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[GreyWardenNathan]

I dont even know how DA will even incorporate mp. Im disappointed a bit as i was hoping this series wouldnt be forced into having it but it seems all games now see it as compulsory.

[SeismicGravy]

Only ones by EA it seems, although that's another topic.

[SparksMKII]

The only multiplayer I'd like to see is a coop throughout the campaign where the 2nd player takes control of 1 of your other party members.

I absolutely loved how Tales of Symphonia did it on the gamecube (altho not many of you have probably played it or even heard about it).

[Cartims]

I never played multiplayer until ME3. I am really having fun with it and it's the only reason I play the game anymore, I feel now I at least got good value for my money because replay went out the window with that (I"m gonna say it) ending.

[OMTING52601]

devSin wrote...

OMTING52601 wrote...

But I didn't cheat to get it.

That wasn't meant to apply to the legitimate edge-cases where you could squeak by with 7,500 assets, just the most probable ways of gaining this achievement (I didn't mean to imply you cheated).

Oh, I see. My misinterpretation, sorry about that.

And it's possible that the numbers were off, or there are more combinations of choices that let you get that amount (though "perfect" Paragon or Renegade playthroughs shouldn't suffice, so I would characterize the choices you needed to make as "particular" rather than "right")—they were really only compiled to try to prove that it was impossible to get 8,000 assets, and it did fluctuate by a hundred points or so over time (but still never anywhere near 8,000).

You're absolutely right. There was zero, nada, none, no possible way to reach 8K EMS in the original release of the game. I helped datamine all the possible numbers with Fem way back in the day. The best one could squeak was just shy of 3900 (IIRC) - and that was including some asset numbers that existed in the .bin but weren't actually available in the game.

In any event, my only concern is that single-player achievements are reasonably achievable in single-player. If it's something you can almost never legitimately accomplish during the campaign but becomes trivially easy after 30 minutes of multiplayer, something is wrong. (Personally, I'm not bothered by multiplayer achievements that have no relevance to single-player, and vice versa—it's just when the two get mixed and end up only really being feasible for one of them that I think there's a problem: it should be an actual accomplishment regardless which direction you come from, and it should be equally possible from both.)

Agreed, at least with your second sentence. I wouldn't say I'm 'bothered' by separate achievements, but that in this particular case, seeing separate MP achievements would chafe me, as I don't really see a need for MP in what has been a SP game franchise. But I'm not an achievement monger, so in another situation, I second your general sentiment - that seeing SP/MP specific achievements is okay, as long as one isn't needed for the other to be completed, and yes, in a best case for any game, all achievements should be equally as achievable from either SP or MP approaches (in games that aren't MP specific, that is).

[Kulyok]

I'm a completionist who doesn't ever play multiplayer(I'm not comfortable playing with other people), and if I might offer my thoughts, I'd like to have an option to not see multiplayer achievements at all. Example: I play in Single Player, and when I open the list of achievements(I prefer the way it was done in DAO, by the way, when I could see the whole list at once, both "done" and "yet to do"), I see only single-player achievements. If I , for example, tick off an option "show multiplayer achivements" or "hide multiplayer achievements", they will be hidden - or shown. In Diablo 3, there was something close - multiplayer achievements were a separate group - but, unfortunately, they were always visible.

But that's just me. I'm advocating for as many options as possible, for roleplaying freedom, from "auto-looting" and "skip all battles, only want conversation" to "hide all romances I don't like - say, Merrill's or Leliana's" and "always hide helmets, especially in the inventory screen".