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Ithurael wrote...

He obviously never saw the Dino DLC thread..

jeez

Or the Volus threads. Those were great. Image IPB

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

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When I see people calling for people to actualy lose their jobs and livelyhood because some video game didn't turn out the way they envisioned it in their heads I don't blame devs for just ignoring the BSN altogether.


Neither do I.  Which is too bad, because despite the backlash, BioWare certainly seems to still care a great deal about its fans and players, and they repeatedly say that the decisions they make are a result of feedback from the forums.  As far as I know, BioWare is the ONLY company supporting its game (of the Year Image IPB) with continuous, free DLC to keep its experience fresh and engaging.  Treyarch isn't doing that.

I'm 100% behind BioWare.  I thank them for their hard work.


Say hello to 343 Industries. Say hello to free weekly awesome STORY DLC.

Fixed
Oh and the MP gets new temporary gametypes, so they can get some feedback and know wich ones stays or need improvement

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

moater boat wrote...

I'm actually glad this is becoming a toxic environment. Bioware deserves it. I want the developers to get a queasy feeling in their stomach every time they think about visiting these forums. I am no longer hoping for change. Now the best I can hope for is to spread some misery to those that deserve it.:devil:


Which shows what a disgrace you are and why you represent the worst of humanity.  What a selfish little brat


I thought human beings didn't deserve to be insulted.

Hypocritical ****.

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Fur28 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

valhallaVANDAL wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

When I see people calling for people to actualy lose their jobs and livelyhood because some video game didn't turn out the way they envisioned it in their heads I don't blame devs for just ignoring the BSN altogether.


Neither do I.  Which is too bad, because despite the backlash, BioWare certainly seems to still care a great deal about its fans and players, and they repeatedly say that the decisions they make are a result of feedback from the forums.  As far as I know, BioWare is the ONLY company supporting its game (of the Year Image IPB) with continuous, free DLC to keep its experience fresh and engaging.  Treyarch isn't doing that.

I'm 100% behind BioWare.  I thank them for their hard work.


Say hello to 343 Industries. Say hello to free weekly awesome STORY DLC.

Fixed
Oh and the MP gets new temporary gametypes, so they can get some feedback and know wich ones stays or need improvement

343's multiplayer is probably the worst out of the Halo series yet.
Regicide is proof of that.

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moater boat wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

moater boat wrote...

I'm actually glad this is becoming a toxic environment. Bioware deserves it. I want the developers to get a queasy feeling in their stomach every time they think about visiting these forums. I am no longer hoping for change. Now the best I can hope for is to spread some misery to those that deserve it.:devil:


Which shows what a disgrace you are and why you represent the worst of humanity.  What a selfish little brat


I thought human beings didn't deserve to be insulted.

Hypocritical ****.


Getting angry internet badass?  Does insulting video games devs using an anonymous avatar help you feel like a big man to compensate for your own lack of accomplishment?

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

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he's got it right

some of the people here are really sickening

Wow, if someone not liking a video game is 'sickening' to you, you must have a pretty low opinion of humanity.


Actualy there are alot of reasons to have a low opinion of humanity.  And what is sickening is not whether or not  you like something but how you treat people just because something didn't turn out the way you wanted.  Just because I don't like my lunch doesn't mean I go up to the person that made it and spit in their face.


That's a horrible analogy. It's nothing like not liking your lunch, it's like ordering a surf and turf at a fancy resteraunt, getting a dried out chicken breast, and having the waiter essentially tell you to go to hell.

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Wow, this thread has turned into what was described in the blog linked in the OP. Who would've guessed?

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Fur28 wrote...
Fixed
Oh and the MP gets new temporary gametypes, so they can get some feedback and know wich ones stays or need improvement


Which is leagues ahead of "Ok, get this. We're going to release new guns and characters, but hide it all behind a crappy random dice roll unlock system. *chuckle* They'll have to spend millions of ingame credits, that they can buy, to even have a chance at getting some of this stuff. Oh, and it'll be the good stuff that'll take forever.

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Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

Wow, this thread has turned into what was described in the blog linked in the OP. Who would've guessed?

Irony's great, isn't it?

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David7204 wrote...

Has anyone seen this? Posted four days ago.

http://dgaider.tumbl...ic-environments

It's kind of depressing, honestly. It's obvious the ME 3 story section is far worse than the DA III section.


Of course it is, DA III isn't out yet.  

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343's multiplayer is probably the worst out of the Halo series yet.
Regicide is proof of that.

What are you talkig about, the MP is good and fast, Regicide is pretty good, it´s normal free for all slayer with a bit of Juggernaut

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

moater boat wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

moater boat wrote...

I'm actually glad this is becoming a toxic environment. Bioware deserves it. I want the developers to get a queasy feeling in their stomach every time they think about visiting these forums. I am no longer hoping for change. Now the best I can hope for is to spread some misery to those that deserve it.:devil:


Which shows what a disgrace you are and why you represent the worst of humanity.  What a selfish little brat


I thought human beings didn't deserve to be insulted.

Hypocritical ****.


Getting angry internet badass?  Does insulting video games devs using an anonymous avatar help you feel like a big man to compensate for your own lack of accomplishment?


My own lack of accomplishment? Buddy If I died tomorrow I would be proud of what I have done with my life. The reason I am so successful is because I take responsibility when I screw up. Bioware could learn something from me.

Anyway, you failed to answer why the devs are above insults, but you can throw them around freely when people disagree with you.

God damn you're stupid

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Epique Phael767 wrote...

Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

Wow, this thread has turned into what was described in the blog linked in the OP. Who would've guessed?

Irony's great, isn't it?


More like, sad reality. These boards need a good purge.

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moater boat wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...

Yate wrote...

he's got it right

some of the people here are really sickening

Wow, if someone not liking a video game is 'sickening' to you, you must have a pretty low opinion of humanity.


Actualy there are alot of reasons to have a low opinion of humanity.  And what is sickening is not whether or not  you like something but how you treat people just because something didn't turn out the way you wanted.  Just because I don't like my lunch doesn't mean I go up to the person that made it and spit in their face.


That's a horrible analogy. It's nothing like not liking your lunch, it's like ordering a surf and turf at a fancy resteraunt, getting a dried out chicken breast, and having the waiter essentially tell you to go to hell.


Considering how you would probably treat said waiter you would probably deserve and then deseveredly get kicked out of the restaurant.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Quit trying to justify the inexcusable crappy behavior of the bsn.  Devs are human beings and don't deserve to be insulted and threatened.


Sure, but that doesn't mean that there should be a total "negative opinion = is of no importance" policy that makes the whole thing consist purely of people that accepts absolutely anything and everything, which would only serve to fuel egos and let other people's standard dwindle down to mediocrity when they start to think that whatever they're working on will be perfect, well received and highly praised no matter what it contains.

Yes, it feels good to get positive feedback, and that can be used to make someone really try their best and to improve their styles while entertaining the ones who love their work, but they shouldn't let it go to their heads.

Not to mention that some people around here really needs to get off their high horses, since their attitudes towards other people with different opinions are just as disgusting while they're thinking that the whole thing is so black and white in everyone's case when it really isn't.

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moater boat wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

moater boat wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

moater boat wrote...

I'm actually glad this is becoming a toxic environment. Bioware deserves it. I want the developers to get a queasy feeling in their stomach every time they think about visiting these forums. I am no longer hoping for change. Now the best I can hope for is to spread some misery to those that deserve it.:devil:


Which shows what a disgrace you are and why you represent the worst of humanity.  What a selfish little brat


I thought human beings didn't deserve to be insulted.

Hypocritical ****.


Getting angry internet badass?  Does insulting video games devs using an anonymous avatar help you feel like a big man to compensate for your own lack of accomplishment?


My own lack of accomplishment? Buddy If I died tomorrow I would be proud of what I have done with my life. The reason I am so successful is because I take responsibility when I screw up. Bioware could learn something from me.

Anyway, you failed to answer why the devs are above insults, but you can throw them around freely when people disagree with you.

God damn you're stupid


Posting insults on an internet forum is not an accomplishment.  But you are just a narcossitic sociopath that thinks to highly of himself to see outside of himself.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Quit trying to justify the inexcusable crappy behavior of the bsn.  Devs are human beings and don't deserve to be insulted and threatened.


Sure, but that doesn't mean that there should be a total "negative opinion = is of no importance" policy that makes the whole thing consist purely of people that accepts absolutely anything and everything, which would only serve to fuel egos and let other people's standard dwindle down to mediocrity when they start to think that whatever they're working on will be perfect, well received and highly praised no matter what it contains.

Yes, it feels good to get positive feedback, and that can be used to make someone really try their best and to improve their styles while entertaining the ones who love their work, but they shouldn't let it go to their heads.

Not to mention that some people around here really needs to get off their high horses, since their attitudes towards other people with different opinions are just as disgusting while they're thinking that the whole thing is so black and white in everyone's case when it really isn't.


There are a select few I can namely that feel they are "better and above" everyone else because they love the game.  But I don't want to get banned, ahaha.  There are equally bad people on both sides of the argument.

Modifié par spirosz, 06 janvier 2013 - 11:10 .


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KotorEffect3 wrote...

moater boat wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...

Yate wrote...

he's got it right

some of the people here are really sickening

Wow, if someone not liking a video game is 'sickening' to you, you must have a pretty low opinion of humanity.


Actualy there are alot of reasons to have a low opinion of humanity.  And what is sickening is not whether or not  you like something but how you treat people just because something didn't turn out the way you wanted.  Just because I don't like my lunch doesn't mean I go up to the person that made it and spit in their face.


That's a horrible analogy. It's nothing like not liking your lunch, it's like ordering a surf and turf at a fancy resteraunt, getting a dried out chicken breast, and having the waiter essentially tell you to go to hell.


Considering how you would probably treat said waiter you would probably deserve and then deseveredly get kicked out of the restaurant.

It's not the customer's job to be polite, but it is the waiter's job. What one deserves has nothing to do with it. Working retail has taught me that.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

moater boat wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...

Yate wrote...

he's got it right

some of the people here are really sickening

Wow, if someone not liking a video game is 'sickening' to you, you must have a pretty low opinion of humanity.


Actualy there are alot of reasons to have a low opinion of humanity.  And what is sickening is not whether or not  you like something but how you treat people just because something didn't turn out the way you wanted.  Just because I don't like my lunch doesn't mean I go up to the person that made it and spit in their face.


That's a horrible analogy. It's nothing like not liking your lunch, it's like ordering a surf and turf at a fancy restaurant, getting a dried out chicken breast, and having the waiter essentially tell you to go to hell.


Considering how you would probably treat said waiter you would probably deserve and then deseveredly get kicked out of the restaurant.


No you stupid sack of ****, I would refuse to do business with them anymore, and I would use the internet to express my displeasure in hopes of costing them customers, which is exactly what I am doing here. There is no physical assault going on. Stop using a strawman and accept that there is nothing wrong with barking up the right tree.

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Gaider is correct... this place, especially this subforum, is quite toxic and negative.

moater boat wrote...

I'm actually glad this is becoming a toxic environment. Bioware deserves it. I want the developers to get a queasy feeling in their stomach every time they think about visiting these forums. I am no longer hoping for change. Now the best I can hope for is to spread some misery to those that deserve it.:devil:


Out of everything I've seen in this place in the last ~10 months, this post is definitely the worst. Fucking filth.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Quit trying to justify the inexcusable crappy behavior of the bsn.  Devs are human beings and don't deserve to be insulted and threatened.


Sure, but that doesn't mean that there should be a total "negative opinion = is of no importance" policy that makes the whole thing consist purely of people that accepts absolutely anything and everything, which would only serve to fuel egos and let other people's standard dwindle down to mediocrity when they start to think that whatever they're working on will be perfect, well received and highly praised no matter what it contains.

Yes, it feels good to get positive feedback, and that can be used to make someone really try their best and to improve their styles while entertaining the ones who love their work, but they shouldn't let it go to their heads.

Not to mention that some people around here really needs to get off their high horses, since their attitudes towards other people with different opinions are just as disgusting while they're thinking that the whole thing is so black and white in everyone's case when it really isn't.



Nothing wrong with polite constructive criticism. 

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moater boat wrote...

That's a horrible analogy. It's nothing like not liking your lunch, it's like ordering a surf and turf at a fancy resteraunt, getting a dried out chicken breast, and having the waiter essentially tell you to go to hell.


Reminds me of that one scene in Falling Down.

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Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

Wow, this thread has turned into what was described in the blog linked in the OP. Who would've guessed?

It all started because of complainers complaining about the hate:whistle:

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moater boat wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

moater boat wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

moater boat wrote...

I'm actually glad this is becoming a toxic environment. Bioware deserves it. I want the developers to get a queasy feeling in their stomach every time they think about visiting these forums. I am no longer hoping for change. Now the best I can hope for is to spread some misery to those that deserve it.:devil:


Which shows what a disgrace you are and why you represent the worst of humanity.  What a selfish little brat


I thought human beings didn't deserve to be insulted.

Hypocritical ****.


Getting angry internet badass?  Does insulting video games devs using an anonymous avatar help you feel like a big man to compensate for your own lack of accomplishment?


My own lack of accomplishment? Buddy If I died tomorrow I would be proud of what I have done with my life. The reason I am so successful is because I take responsibility when I screw up. Bioware could learn something from me.

Anyway, you failed to answer why the devs are above insults, but you can throw them around freely when people disagree with you.

God damn you're stupid

Agreed. :D

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Finn the Jakey wrote...

Yate wrote...

he's got it right

some of the people here are really sickening

Wow, if someone not liking a video game is 'sickening' to you, you must have a pretty low opinion of humanity.


see, this is what I'm talking about

people deliberately misinterpreting things in order take offense and push their own agenda

disgusting