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[Mendelevosa]

AkuIaTubShark wrote...

You can't nerf it.
You nerf HM - You hit ALL geth.
You hit TC - You hit ALL but 2 Infi's.
You hit PM- (I think it affects others?)
And TC doesn't need a nerf, stop crying about it and don't play the class if you don't like it.

I said that only the Gi's powers should be nerfed. I'm sure biower can program the nerfs so that they only affect the one character. Besides, I never suggested a nerf to TC. I stated that the GI should be balanced so that TC can come back to its glory.

[Ziegrif]

Decrease its shields by 200%!

[Learn To Love Yourself]

+1 for originality. Keep up the good work, OP. It's nice to see fresh ideas every now and again.

[Pugz82]

Does not need a nerf...it is a glass cannon.

Great power comes with little to no health.

[Lathlaer]

It's funny how the OP says that GI is overpowered and it's a cause to nerfs to such things like TC or Hunter Mode...which, actually, MAKE a GI.

What constitutes for his power is exactly that. TC + Hunter Mode.

[Mariachi 43]

Geth infiltrator has already been nerfed more than once so stop the whining. Furthermore, it will not be nerfed again because to powerhouse that class, you have to sacrifice fitness, which means 250 health and 750 shields divided by half for hunter mode (so 375 shields). Breathe on it and it dies, seems reasonable that it has power to compensate.

[Noipsaj]

AkuIaTubShark wrote...

You can't nerf it.
You nerf HM - You hit ALL geth.
You hit TC - You hit ALL but 2 Infi's.
You hit PM- (I think it affects others?)
And TC doesn't need a nerf, stop crying about it and don't play the class if you don't like it.

+1

Stop CRYING NOOBS... you're watching to much youtube videos!!!! Go and learn to play!!!!

<_<

[jaydubs67]

Kittstalkur wrote...

You're increasing the power damage on Hunter Mode, and increasing the damage of the proxy mine itself.

Tactical Cloak gives a 40(80)% damage bonus to powers and weapons.

The GI would be the class least affected by this change, and if you make the damage bonus from the proxy mine less worthwhile than the speed reduction, everyone will just flip their points. The GI would still have the best proxy mine in town. Also, the main thing I do with my Volus Engineer is put that 20% damage bonus on everything I possibly can, so you're nerfing one of my favorite classes in the process.

A GI taking power damage is giving up the RoF increase on hunter mode.  

Decreasing the base damage on proxy mine while increasing the rank 3 damage evolution means that +X% damage abilities which are based on base damage (like tactical cloak) provide less of a bonus.  To give you the math behind it:  

Current proxy mine base damage = 400  

Current cloaked proxy mine damage on most GI builds = 400 * (1.85 + .8) = 1,060  

Current proxy mine damage on a Volus Engineer (same evolutions) = 400 * 1.9 = 760  

W/ 350 base damage and rank 3 damage bonus switched to +50% instead of +20%  

Cloaked GI proxy mine damage = 350 * (2.15 + .8) = 1,032  

Volus Engineer proxy mine damage = 350 * 2.2 = 770  

And the more you decrease the base damage and increase the rank 3 bonus, the more damage the volus engineer does and the less the GI does.  300 base and + 100% or so (not sure on numbers) would pull them even closer together.  

As to cooldown, infiltrators are basically unaffected by their power cooldowns since they only run cloak cooldown.  Decreasing proxy mine's cooldown will let the TS and volus engineer switch more quickly to their other powers (marksman and shield boost) after casting a proxy mine.  Being able to spam a 2 or 2.5 second (rather than 3 second) damage and stagger power would more than make up for a 5% change in debuff.  

[Cether]

The GI is fine. This game has plenty of things that are far more game breaking and not nearly as fun. Wanna easy mode farm credits? You're better off playing a Shield Boost spam-bot Volus in PUGs than you are the GI. Or the Krogan Vangaurd.  

GI is amazing in the hands of a good player. On a bad player it's just a liability. Which is probably why I almost never see them in my Gold games.

Modifié par Cether, 07 janvier 2013 - 09:46 .

[Striker93175]

Our plat runs only use 1 GI. Rest are other geth platforms to set up FE detonate FE and heals. GI is the heavy hitter cleanup. FEs on flamers do the rest. GI focuses on 1 target, FE w/ chain OL is AoE death. We all run piranha's though. If a banshee pick up one of us she cant stand 3 piranha's chewing her face and will drop every time.

[Homey C-Dawg]

I hope you aren't waiting for a Bioware response OP. They don't respond to threads with "Biower plz" in the title.

[Eelectrica]

Agreed - the cheating Geth Hunter does need a nerf. Goddamn stagger lock!

[Xetto]

Just let it be op, op things are fun, nerfed things just does not net used, you want to nerf all th ethings so the game does not get used????

[upinya slayin]

who said you need GIs to speedrun?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isN6QWhhOQ4

[Zero132132]

I hate it when people call him a glass cannon. The Infidrell is a glass cannon. The GI just needs a cyclonic modulator, and it's nearly a tank. Hunter mode reduces shields by a set amount, so CMs and fitness basically can make it a non-issue.

[Kuato Livezz]

TS needs to post a video of themselves doing a plat solo run under 10 mins using the GI.

[Cether]

Zero132132 wrote...

I hate it when people call him a glass cannon. The Infidrell is a glass cannon. The GI just needs a cyclonic modulator, and it's nearly a tank. Hunter mode reduces shields by a set amount, so CMs and fitness basically can make it a non-issue.

Honestly anything in this game that doesn't have 40% damage reduction and over 1000 shields is a glass cannon with 2-3 hit points depending on if your shield gate has been used within the last few seconds or not.

Although if you're putting more than 3 points into fitness as GI you're doing it wrong . And I would argue with TC you dun even need those 3 points in fitness but maybe that's just me :x 

Modifié par Cether, 07 janvier 2013 - 10:07 .

[holdenagincourt]

I hear animal rights organizations are upset with Mendelevosa for shooting fish in barrels like this, and that a lot of unhappy babies want their candy back really badly.

[HydroFlame20]

This is ridiculous the GI is fine in the hands of powerful players as with almost any kit I have seen some people use the GI and just get dropped within minutes. I would say nerf some of these glitch's in this game like the geth rocket troopers and there dirty tactics.

[Zero132132]

Cether wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

I hate it when people call him a glass cannon. The Infidrell is a glass cannon. The GI just needs a cyclonic modulator, and it's nearly a tank. Hunter mode reduces shields by a set amount, so CMs and fitness basically can make it a non-issue.

Honestly anything in this game that doesn't have 40% damage reduction and over 1000 shields is a glass cannon with 2-3 hit points depending on if your shield gate has been used within the last few seconds or not.

Although if you're putting more than 3 points into fitness as GI you're doing it wrong . And I would argue with TC you dun even need those 3 points in fitness but maybe that's just me :x 

I run a shotgun infiltrator, and I never bother with using PM to deal direct damage (dat debuff), so the last 2 ranks of TC and the last rank of PM mean nothing to me. 5 ranks in fitness, conversely, brings my shields back faster, and since TC cancels shield regen, that actually means a LOT to me.

Without anything in Fitness, how would you even survive banshee warp balls? I never use cloak to deflect aggro, so infiltrators have HORRIBLE survivability for me (except TGI).

[Blarg]

I'm pretty sure you've all been trolled pretty hard. Take a look at the OP's sig.

[Mendelevosa]

IReuven wrote...

Oh, god... Another "NERF ALL THE THINGS!"

Can You give it up already? It's not a PvP for ****s sake. It's not like somebody is suffering cause "SOMETHING IS OP! OMGZ! NOOBZ!"

Yeah, but OP characters nake the game too easy. Which also in tur makes earning large amounts of credits too easy as well.