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[Heimdall]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Oh, and didn't Cassandra have silver or grey hair in one of the early trailers?

I think her hair was white in a trailor yes.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

The Woldan wrote...

Spedfrom wrote...
I don't think BioWare would change how a character looks just because a fan on the forum has a very specific preference, anyway.

ME2 -> ME3 Ashley. 

Yeah what happened to Ashley she never appeared in the game... however for some reason a second Miranda was on the Normandy alot and she kept calling herself Ashley which I always found weird.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Oh, and didn't Cassandra have silver or grey hair in one of the early trailers?

I think her hair was white in a trailor yes.

I liked that more.  It gave her gravitas.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

LobselVith8 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

Merril's stupidy will eventually get her killed anyway.

Merrill wasn't stupid, so I don't see that happening to her. She was intelligent enough to discern if Keran was possessed by a demon, she handled blood magic proficiently for several years, and she sought to reconstruct ancient elven technology through elven lore she gathered and information she extrapolated from the shard. I respected Merrill being proactive about the plight of the People.

Are you kidding she would be an abomination if it weren't for the Keeper. I agree that she's proactive, proactive at being a moron.
She was told countless times not to use blood magic by everyone, even Anders, ANDERS who was already, an abomination thought her using blood magic was a bad idea.

srsly of all the ways to be proactive about the plight of the elves Merril came up with the dumbest way, her stupidity is legen



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[Kalas Magnus]

XM-417 wrote...

The way she appears in DA 2 is perfect for Cassandra. Don't want her to have an Ashley Williams make over.

[daft inquisitor]

David Gaider wrote...

I suppose I could have used the example of Fenris: I genuinely don't see why Fenris would associate with a pro-slavery Hawke, who not only explicitly endorsed slavery, but kept Orana as a slave.

It caused a big rivalry jump (perhaps the biggest, I forget), but I don't think it would be a deal-breaker for him as you seem to. But so be it.

Not to question the motives of the lead writer of the franchise or anything, but I cannot see Fenris being okay with you endorsing slavery in any regard, coming from the way he was portrayed in the game.

I don't know, maybe he was supposed to be written to be against slavery in general but alright with certain specific cases, but I never saw any of that in-game.

*shrug* Well, whatever. I was never pro-slavery anyway, so it doesn't affect me so much.

[daft inquisitor]

DinoSteve wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

Merril's stupidy will eventually get her killed anyway.

Merrill wasn't stupid, so I don't see that happening to her. She was intelligent enough to discern if Keran was possessed by a demon, she handled blood magic proficiently for several years, and she sought to reconstruct ancient elven technology through elven lore she gathered and information she extrapolated from the shard. I respected Merrill being proactive about the plight of the People.

Are you kidding she would be an abomination if it weren't for the Keeper. I agree that she's proactive, proactive at being a moron.
She was told countless times not to use blood magic by everyone, even Anders, ANDERS who was already, an abomination thought her using blood magic was a bad idea.

srsly of all the ways to be proactive about the plight of the elves Merril came up with the dumbest way, her stupidity is legen



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There is a difference between being stupid, and doing something stupid to further your motives. I see Merril as falling into the latter category. She was a bit bubbly and a little naive when it came to human culture, but she really wasn't unintelligent.

[Wulfram]

The awkward thing about DA2 was that in a lot of cases a big jump in Rivalry meant they respected Hawke a lot more, was more loyal and were more willing to get in bed. So it didn't work in occasions when it really felt like a big chunk of disapproval was called for.

Of course in DA3 disapproval is coming back as I understand it, so that will stop being an issue

Modifié par Wulfram, 25 janvier 2013 - 02:06 .

[Silas7]

Given the chances, I won't be romancing cass

By-the-way I really liked the Ashley ME3 make-over and would have romanced her from the start (ME1) but i found her personality unattractive to my tastes.

IMO i'd love to see more women with longer hair in the dragon age setting.

Modifié par Disapointment, 25 janvier 2013 - 04:21 .

[Giant ambush beetle]

Disapointment wrote...

IMO i'd love to see more women with longer hair in the dragon age setting.

IMO I'd love to see more women with shoter hair in the dragon age setting because there have been pretty much none in DAO and DA2.

[Silas7]

what would you consider short? for me it's merrill/Leliana type hair and shorter

[Giant ambush beetle]

Disapointment wrote...

what would you consider short? for me it's merrill/Leliana type hair and shorter

Shoulder length hair counts as medium length hair, not as short hair.

Random Ginnifer Goodwin short hair pic:





But this really isn't about Cassandra, forgive me for going OT.

Modifié par The Woldan , 25 janvier 2013 - 04:52 .

[Silas7]

If that's what you see as short then yes Cassandra would probably be the first LI and most certainly the first companion with short hair.

[Giant ambush beetle]

If Bioware doesn't go all Ashley on her, yes, maybe,

[Beerfish]

The Woldan wrote...

Spedfrom wrote...
I don't think BioWare would change how a character looks just because a fan on the forum has a very specific preference, anyway.

ME2 -> ME3 Ashley. 

I liked the ME3 changes to both Ashley and especially to Jack.

[Giant ambush beetle]

Beerfish wrote...


I liked the ME3 changes to both Ashley and especially to Jack.

I absolutely loved Jacks fitting overhaul in ME3, though completely changing a long time companion like Ashley is a no go. Even though I have never been an Ashley fan and mostly didn't care about her I hardly recognized her in ME3.
BW tried to turn a hardass looking pragmatic tomboy soldier into some kind of model-girl with super tight and over sexualized combat suits and waving long hair like those women in hair shampoo TV commercials.
It was blatantly obvious that the developers tried to get the mandatory ''pretty girl''part covered with her.
Man, that didn't work at_all.

I guess they had to fill the hole Miranda left.

Modifié par The Woldan , 25 janvier 2013 - 05:29 .

[Rawgrim]

Jack looked great in ME3. Ashley looked like some Kardashian wannabe posing with guns for a photo-shoot.

[LobselVith8]

DinoSteve wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Merrill wasn't stupid, so I don't see that happening to her. She was intelligent enough to discern if Keran was possessed by a demon, she handled blood magic proficiently for several years, and she sought to reconstruct ancient elven technology through elven lore she gathered and information she extrapolated from the shard. I respected Merrill being proactive about the plight of the People. 

Are you kidding she would be an abomination if it weren't for the Keeper.

Audacity was sundered from the Fade and trapped in a totem by powerful magic for centuries, and Merrill explicitly informs an aggressive Hawke that she has no intention of releasing Audacity. Even Marethari never claimed that Merrill would release Audacity from its totem with a spell; the fact that Merrill considers that Audacity may have already escaped somehow in Act III is why she asks Hawke to accompany her.

In contrast, Marethari endangers her entire clan by not informing them about what she's going to do, she keeps the clan nearby, she releases Audacity from its prison without informing anyone until it's too late, and she endangers Merrill and every member of her clan with her actions (and then attacks Hawke and Merrill as an abomination). Of the two, I'm not sure how you can seriously call Merrill "stupid" by any measure when she takes steps to prevent Audacity from harming innocent people.

DinoSteve wrote...

I agree that she's proactive, proactive at being a moron.

I didn't realize Merrill was the one who decided to do nothing about Petrice in Act I, after hearing how she wanted to murder innocent people to incite a religious war with the Qunari, or who did nothing about the incriminating letter that was found in Quentin's lair that revealed Quentin had an accomplice, or who did nothing about Meredith's dictatorship for three entire years while being Champion of Kirkwall and a renowned hero of the city-state until stumbling on Orsino's gathering by sheer chance.

Considering how Hawke continually does incredibly stupid things over and over again, I honestly don't see why people would call Merrill a "moron" for pursuing a course of action that Marethari disagreed with. Marethari is a mere mortal with an opinion, that's it. You're acting as though Marethari is God, and that Merrill is a "moron" for daring to have a different opinion.

Doing research on the Eluvian by gathering elven lore, and extrapolating information from the shard, are the steps Merrill took to re-create ancient elven technology that could potentially revolutionalize things for the People. I don't see how Merrill was being stupid here. In fact, the entire aim of the People is to restore what was lost because of slavery and the war with the Chantry and the Orlesian Empire. I respect Merrill for actively doing something to halt the plight of the elves, while Hawke was being passive for years at a time.

DinoSteve wrote...

She was told countless times not to use blood magic by everyone, even Anders, ANDERS who was already, an abomination thought her using blood magic was a bad idea.

My Warden used blood magic. Duncan points out some Grey Wardens use blood magic. My apostate Hawke used blood magic. Finn used blood magic to locate the Eluvian in the Dragonbone Wastes. Let me know when I should care that some people have an opinion about blood magic that I don't share.

DinoSteve wrote...

srsly of all the ways to be proactive about the plight of the elves Merril came up with the dumbest way, her stupidity is legen

Considering Marethari claimed Audacity could use the restored Eluvian to escape, and there's no evidence to support this claim, I don't see anything to support your claim.

[Sir George Parr]

Of the two make overs Jack certainly came out of it all the better for it. While with Ashley it was a case of 'if it ain't broke don't fix it', but they still tried to fix something that didn't need it. Ashley was more appealing as a tomboy soldier and less so in trying to fill a role better suited to Miranda.

Modifié par XM-417, 26 janvier 2013 - 10:32 .

[LPPrince]

XM-417 wrote...

Of the two make overs Jack certainly came out of it all the better for it. While with Ashley it was a case of 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' but they still tried to fix something that didn't need it. Ashley was more appealing as a tomboy soldier and less so in trying to fill a role better suited to Miranda.

This.

[Silas7]

If i could of had Miranda i would of had Miranda. The moment people knew about the reduced squad size should have been a clue to all that some squaddies were being shelved. Which i think rubbed everyone wrong in someway or another.

For DA i dont think i would mind a makeover for major characters to show that in the years after Kirkwall, people have changed.

Modifié par Disapointment, 25 janvier 2013 - 06:42 .

[LobselVith8]

ShadowDragoonFTW wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

I suppose I could have used the example of Fenris: I genuinely don't see why Fenris would associate with a pro-slavery Hawke, who not only explicitly endorsed slavery, but kept Orana as a slave.

It caused a big rivalry jump (perhaps the biggest, I forget), but I don't think it would be a deal-breaker for him as you seem to. But so be it. 

Not to question the motives of the lead writer of the franchise or anything, but I cannot see Fenris being okay with you endorsing slavery in any regard, coming from the way he was portrayed in the game.

I don't know, maybe he was supposed to be written to be against slavery in general but alright with certain specific cases, but I never saw any of that in-game.

*shrug* Well, whatever. I was never pro-slavery anyway, so it doesn't affect me so much. 

Honestly, I feel the same way. Considering what Fenris says about slavery, and his experiences with Danarius, I don't see why he would accept Hawke advocating slavery, or owning a slave. Then again, I really don't understand why certain companions aid or romance Hawke if he does something that goes against their ethics and morals, when I think it should be a line that these people wouldn't cross. It's part of the reason I think Disapproval worked better than Rivalry in some cases, since I think certain actions should lead to the companions leaving the group, rather than having respect for someone who does things they despise.

This makes me wonder how blood magic is going to be handled in Inquisition, since we know it's demonized and vilified in Andrastian society (as well as outlawed by the Chantry of Andraste). How might Cassandra, for example, react to the new protagonist being a blood mage? Wouldn't this be an issue for some people who are following the protagonist as a leader of some kind, which may be the case (since The Warden and the Champion were basically the de facto leaders of their moiety crews)?

ShadowDragoonFTW wrote...

There is a difference between being stupid, and doing something stupid to further your motives. I see Merril as falling into the latter category. She was a bit bubbly and a little naive when it came to human culture, but she really wasn't unintelligent. 

I really don't think restoring the Eluvian was stupid, especially when Marethari went from one baseless assumption (in Act II) to another (in Act III). Considering that Merrill actually did research on the Eluvian, while Marethari seemed to have done none, I simply didn't see any reason to take Marethari's word on the issue. It seemed more like Marethari was a victim of Audacity, considering how the Keeper was the one who actually released Audacity from its prison.

Would be nice to meet more of the Dalish. I find the culture and the history of the People interesting.

Modifié par LobselVith8, 25 janvier 2013 - 06:54 .

[In Exile]

LobselVith8 wrote...
Honestly, I feel the same way. Considering what Fenris says about slavery, and his experiences with Danarius, I don't see why he would accept Hawke advocating slavery, or owning a slave.

Fenris is ****ed up by his experience. He talks at length about why he obeyed Danarius when he ordered him to kill the fog warriors. The dynamic with Hawke - that was it. It's the same kind of abuse, and self-hatred. I think tolerating slavery is exactly the kind of thing an abuse victim would do. 

How might Cassandra, for example, react to the new protagonist being a blood mage? Wouldn't this be an issue for some people who are following the protagonist as a leader of some kind, which may be the case (since The Warden and the Champion were basically the de facto leaders of their moiety crews)?

One would hope the way Wynne would have, though without the magic persuade bullet.

[esper]

In Exile wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...
Honestly, I feel the same way. Considering what Fenris says about slavery, and his experiences with Danarius, I don't see why he would accept Hawke advocating slavery, or owning a slave.

Fenris is ****ed up by his experience. He talks at length about why he obeyed Danarius when he ordered him to kill the fog warriors. The dynamic with Hawke - that was it. It's the same kind of abuse, and self-hatred. I think tolerating slavery is exactly the kind of thing an abuse victim would do. 

How might Cassandra, for example, react to the new protagonist being a blood mage? Wouldn't this be an issue for some people who are following the protagonist as a leader of some kind, which may be the case (since The Warden and the Champion were basically the de facto leaders of their moiety crews)?

One would hope the way Wynne would have, though without the magic persuade bullet.

You mean the way that was taken out of the game?

[In Exile]

esper wrote...
You mean the way that was taken out of the game?

Yes. It bugged the Landsmeet. But, at least, it was a reaction.