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[Epic777]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I know this may sound a little snarky, but I really don't mean it to. I mean this as an actual legitimate question:

Then why are you here?

"I don't like ME anymore" (for whatever reason. Didn't like the ending, didn't like the DLC, didn't like ME3 core game, MP, etc). Why are you still here?

I have, over the course of a long life, fallen in and out of love with games, authors, films, etc. When I am done with them, I am done with them. I don't linger, hang around, etc and tell people about how I am "done" with whatever it is. Sure, maybe later on, I come back to it and reread/replay/rewatch, etc and maybe get involved again, but if I am done with something, I leave it.

So if you have "lost interest" (or similar) why are you still here?

Only for the MP. The SP is a bitter disappointment, but the MP has been a pleasant suprise.

Modifié par Epic777, 07 janvier 2013 - 06:59 .

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I know this may sound a little snarky, but I really don't mean it to. I mean this as an actual legitimate question:

Then why are you here?

"I don't like ME anymore" (for whatever reason. Didn't like the ending, didn't like the DLC, didn't like ME3 core game, MP, etc). Why are you still here?

I have, over the course of a long life, fallen in and out of love with games, authors, films, etc. When I am done with them, I am done with them. I don't linger, hang around, etc and tell people about how I am "done" with whatever it is. Sure, maybe later on, I come back to it and reread/replay/rewatch, etc and maybe get involved again, but if I am done with something, I leave it.

So if you have "lost interest" (or similar) why are you still here?

When I was originally disappointed, I kept talking about it because I felt a need to communicate with other people who were let down or sad. Somethings you get bored of, you just stop following. I think with Mass Effect you get immersed into the world and have certain expectations, those expectations are perhaps violated, the story is over but you're upset with the resolution and unhappy.

It's a powerful combination, the successful level of immersion the creators achieved and people's disappointment with the ending. So you're not really letting go of your interest - you may be "done" with Mass Effect in terms of playing it, but you're still bothered by how it came back and wish it was different and want to discuss it with others, because it still bothers you give how much self-insertion ME encourages.

I think that's why you see so many of these kinds of posts.

Modifié par PKchu, 07 janvier 2013 - 06:59 .

[Chris Priestly]

That was kind of what I meant, I just didn't ask it very well.

If you are still interested in characters, or discussing past glories, or future DLC ideas, or similar, you have not "completely lost interest" in the game. People who hang around because they have friends here (great!) or enjoyed what happened in the past or whatever I totally understand. As pointed out, that is a key part of a "social" site.

I do not understand why people who say they have no interest in a subject feel the need to say that they no longer have an interest in the subject. Are you looking for stimulation as to why you should stay? (like from fellow posters or developers to convince you to stay) Are you looking for validation as to why you should go?

As I said, I don't mean this in a snarky way. I am curious as to why people (not just this OP) say these things so that wer can make things better here to prevent people from posting like this (becoming disenchanted) in the future.

[Kaidan Fan]

I still like ME.  Even though I didn't like the ending choices I still have a great love for the games.  I'm attached. 

I hadn't posted in the IT thread since the first thread was opened but I did still read it regularly.  I'm sorry to see it closed and sent to groups just as the character section was.  Soon all we'll have left in the public forums is the MP section. 

I do understand why some people make these threads though.  I think some are looking for justification of their feelings.  Others who feel the same as them.  Some are looking to vent and others I think are looking for hope.  Something to make them care again.

I hope you find something to make you care again, OP.

[davishepard]

"Has anyone else completely lost interests in ME universe after EC?"

I didn't.

And Mr. Priestly is absolutely right. You don't need to remain in a forum for a product you don't like anymore.

BSN would be a better place if the useless haters simply leave.

Modifié par davishepard, 07 janvier 2013 - 06:59 .

[ld1449]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I know this may sound a little snarky, but I really don't mean it to. I mean this as an actual legitimate question:

Then why are you here?

"I don't like ME anymore" (for whatever reason. Didn't like the ending, didn't like the DLC, didn't like ME3 core game, MP, etc). Why are you still here?

I have, over the course of a long life, fallen in and out of love with games, authors, films, etc. When I am done with them, I am done with them. I don't linger, hang around, etc and tell people about how I am "done" with whatever it is. Sure, maybe later on, I come back to it and reread/replay/rewatch, etc and maybe get involved again, but if I am done with something, I leave it.

So if you have "lost interest" (or similar) why are you still here?

Boredom.

And no I'm not trolling or anything I seriously just come here when I'm bored or when I want to argue.

[David7204]

Feigning indifference as a passive-aggressive insult is a very obvious, and frankly, childish, technique.

[demersel]

fiendishchicken wrote...

demersel wrote...

There. Fix'd for ya. 

I liked this image too when I saw it on the CE Box Art.

Too bad it ends up having nothing to do with the game at all.

Shh!   Can't discuss it openly!! Come to our group!

[The dead fish]

Because that's not true, he hasn't " completely " lost interest in this franchise, with its universe. It's the same for every gamer who keep coming here complaining about the same things over and over again even if it's been months now that the game has been released.

A bit hypocrite to be honest.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 07 janvier 2013 - 07:02 .

[Iakus]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I know this may sound a little snarky, but I really don't mean it to. I mean this as an actual legitimate question:

Then why are you here?

"I don't like ME anymore" (for whatever reason. Didn't like the ending, didn't like the DLC, didn't like ME3 core game, MP, etc). Why are you still here?

I have, over the course of a long life, fallen in and out of love with games, authors, films, etc. When I am done with them, I am done with them. I don't linger, hang around, etc and tell people about how I am "done" with whatever it is. Sure, maybe later on, I come back to it and reread/replay/rewatch, etc and maybe get involved again, but if I am done with something, I leave it.

So if you have "lost interest" (or similar) why are you still here?

Well, as long as you aren't snarky...

Several reasons:

1) Most obviously, I own a registered copy of ME3 which means I can post here.  And for months I actually derived more pleasure posting here than actually playing the game.  Sad, I know.  But it, helped me work out my considerable frustrations about the game.  And in the end, it was here that I learned about the mod that makes the game playable for me.

2) Because Bioware is not hopeless.  While you all may have "dismissed those claims" made by ane anti-ending crowd, you have made darn fine products in the past.  And you can again.  I may be uncertain about DA3's direction, I may have little hope for any future Mass Effect product.  But I have been wrong before (okay last time I was wrong was in trusting ME3 to begin with, but you know what I mean )

3) Because I literally have nowhere else to make my voice heard on where exactly ME3 went wrong.  And I like to keep a spark of hope that somewhere, somehow, this voice will be heard, and maybe something will come of it. 

[Darth_Trethon]

The EC was just good enough to make people shut up and go away......many did just that. I guess it's accurate to say it was incredibly meh.....tried to provide as little happiness and/or closure as they could to just make people shut up and go away without feeling any satisfaction or closure or anything much more than the desire to drop it.

I left for months after the EC and the only reason I'm here now is because the next SP DLC is supposed to be emotional, have all writers involved and plenty of returning crew members. So BioWare should seriously ask themselves if this is all they want the fans to do....just shut up and go away. They do not value or care about any specific individual but with blunders like the original ending, the meh EC and representatives like Chris here all doing their best to drive people away is it really any wonder they just stumble from disaster(TOR) to disaster(ME3).....when the time comes for ME4 or DA3 thy may find they've succeeded at their goal.....everyone just shut up and went away, that's bound to be good for business....

[CoolioThane]

davishepard wrote...

"Has anyone else completely lost interests in ME universe after EC?"

I didn't.

And Mr. Priestly is absolutely right. You don't need to remain in a forum for a product you don't like anymore.

BSN would be a better place if the useless haters simply leave.

I think "useless haters" were contributing more to the discussion than you. Are you a "useless non-hater" ? What a stupid post

[Dr_Extrem]

i want to be attached to this universe again ..

after the ending of me3, i decided to play through me1 and 2 again. me 1 was hard to start - but i did it like shepard and at the end, i had the same old warm feelings again.

it is not working that well with me2 though. i even miss credits on missions - something that never happened before. i hope it gets better.

if not and i loose my love for shepard and the crew, i will leave this place.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

It's like when your sports team loses the Super Bowl or goes 4-12 for the 8th year in the row. You need to talk to other people of how sad you are and the quickest expression of that is often to say, "I'm done with this, this let me down so bad, I'm through with this!" Because even if you've given up on the team, the emotional investment you had is still there.

EDIT: You might also see this continue because DLC, the EC, and simple time makes people regain interest and get "angry" again and they want to express how annoyed they are, because Mass Effect is so good at making people care.

EDIT2: There's a lack of a sense of finality given that there's still at least one SP DLC coming and that kind of gives people silly hopes.

Modifié par PKchu, 07 janvier 2013 - 07:05 .

[PsiMatrix]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I know this may sound a little snarky, but I really don't mean it to. I mean this as an actual legitimate question:

Then why are you here?

"I don't like ME anymore" (for whatever reason. Didn't like the ending, didn't like the DLC, didn't like ME3 core game, MP, etc). Why are you still here?

I have, over the course of a long life, fallen in and out of love with games, authors, films, etc. When I am done with them, I am done with them. I don't linger, hang around, etc and tell people about how I am "done" with whatever it is. Sure, maybe later on, I come back to it and reread/replay/rewatch, etc and maybe get involved again, but if I am done with something, I leave it.

So if you have "lost interest" (or similar) why are you still here?

Because:


I'd post the Penny Arcade one but the XKCD one sums it up. Maybe they're looking for validation that they're not alone in their opinion or want attention and got o a place where they know they'll find it. I used to wonder the same thing on the City of Heroes board; it's not unique to the BSN.

[DeinonSlayer]

I still like Mass Effect. A lot. I've got one playthrough I consider canon, that I put the most work into and the most thought into the backstory, but I'm working on my fourth completely distinct Shepard right now. There's several places where character/story railroading is grating, where the writing is wonky, and I have and will continue to discuss it. I don't want sub-par to become the norm. That said, if I didn't enjoy it I wouldn't keep coming back.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 07 janvier 2013 - 07:14 .

[TSA_383]

Chris Priestly wrote...

That was kind of what I meant, I just didn't ask it very well.

If you are still interested in characters, or discussing past glories, or future DLC ideas, or similar, you have not "completely lost interest" in the game. People who hang around because they have friends here (great!) or enjoyed what happened in the past or whatever I totally understand. As pointed out, that is a key part of a "social" site.

I do not understand why people who say they have no interest in a subject feel the need to say that they no longer have an interest in the subject. Are you looking for stimulation as to why you should stay? (like from fellow posters or developers to convince you to stay) Are you looking for validation as to why you should go?

As I said, I don't mean this in a snarky way. I am curious as to why people (not just this OP) say these things so that wer can make things better here to prevent people from posting like this (becoming disenchanted) in the future.

What'd help if you want to keep people interested is to provide them with news.
I know everybody's been on holiday, but given that you're not done releasing DLC for ME3 yet and the next one's been underway for a long time now, even just posting up a screenshot or two or some snippet of info will keep people talking about the game.
I used to post on here a lot, but not recently as since Omega we simply haven't heard any news and there's nothing new to discuss...

[dorktainian]

Chris Priestly wrote...

That was kind of what I meant, I just didn't ask it very well.

If you are still interested in characters, or discussing past glories, or future DLC ideas, or similar, you have not "completely lost interest" in the game. People who hang around because they have friends here (great!) or enjoyed what happened in the past or whatever I totally understand. As pointed out, that is a key part of a "social" site.

I do not understand why people who say they have no interest in a subject feel the need to say that they no longer have an interest in the subject. Are you looking for stimulation as to why you should stay? (like from fellow posters or developers to convince you to stay) Are you looking for validation as to why you should go?

As I said, I don't mean this in a snarky way. I am curious as to why people (not just this OP) say these things so that wer can make things better here to prevent people from posting like this (becoming disenchanted) in the future.

chris.  we love the game.  we hate the ending.  Maybe if we can understand it, we can in a way help each other through it.  discussion between us fans is a great way of banging heads together.  it may seem like theory - even arguing.... but thats how we're dealing with it.  

[Medievalist]

Actually, I slowly come to like it again. I'm replaying ME3 for the first time since March (started it once already, but quickly felt the "ending hangover" and quit).

I'm just now starting Priority: Earth and I'm actually quite excited about the ending and how I'll react to it this time.

[demersel]

Chris Priestly wrote...


I do not understand why people who say they have no interest in a subject feel the need to say that they no longer have an interest in the subject. Are you looking for stimulation as to why you should stay? (like from fellow posters or developers to convince you to stay) Are you looking for validation as to why you should go?

We are interested in the subject and we wish to discuss it freely and openly, and we are looking for a place do so. As much as i see the logic behind the IT thread lockdown, - the groups are sadly not suitible for this kind of discussion, due to simple being and inferior and not so well implemented concept on this site, techical wise. That is the sole main reason why the people don't use them as much as you mods would want them too. 

[dreamgazer]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I do not understand why people who say they have no interest in a subject feel the need to say that they no longer have an interest in the subject. Are you looking for stimulation as to why you should stay? (like from fellow posters or developers to convince you to stay) Are you looking for validation as to why you should go?

You don't seem to realize that there's a negativity component at play here, Chris. A healthy number of posters remain to: a) make their displeasure known in harsh and vile ways; and harass others who still find enjoyment in it.  It's a form of entertainment for them.

But, aside from that: there are also people here who simply feel like they're working to get the franchise---and, by extension, BioWare---back on track. When you learn to ignore the former (and you're forced to around here, unfortunately), you stumble onto the latter and see legitimate intention. 

[davishepard]

CoolioThane wrote...

I think "useless haters" were contributing more to the discussion than you. Are you a "useless non-hater" ? What a stupid post

Oh, you think.

[demersel]

 And, yeah, By the way, Cris, you're being seriously off topic, and led this thread into off topic too. This thread is about whether any other user on the BSN feels that the EC was a product of an underwhelming quality and whether this ruined the ME trilogy for them or not. and why.
You should issue yourself a warning or something 

Modifié par demersel, 07 janvier 2013 - 07:10 .

[RocketManSR2]

CoolioThane wrote...

davishepard wrote...

"Has anyone else completely lost interests in ME universe after EC?"

I didn't.

And Mr. Priestly is absolutely right. You don't need to remain in a forum for a product you don't like anymore.

BSN would be a better place if the useless haters simply leave.

I think "useless haters" were contributing more to the discussion than you. Are you a "useless non-hater" ? What a stupid post

Posts like that are the reason the BSN is in the state it's in. Give me 100 ending topics any day over that kind of garbage. Btw, you are hating the haters, so guess what that makes you?

[Kesak12]

demersel wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...


I
do not understand why people who say they have no interest in a subject
feel the need to say that they no longer have an interest in the
subject. Are you looking for stimulation as to why you should stay?
(like from fellow posters or developers to convince you to stay) Are you
looking for validation as to why you should go?


[smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

We
are interested in the subject and we wish to discuss it freely and
openly, and we are looking for a place do so. As much as i see the logic
behind the IT thread lockdown, - the groups are sadly not suitible for
this kind of discussion, due to simple being and inferior and not so
well implemented concept on this site, techical wise. That is the sole
main reason why the people don't use them as much as you mods would want
them too. 

Modifié par Kesak12, 07 janvier 2013 - 07:11 .