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[SomeoneStoleMyName]

 The extended endings show that the reaper AI did infact speak the truth. Why are some people hellbent on still saying that the reaper AI is deceiving you to take control or Synthesis?

Control ends in peace and prosperity for the galaxy.
Synthesis ends in peace and prosperity for the galaxy.
Destroy only resets everything and puts the galaxy back to square one.

Some people say the Reaper AI is trying to "manipulate" you into going anything but destroy, but he is merely giving advice - and with good reason. Controlling the Reapers and Synthesis both leads to good endings. Only bad ending is destroy imo, with this - the galaxy has no ensurance against further war or synthetics as a new threat later on. 

Also bear in mind that the reapers arent evil. They did what they were programmed to do. They dont take pleasure or grievance in destroying civilizations. In their eyes they are the guardians of the universe, and races "destroyed" are actually kept "alive" through reapers. 

The reaper AI has no motivations or malevolent intent. And Control and Synthesis leads to positive outcomes. The "Shepards mission to destroy the reapers" argument for taking destroy is narrowminded and short sighted imo.

As it stands, the reaper AI spoke the truth. Whats with the people saying he deceives and tries to manipulate you? He didnt. And destroy ending still stays as the least good ending imo. Choosing destroy is something I imagine a selfish and childish renegade I-want-revenge Shepard would pick.

Modifié par SomeoneStoleMyName, 07 janvier 2013 - 08:14 .

[fiendishchicken]

The fact you are calling it a Reaper AI belies your intent. Your arguments in support are meant to deceive - just as the Catalyst deceives.

Good Work.

8/10

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

Im not indoctrinated. Harbinger does not tell me what to do. I pick control or Synthesis because I believe its the right choice.

In all seriousness. The extended endings shows that the Reaper AI did not lie. How do explain that?

[fiendishchicken]

Clearly you are indoctrinated. Quick someone hold him down while I shoot the pipe!

Another poor bastard lost to the Reapers mind control.

[Leonia]

Thread title made me laugh, thanks.

[Voodoo2015]

Lets pick control so I can be a God its my way or I kill you. Lets pick Synthesis and play God rewrite human DNA. You are indoctrinated.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

OP, you may have missed the first 2 games (and the 3rd game up until this point), where the Reapers constantly lie and manipulate the minds of organics and make their suggestions seem like the correct ones (all while just using and destroying them). Now combine that with the very clear fact that you're speaking with the mastermind controlling those Reapers (the Reaper King)...

... and you should begin to see where the distrust is coming from.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 07 janvier 2013 - 08:32 .

[liggy002]

Just because you see something doesn't mean it's real. Neo Anderson thought that the Matrix was real before he had a wake up call. I should also point out that the ME3 ending was compared to the Matrix, a film in which reality vs. perception was one of the key themes.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

It was all just the story of an old man anyway liggy002.

[Fur28]

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

Im not indoctrinated. Harbinger does not tell me what to do. I pick control or Synthesis because I believe its the right choice.

In all seriousness. The extended endings shows that the Reaper AI did not lie. How do explain that?

So you believed that the choices the reapers want are the right ones?, that is an evidence indoctrination
Slideshow= visions seen in indoctrination

Modifié par Fur28, 07 janvier 2013 - 08:33 .

[liggy002]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

It was all just the story of an old man anyway liggy002.

And they still owe us one more story about the Shepard... just giving us cheap DLC doesn't count. 

[Mr. Gogeta34]

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

Im not indoctrinated. Harbinger does not tell me what to do.

Anderson:  "Listen... to yourself!  You're...  


....


...... Indoctrinated!"

[fiendishchicken]

liggy002 wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

It was all just the story of an old man anyway liggy002.

And they still owe us one more story about the Shepard... just giving us cheap DLC doesn't count. 

Woohoo!

New ME trilogy with Shepard, Blackjack and hookers!

Or for me, fighting to keep an increasingly volatile galaxy united from civil war while a Dark Energy flux sends the galaxy into turmoil, while having to be the secret leader of a reformed Cerberus and having to deal with the prospect of becoming a father and having a family with Miranda in the galaxy that is clearly going to ****.

[Fur28]

liggy002 wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

It was all just the story of an old man anyway liggy002.

And they still owe us one more story about the Shepard... just giving us cheap DLC doesn't count. 

how can a 15$ DLC be bad?
haven´t played yet, its too expensive for me.

[thefallen2far]

I usually try to distrust anyone who makes concentration camps, is attempting to wipe out civilization, manipulates governments, corrupts the genetic structure and consciousness of life to enslave it to their will, uses nonsensical battle tactics, makes accusations that are contrary to given evidence, kidnaps civilizations and melts them down to a liquid and all while using circular logic like "we're wiping out organics so they don't create synthetics to wipe out organics."

If you want to trust anything like that, go right ahead.... I'll be skeptical.

By the way, if something that does all that isn't "evil", then nothing is evil. There is nothing in the universe that is considered more evil in comparison to these things.

[rymajn3]

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...
And destroy ending still stays as the least good ending imo. Choosing destroy is something I imagine a selfish and childish renegade I-want-revenge Shepard would pick.

Because taking control of the Reapers and changing everyone's DNA to magic isn't selfish at all.

Oh wait.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

rymajn3 wrote...

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...
And destroy ending still stays as the least good ending imo. Choosing destroy is something I imagine a selfish and childish renegade I-want-revenge Shepard would pick.

Because taking control of the Reapers and changing everyone's DNA to magic isn't selfish at all.

Oh wait.

And the winner is... rymajn3.


The least selfish thing you can do is finish what everyone in the galaxy is fighting and dying for... the destruction of the Reapers.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Successful troll is successful.


Nice job everyone.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 07 janvier 2013 - 08:47 .

[MacroSpamMK]

Because people like to over-analyse things.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

liggy002 wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

It was all just the story of an old man anyway liggy002.

And they still owe us one more story about the Shepard... just giving us cheap DLC doesn't count. 

You know what... that's right.  ME4?  Oh wait.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 07 janvier 2013 - 08:48 .

[fiendishchicken]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 Successful troll is successful.


Nice job everyone.

8/10 would bang.

[BleedingUranium]

That title is hilarious!

[Mr. Gogeta34]

MacroSpamMK wrote...

Because people like to over-analyse things.

I didn't, the whole fact of Reapers lying and screwing with the mind of organics is pretty basic stuff (heck... it's behind every major villain in the ME games outside of the Shadowbroker).  Talking to their leader should've fired off a "really think about this one" flag.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 07 janvier 2013 - 08:51 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 Successful troll is successful.


Nice job everyone.

This lol.  20/10.