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What endings do you think squad mates would have chosen?


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#176
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fiendishchicken wrote...

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1.It you can see that their different culture in Afghanistan then you should take that time to understand that still means all culture still act differntly. You point you made before still is only a point for the afghine people and not a point for every one.

2.You're not understand that fact there is no one in that country that stops these warlord. They  inheritly become the law there. I understand all the ill they cause there but the issue here is that their is no one there that fixed this issue. If peopl who ligitimitly get food alway get there food stolen from the pirate and warlord, and they have no one to turn to to help them or no way to protect themselve, you think they are going to lie and do nothing?
I'm not saying it better for them to becaome pirates, I'm saying the envirment make it harder to live in another way.
You keeps say they can finda better way, but then say their problem is cause by pirate and warlord stealing from them, you missing the fact here that even if they find another way warlord and pirest would steal the food they havve any way? Who protect them from this in the state they live in? You missing the fact here that your looking at them in a state order they don't have.
Go ahead and say there is a better way for them to live if you are willing to go into there country to protect their rights.

3.That depends on the deal they can make or if the police can garranttee safty. So your say the person has to depend on the hospitality of the police for there safty? Having to move their entire family to a witness protection agency to keep them selves safe do to the after effect of there actions?
You really think any one is will to risk themselve and family as a casualty for the polices war on gangs?

4. Now your grasping for straws. I never made a point on habit and I'm not bring that issue up. I'm purely bring up emotion and insticts. And even if we bring habit or schemas into the arguement, that still is a pro to the consept of discipline. That still equal to self control being nessisary, with is still inheritly discipline.

5. Ha, you never met one immature adult in you life? Your not understanding the mental maturity is not inherit with physical maturiry. They are to different things. It's not biological to mental  mature with a persons age. That is just common people skills. Talk to real people and you'll understand this.Many of the most immature people I know are adults. You can't turn on a tv with out seeing one of them.

You not understanding that emotions and insicts have a way in manipulating how a person acts. A person is not born with this self control. It is taught. If that were true we would not have parents, teacher, schools and armies that apply these lesson to indivisuals. You said before the in your army station there was not one soldier you knew who ever lost control. You don't understand the that was drilled into them by a sargent?
You're wrong to think self control is inherite in a person. This has to be taught, not gain automaticly. We a being always fighting with are base insticts and feeling. We have to be taught to control these feeling, we do not auto maticly know how to control them.

Discipline has everything to do with free will and choice. Why? Because it the only way instincts and emotion do not control us.


I've made my point. As evidenced by another poster, you make pick fights on a regular basis over issues to which you've no purpose. 

You're still trying to argue. At this point, I'm just going to urge viewers who read your posts to follow up on actual research.

I'm also going to let your comments on my 'ignorance' for the Army which I have served faithfully for the last 6 years slide. 




That had nothing to do with anything posted here.

And I'm not callingyou ignoarate. I'm saying you're being one sided.

You really think the a person automatically learns self control  instictively?
The issue here  is that self control is not automatically gain. You have to learn it. Even you have to say the amry teaches self control.
If you can say this how can you say people wouldjust automaictaly learn self control as the age?

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Galbrant wrote...

Refuse, unless they are indoctrinated or metagaming.


I think Javik might just choose to destroy synthetics. Otherwise I agree.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

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How do people get kaiden would choose synthesis why and to that guy who said talk would pick destroy or synthesis sorry she would only pick destroy


As his class is sentinel Kaiden's already synthesis (jk)  I don't know I think he might pick synthesis because nobody dies.  He does seem kind of soft like that.  I don't see him picking control though.

You should hear Kaidan's reaction to the Geth dying on Rannoch...
Saying Kaidan's not a fan of the Geth would be an understatement...
He does say this might be because his experience with them consists almost entirely of being shot at...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 07 janvier 2013 - 02:23 .


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Yeah, Kaidan would kill the robots.

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zombieord wrote...

Galbrant wrote...

Refuse, unless they are indoctrinated or metagaming.


I think Javik might just choose to destroy synthetics. Otherwise I agree.



Maybe... but with out evidence I doubt he would blindly choose it without confirmation that what the Catalyst is actually true. He would either examine the Destroy area maybe using his Prothy the Prothean Touch on the pipe to see if the Catalyst is actually right then Yeah I can see him picking it but as it stands the game does not provide sufficient to back up it's idiotic claims.. I wouldn't be suprise if Javik thought the catalyst was just a malfunctioning  V. I. and starts going ape @#$% in the chamber trying to shut it down.  

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Could they reload their game save?
If not, most of them would probably shoot the catalyst before making their choice...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 07 janvier 2013 - 02:30 .


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Easy. If your companions are simple-minded, short-sighted and dont want the best for the galaxy they choose refuse or destroy. If they want happiness, prosperity and peace they choose control or Synthesis.

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I don't know about the other crew, but I'd like to think a full paragon conversation EDI would have grabbed the gun from Shepard and shot the Destroy conduit herself. I have to think that way to be able to choke down that ending. Shepard doesn't control the geth and EDI in that ending, so they shouldn't die in destroy, either. That is something I won't forgive BW for.

- Shoving that completely unnecessary consequence into the Destroy ending was a jerk move. :pinched:

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 07 janvier 2013 - 02:42 .


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fiendishchicken wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...
 Ahh are you one of those people that think the "Catalyst let you win" ?

Well, Shepard is the only reason the Crucible was able to dock. Only when the Crucible is docked does the Catalyst know that its solution won't work anymore.

TIM was under the Reapers/Catalysts control. It made sure that no one was left but Shepard. Shepard is the avatar of our cycle. He carries the hopes of everybody in the galaxy. He represents us. The Catalyst represents them (the Reapers)

If you don't understand the symbolism of Shepard or the ending, then there's really no point in me going any further....


Considering Anderson had a good lead on us anyway, why not him? Oh... symbolism is the reason eh? Well when you force symbolism to be the driving force behind things instead of common sense or logic, then you have issues.

Anderson was unable to break the hold over him. And if you played through the first 2 games and only realized there was something special/symbolic about Shepard at the end of ME3, than you must've not been paying attention.


I laugh at you and urge others to disregard your dogmatic arguments.

that's cool....though you're a little late. I hold your posts in such disregard, I've simply been passing over any post you've made in whatever thread you decide to show your face. There's no dogmatic preaching going on over here. You're funny. Like a bad joke, "funny"

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SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

Easy. If your companions are simple-minded, short-sighted and dont want the best for the galaxy they choose refuse or destroy. If they want happiness, prosperity and peace they choose control or Synthesis.


lolNO

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Mcfly616 wrote...
 that's cool....though you're a little late. I hold your posts in such disregard, I've simply been passing over any post you've made in whatever thread you decide to show your face. There's no dogmatic preaching going on over here. You're funny. Like a bad joke, "funny"


That's cool that you actually give a damn to form an opinion bi0drone.

Have fun with your bad joke!

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 07 janvier 2013 - 03:09 .


#187
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Garrus: Destroy
Mordin: Synthesis
Wrex: Destroy
Grunt: Destroy
Jacob: Control // Destroy (Uncertain)
Kasumi: Synthesis
Miranda: Control // Destroy (Uncertain)
Jack: Destroy
Vega: Destroy // Control (Control due to it's nature in thinking on what's good for everyone)
Samara: Refuse
Legion: Synthesis // Destroy
EDI: Synthesis // Destroy (Synthesis for her at time would offer her the genuially the most welcome outcome for everyone. Regardless of her actions, she would be destroyed. Synthesis would feel like a nice parting gift from her.)
Ashley: Destroy
Zaeed: Destroy
Thane: Synthesis
Liara: Control // Destroy (Control given her somewhat need for power, can't shake that LoTSB touch)

#188
Ice Cold J

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 Garrus - Destroy
EDI - Synthesis
Tali - Control, or maybe Destroy
Liara - Control
Javik - Destroy
Ashley - Destrol
Kaidan - Synthesis
James - Destroy

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Destroy. Every single one. There are several examples in my signature, and I'm always adding more.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 07 janvier 2013 - 07:54 .


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Everyone would pick destroy and those who won't are obviously retarded/indoctrinated.

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Voodoo2015

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Destroy offcurse!

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Alex_Dur4and

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Anderson: Destroy
Liara: Destroy
Ash: Destroy
Kaidan: Destroy
Tali: Destroy
Wrex: Destroy
Garrus: Destroy
Miranda: Destroy
Jacob: Destroy
Jack: Destroy
Mordin: Destroy
Grunt: Destroy
Zaeed: Destroy
Kasumi: Destroy
Thane: Destroy
Samara: Destroy
Legion: Destroy
Vega: Destroy
EDI: Destroy
Javik: Destroy

Illusive man: Control

Saren: Synthesis

So Shepard... What is YOUR choice? Control? Synthesis?

#193
BleedingUranium

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Alex_Dur4and wrote...

Anderson: Destroy
Liara: Destroy
Ash: Destroy
Kaidan: Destroy
Tali: Destroy
Wrex: Destroy
Garrus: Destroy
Miranda: Destroy
Jacob: Destroy
Jack: Destroy
Mordin: Destroy
Grunt: Destroy
Zaeed: Destroy
Kasumi: Destroy
Thane: Destroy
Samara: Destroy
Legion: Destroy
Vega: Destroy
EDI: Destroy
Javik: Destroy

Illusive man: Control

Saren: Synthesis

So Shepard... What is YOUR choice? Control? Synthesis?


Moral decisions should not be made in a vacuum indeed.

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Legion: Synthesis
EDI: Synthesis
Liara: Control
Mordin: Control
Samara: Control
Miranda: Control
Thane: Synthesis
Tali: Control

Everyone else is destroy. I would pick Control if it was actually me picking the decision. But if I had a life as great as Shepard's life, then destroy.

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Alex_Dur4and wrote...
*snip*
Legion: Destroy
EDI: Destroy
*snip*

CUZ FAWK LOGIK!!!!1!11!z

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BleedingUranium

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ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

Alex_Dur4and wrote...
*snip*
Legion: Destroy
EDI: Destroy
*snip*

CUZ FAWK LOGIK!!!!1!11!z


EDI, Legion, and the Geth as a whole all support Destroy, it's not illogical at all.

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ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

Alex_Dur4and wrote...
*snip*
Legion: Destroy
EDI: Destroy
*snip*

CUZ FAWK LOGIK!!!!1!11!z


lol

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They all would've picked Charmander. Except the synthetic guys, they would've picked Squirtle.

Bulbasaur would get left out in the cold.

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Nearly all of them would argue Destroy. That doesn't necessarily make it the right choice.

A few exceptions: Tali and EDI might go for Synthesis IF the geth were still alive. I don't see Legion picking Destroy if he were still alive. Garrus is a Destroy-boy through and through, but the conversation with him about the brutal calculus of war suggests he's not entirely comfortable with that sort of thing. Maybe if you picked the Paragon option and the geth survived, he might consider Control or Synthesis.

Modifié par Kataphrut94, 07 janvier 2013 - 10:35 .


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Kataphrut94 wrote...

Nearly all of them would argue Destroy. That doesn't necessarily make it the right choice.


When all, or nearly all, of your friends and allies want a certain goal, and the other goal(s) are only supported by the main villains and their puppets, yes it does make it the right choice. That's how fiction works.