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"When you stick your hand into the pile of goo..that use to be your best friends thread....you'll know what to do."
P@tt0n

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

To all the hypocrites letting moater boat off the hook this is what he said if you excuse this then then you are not even worth reasoning with.


moater boat wrote...

I'm actually glad this is becoming a toxic environment. Bioware deserves it. I want the developers to get a queasy feeling in their stomach every time they think about visiting these forums. I am no longer hoping for change. Now the best I can hope for is to spread some misery to those that deserve it.:devil:


Learn what hypocrite means. 

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[quote]KotorEffect3 wrote...
[quote]Fifmut wrote....
Funny how you target me and let Moater Boat off the hook.  Yeah no double standards there[/quote]

That's maybe because you're the one talking about human beings don't deserve to be insulted, and then insulting someone a moment later. Lol, you're funny :lol:

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Devs don't deserve to be insulted because the game they made didn't turn out the way you wanted it to but Moater Boats crappy behavior and his overall self centered, narrow minded, wannabe badass attitude makes him open season.  He is deliberatly toxic because he enjoys it.  He is scum
[/quote]See, that's where you're wrong. Lots of games don't turn out the way I wanted them, and I don't mind. I do mind however, when they falsely advertise their games to trick people into buying it. As you said, devs are human beings too. They're not above us in any way, and they're not saints.

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wafflez wrote...

For those of you proposing a purge of the BSN, how do you think it should be done? And what rules would be implemented that would prevent the same thing from happening all over again without turning this place into the Internet equivalent of North Korea?


Ban anyone who joined after 2010 :innocent:

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Xellith wrote...

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But really BSN wouldnt be as "toxic" if the devs actually took the time to CONVERSE with us.  Instead they use PR statements nobody really knows if what they are saying has been taken onboard.

CONVERSE with us.  Dont let these gaping wounds which YOU the devs left, stay open and fester.  This is a problem that can be fixed just by talking to us.  Discussing things with us. 

yeah.....that would go real well.


Doing nothing seems to be working so amazingly well doesnt it?

please.....because this place is so "welcoming"?

People were b*tching the day the EC was announced. Before they even knew anything about it. Screaming to the heavens: "That's not what we want!!"

Yes, the Devs coming here and being nitpicked about every little design choice and then being lectured about it.....sounds like fun.

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Man, hells, the lot of you (or, at least, a lot of you) are pretty gross.

David Gaider has a point, and I don't blame him for avoiding BSN. There is no need to personally go out of your way to be vicious and gross to the devs. All the stupid "BW sucks" threads really don't faze me- I love BW, unabashedly, but I can see their flaws as well. I simply choose to look past them because they don't curb my enjoyment of the games enough to walk away.

Where is the Volus ninja when you need him?

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legion999 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

To all the hypocrites letting moater boat off the hook this is what he said if you excuse this then then you are not even worth reasoning with.


moater boat wrote...

I'm actually glad this is becoming a toxic environment. Bioware deserves it. I want the developers to get a queasy feeling in their stomach every time they think about visiting these forums. I am no longer hoping for change. Now the best I can hope for is to spread some misery to those that deserve it.:devil:


Learn what hypocrite means. 


I know what it means and now you are just being snobby

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

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When did I let him off the hook? He wasn't on one to begin with. “Devs are human beings and don't deserve to be insulted and threatened." Do you not see the hypocrisy here?


Of course you don't put him on the hook.  He is on your side.  Don't even talk to me you dounle standard hypocrite.


My side for what? That you shouldn't be hypocritical? Then yeah I guess he is.



Your a hypocrite for defending him while targeting me. While he has openly said he enjoys insulting the devs.


Lol. what? When did he say that? He said he enjoyed making it toxic. Putting words in people's mouths, naughty naughty.

Modifié par billy the squid, 06 janvier 2013 - 11:31 .


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Priss Blackburne wrote...

"When you stick your hand into the pile of goo..that use to be your best friends thread....you'll know what to do."
P@tt0n


Win

and for extra measure and lolz

"Look Marge, you don't know what it's like. I'm the one out there every
day putting his ass on the line. And I'm not out of order! You're out of
order. The whole freaking system is out of order. You want the truth?
You want the truth?! You can't handle the truth! 'Cause when you reach
over and put your hand into a pile of goo that was your best friend's
face, you'll know what to do! Forget it, Marge, it's Chinatown," :lol:

Modifié par solidsnake78, 06 janvier 2013 - 11:32 .


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Tigerman123 wrote...

wafflez wrote...

For those of you proposing a purge of the BSN, how do you think it should be done? And what rules would be implemented that would prevent the same thing from happening all over again without turning this place into the Internet equivalent of North Korea?


Ban anyone who joined after 2010 :innocent:


2009 ftw!:o

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Don't worry, Ninja Stan is somewhere. He has a life too, after all. I don't envy the mods and their hard work. They must have headaches from all these conversations.

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

valhallaVANDAL wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

When I see people calling for people to actualy lose their jobs and livelyhood because some video game didn't turn out the way they envisioned it in their heads I don't blame devs for just ignoring the BSN altogether.


Neither do I.  Which is too bad, because despite the backlash, BioWare certainly seems to still care a great deal about its fans and players, and they repeatedly say that the decisions they make are a result of feedback from the forums.  As far as I know, BioWare is the ONLY company supporting its game (of the Year Image IPB) with continuous, free DLC to keep its experience fresh and engaging.  Treyarch isn't doing that.

I'm 100% behind BioWare.  I thank them for their hard work.


Say hello to 343 Industries. Say hello to free STORY DLC.


I feel the need to point a few things out: is only free for the first season, only free to gold members, the story exists almost entirely within cutscenes, maps are all copy-pasted to pad out missions, very little replayability besides grinding for points.

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Tigerman123 wrote...

wafflez wrote...

For those of you proposing a purge of the BSN, how do you think it should be done? And what rules would be implemented that would prevent the same thing from happening all over again without turning this place into the Internet equivalent of North Korea?


Ban anyone who joined after 2010 :innocent:



I am all for blowing the whole thing up and permabanning some of the more vitriolic  ones.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Of course you don't put him on the hook.  He is on your side.  Don't even talk to me you dounle standard hypocrite.


My side for what? That you shouldn't be hypocritical? Then yeah I guess he is.


Your a hypocrite for defending him while targeting me. While he has openly said he enjoys insulting the devs.


And? What he is saying is petty, yes. But it's his beliefs. You on the other hand are going againist your own beliefs-“Devs are human beings and don't deserve to be insulted and threatened."-and so are being hypocritical, and I can't stand hypocrisy. So I fail to see how I'm a hypocrite.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

To all the hypocrites letting moater boat off the hook this is what he said if you excuse this then then you are not even worth reasoning with.


moater boat wrote...

I'm actually glad this is becoming a toxic environment. Bioware deserves it. I want the developers to get a queasy feeling in their stomach every time they think about visiting these forums. I am no longer hoping for change. Now the best I can hope for is to spread some misery to those that deserve it.:devil:


I love how you defend yourself. Pointing at someone else and screaming "He's worse than I am!" is quite effective, huh?

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Lathrim; don't feed the angry bear, sweetie.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Learn what hypocrite means. 


I know what it means and now you are just being snobby

:huh:

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Tigerman123 wrote...

wafflez wrote...

For those of you proposing a purge of the BSN, how do you think it should be done? And what rules would be implemented that would prevent the same thing from happening all over again without turning this place into the Internet equivalent of North Korea?


Ban anyone who joined after 2010 :innocent:



I am all for blowing the whole thing up and permabanning some of the more vitriolic  ones.


Can we perma ban you too then?

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billy the squid wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

When did I let him off the hook? He wasn't on one to begin with. “Devs are human beings and don't deserve to be insulted and threatened." Do you not see the hypocrisy here?


Of course you don't put him on the hook.  He is on your side.  Don't even talk to me you dounle standard hypocrite.


My side for what? That you shouldn't be hypocritical? Then yeah I guess he is.



Your a hypocrite for defending him while targeting me. While he has openly said he enjoys insulting the devs.


Lol. what? When did he say that? He said he enjoyed making it toxic. Putting words in people's mouths, naughty naughty.


Oh so now you are going to make it about semantics?  How is making it toxic any different than flinging out insults.  Some of you feed of toxicity.  You enjoy it too much.  Something is wrong with you. 

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billy the squid wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Tigerman123 wrote...

wafflez wrote...

For those of you proposing a purge of the BSN, how do you think it should be done? And what rules would be implemented that would prevent the same thing from happening all over again without turning this place into the Internet equivalent of North Korea?


Ban anyone who joined after 2010 :innocent:



I am all for blowing the whole thing up and permabanning some of the more vitriolic  ones.


Can we perma ban you too then?


I  havn't flung any vitriol at the devs.

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spirosz wrote...

Tigerman123 wrote...

wafflez wrote...

For those of you proposing a purge of the BSN, how do you think it should be done? And what rules would be implemented that would prevent the same thing from happening all over again without turning this place into the Internet equivalent of North Korea?


Ban anyone who joined after 2010 :innocent:


2009 ftw!:o


7 days off :?

seriously though this place was much more fun back then, the devs posted all the time and complaint threads were mostly made by eccentrics like smudboy

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Gruntburner wrote...

I feel the need to point a few things out: is only free for the first season, only free to gold members, the story exists almost entirely within cutscenes, maps are all copy-pasted to pad out missions, very little replayability besides grinding for points.


But it's still new story content. That is free. And I haven't heard anything about the second season but it might be free as well.

The gold members thing is silly, since most of the XBL stuff is restricted to gold members anyway.

I'm perfectly fine with copy and paste maps for good story content that is FREE.

Did I mention that it was free?

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Tigerman123 wrote...

wafflez wrote...

For those of you proposing a purge of the BSN, how do you think it should be done? And what rules would be implemented that would prevent the same thing from happening all over again without turning this place into the Internet equivalent of North Korea?


Ban anyone who joined after 2010 :innocent:



I am all for blowing the whole thing up and permabanning some of the more vitriolic  ones.


Can we perma ban you too then?


I  havn't flung any vitriol at the devs.


flunging vitriol at users is ok then? ... i should go ...

Modifié par Dr_Extrem, 06 janvier 2013 - 11:35 .


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KotorEffect3 wrote...

I  havn't flung any vitriol at the devs.


Yes, but you aren't helping your case at all. Stop yelling, start listening.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Tigerman123 wrote...
Ban anyone who joined after 2010 :innocent:



I am all for blowing the whole thing up and permabanning some of the more vitriolic  ones.


Wonders never cease, I agree with you.

Modifié par legion999, 06 janvier 2013 - 11:35 .