heretics Destroyed: 2pt
Tali and Legion Loyalty conflict resolved: 1pt
Complete mission to rescue Admiral Koris: 1pt
Choose to save Admiral Koris: 1pt


I have proven this myself, for I have a playthrough where I rewrote the heretics where I still got peace, and I have a playthrough where Tali was exiled (but i destroyed the heretics) where I still got peace.

Thus is actually possible to qualify for peace (provided you make sure to do the Geth consensus mission) before you even start ME3:D

Modifié par TheWerdna, 07 janvier 2013 - 05:32 .

[sentinel_87]

Steelcan wrote...

I'm sorry but Talimancers dont have a right to complain when compared to Thanemancers, Jackolytes, and Jacob's fan. She got better content than those three as well as Miranda, Chambers, and the the same sex romances

I agree with this.  Aside from the handling of the photo there really is not much to complain about.

Archonsg wrote...

The problem with Tali's romance was that we wanted more. Its that good.

I agree as well.  This is a testament to the character writers that Bioware has.  I'm mostly a strategy game player, just cold hard facts and a detached view of the conflict, so having characters in a game elicit emotion was really different for me.  I can see why people like role playing games now.

[TheWerdna]

sentinel_87 wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

The problem with Tali's romance was that we wanted more. Its that good.

I agree as well.  This is a testament to the character writers that Bioware has.  I'm mostly a strategy game player, just cold hard facts and a detached view of the conflict, so having characters in a game elicit emotion was really different for me.  I can see why people like role playing games now.

Ya, i find complaints that Tali's romance was worse then in ME2, when for it is a fact that there is more romance specfic content for Tali in ME3 then in ME3.

[Auld Wulf]

Han Shot First wrote...

The description of the Quarians in the book was actually deliberately vague, because Bioware had not yet come up with a facial design for the Quarians. All the book stated was that their facial structure was more or less humanoid, but that by no means made them unique. The Drell for example also have many humanoid facial features, but no one would say they look exactly like humans.

Unfortunately those that wanted Tali to look exactly like a human pounced on that passage, misinterpreted it, and created lots of really bad fan art. In the end, they got their wish.

p much, yeah.

That and the whole "Dem reapers be bad boy, faceless evil, and we be those Mary Sues who're out to do good and right the wrongs of the Universe. Gunna get us a big reward ceremony and Wrex is gunna bake us a cake and it's gunna be sweeeeeeet." thing are probably the most two utterly depressing fanbase outcomes of ME3. It's like a sizable faction wants the most boring, predictable, and literal outcomes of all.

'Tali looks vaguely humanoid,' the fan reads. 'Gasp!' he thinks, 'That means that she must actually be a human! No, not just any human! But the hottest human alive! Yeah! Man, I'm hot for whatever's under that suit! Woo!' And with that the fan thought with his dong and set aside all evidence to the contrary, even the whole chicken-legged thing.

Well, that's not all of us, thankfully. I'm happy that an equally sizable faction is simply better than that.

[RocketManSR2]

I need to do an AI hating engineer to romance my favorite quarian with.

[sentinel_87]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I need to do an AI hating engineer to romance my favorite quarian with.

Give Legion to Cerberus in ME2.  Otherwise Shepard have some AI sympathies in ME3.  This is my cannon Shepard, except he is a solider, and it was fun.

[Doctoglethorpe]

The handling of the face reveal ruined it for me. Otherwise it would be my favorite. It doesn't matter how good the cake is if you get kicked in the balls halfway through the meal.

Modifié par Doctor Moustache, 07 janvier 2013 - 06:26 .

[SilentK]

TheWerdna wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

@Alixen
You don't have to use those renegade interrupts. With Legion, as I understand it, the scene works better emotionally if you don't. If you were dealing with the Geth VI, however, you'd WANT to use the interrupts. It's the difference between Skynet and "Does this unit have a soul?"

Paragon/Renegade doesn't make a difference with the Peace outcome. Both Tali and Legion must be alive. Tali must be an admiral. Their loyalty conflict in ME2 must be amicably resolved. Destroying the heretics helps, rescuing Koris helps, you must complete the Consensus mission, and you need a high reputation.

This is sorta correct. 

Things you have to do: Tali and Legion alive, must have done legion's loyalty mission, must have done the geth consensus mission. Have enough reputation.

Besides those things, you need to get atleast 5 out of 7 "points" granted by the following choices...

Tali not exiled: 2 pt
Geth Heretics Destroyed: 2pt
Tali and Legion Loyalty conflict resolved: 1pt
Complete mission to rescue Admiral Koris: 1pt
Choose to save Admiral Koris: 1pt


I have proven this myself, for I have a playthrough where I rewrote the heretics where I still got peace, and I have a playthrough where Tali was exiled (but i destroyed the heretics) where I still got peace.

Thus is actually possible to qualify for peace (provided you make sure to do the Geth consensus mission) before you even start ME3:D

Uh ohh... I don't remember how I dealt with the Geth in ME2. I might have a problem here, oh well. Current FemShep handed over the evidence in ME2, not to spite Tali but because she didn't want Tali to risk exile because of what her father had done. And because I've saved her paragon-style in all my earlier PT:s so it was time to try something new.

[andy6915]

Silent, handing over the evidence makes peace impossible, period. It's an insta-fail for that part in ME3. Bad move.

[SilentK]

andy69156915 wrote...

Silent, handing over the evidence makes peace impossible, period. It's an insta-fail for that part in ME3. Bad move.

Well, I guess my FemShep will have an interesting time on Rannoch then. Don't know which side she will choose. But I look forward to seeing new things so it's quite all right. I've made peace before so perhaps there is for some tears.

[JesseLee202]

sentinel_87 wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I need to do an AI hating engineer to romance my favorite quarian with.

Give Legion to Cerberus in ME2.  Otherwise Shepard have some AI sympathies in ME3.  This is my cannon Shepard, except he is a solider, and it was fun.

I like the way you think.

I am always an AI hating Shepard. 

[ABN Tali Fan]

JesseLee202 wrote...

sentinel_87 wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I need to do an AI hating engineer to romance my favorite quarian with.

Give Legion to Cerberus in ME2.  Otherwise Shepard have some AI sympathies in ME3.  This is my cannon Shepard, except he is a solider, and it was fun.

I like the way you think.

I am always an AI hating Shepard. 

Agreed.

As for the orginal question. Liara does get more content but Tali's romance is a lot more satisfying to me anyway.

[Legbiter]

A friend of a friend's cousin who's a Talimancer really liked it so according to him it's excellent.

[CronoDragoon]

There's not much quantity, but I think what is there is quality. Despite not seeing her until the final 3rd-ish of the game, I was completely satisfied with the romance by the end. (Now thanks to the EC, Priority Earth comes complete with 2 lump-in-throat moments!)

[Legbiter]

Here's some red meat for the Talimancers.



Just don't all go crazy or something.

[TheWerdna]

Legbiter wrote...

Here's some red meat for the Talimancers.



Just don't all go crazy or something.

Goddammit, this made me sad about the endings all over again.

Don't worry Tali, I made sure that Shepard survived. You don't have to be alone

[JesseLee202]

That video is so good.

It did Tali justice.

[Paranoidal nemesis]

Tali is my favorite character, but I thought her Romance wasn't very good. Apart from getting her halfway through the game, and being the only squad member that dies as a result of your decision; she doesn't have as much dialogue as the other romances. You can't do the whole date thing with her on the citadel unlike the others.

I'm don't hate the picture of her, but I don't like how that is the only glimpse we get of her. If the team has decided thats what Tali is gonna look like, then why not have a rendered version of her? Even an unexposed arm or something would be better.

[Oni Changas]

Tali's romance was handled quite well. The only flaw is just the use of a (horribly shopped) stock photo rather than an in-game model. I was hoping she'd get to Rannoch and find some way to ditch the mask or something with a clear dome at least if romanced.

[TheWerdna]

SilentK wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

Silent, handing over the evidence makes peace impossible, period. It's an insta-fail for that part in ME3. Bad move.

Well, I guess my FemShep will have an interesting time on Rannoch then. Don't know which side she will choose. But I look forward to seeing new things so it's quite all right. I've made peace before so perhaps there is for some tears.

I am curious to see how this turns out, since I han't heard that giving the data over causes an instant falure for peace during the Rannoch plotline

[kalasaurus]

Legbiter wrote...

Here's some red meat for the Talimancers.



Just don't all go crazy or something.

Awww...  the Tali romance is so cute 

[garrusfan1]

Honestly tali's romance felt like an after thought though what was there was awesome. The best romance in the game was garruses cause he got ALOT of conversations (compared to others) liara got a tiny bit more but it wasn't as good. Let me put it this way the citadel date that garrus got was amazing. On topic though with the exception ashley romance tali got the least of any ME3 squademate dialogue.

[kalasaurus]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Honestly tali's romance felt like an after thought though what was there was awesome. The best romance in the game was garruses cause he got ALOT of conversations (compared to others) liara got a tiny bit more but it wasn't as good. Let me put it this way the citadel date that garrus got was amazing. On topic though with the exception ashley romance tali got the least of any ME3 squademate dialogue.

Yeah, Garrus's romance was the best of all ME3 romances.  I'm also very biased on this.

I wouldn't say Tali's was an afterthought, though.  She gets a good amount of romance dialogue during the Rannoch mission as well as a love scene.  Shepard's doing more for her than any other LI.

[TODD9999]

It was okay. From what I've seen, they could all have used improvement, some more than others. I really wish they'd done more to make it feel like you were in a relationship with them, rather than just someone you occasionally had a unique line of dialogue with. Adjust placement in cutscenes, offer to let them bunk with you, more unique conversations, etc.

[Dunabar]

GlassElephant wrote...

Legbiter wrote...

Here's some red meat for the Talimancers.



Just don't all go crazy or something.

Awww...  the Tali romance is so cute 

Bro tears were had!


Just awesome lol