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[Mendelevosa]

Mzzl wrote...

Nerf everything that's other people consider fun to play. Other people having fun is bad, hmmkay?

@Op: are you very religious, by any chance?

Not very religious. Why?

[Sabbatine]

Mendelevosa wrote...

 If anyone has seen platinum speedruns with Geth Infiltrators, they should know that Geth can easily clean up all enemies in all 11 waves under 10 minutes. As a matter of fact, the GI has been the cause of effectiveness reductions to powers and weapons such as Hunter Mode, N7 Piranha, Tactical Cloak, ect. It makes me sick that other characters, powers, and weapons have to suffer because the GI wants to outshine all the rest. Maybe if the GI was not overpowered to begin with, TC would probably be a decent power that would not force you to choose between utility and power.

You're not very smart if you honestly think a class should be nerfed because a coordinated speed run team can clear a specific map (the smallest in the game) using specific weapons in a short period of time.  

It's also naive to believe the piranha and tactical cloak were nerfed in direct response to the geth infiltrator using them.

Geth Infiltrators are not overpowered, they are merely powerful in the right hands... like most kits.

Mendelevosa wrote...

I would propose nerfs to only the GI's powers. When you think about it, a character that can harness the power of all weapons and give further bonuses to Geth weapons make it too effective with such Geth weaponry (especially the Javelin). If only yhe GI's effectiveness is reduced, then the changes won't hurt the other Geth characters.

This I find amusing considering how rare it is to see geth actually using geth weapons.  Even the GPR is a bit of a rare sight (on gold random games at least).  I suppose it could be the weapon of choice for some speed runners but it's not so powerful by itself that it gets a lot of use by players solo queueing.

Mendelevosa wrote...

Biower pls consider making changes to the GI so you all won't have to perform anymore unnecessary nerfs. And do not let other people tell you not to touch the character, because all the BSN users want is to have overpowered characters that allow them to blow through gold difficulty and earn easy credits.

If simply playing a GI made it easy to blow through gold for most players we'd see a lot more people actually playing them.   The simple fact is that while they might have been this powerful in the past, today they are only one powerful option out of many.

[Mendelevosa]

Sabbatine wrote...

Mendelevosa wrote...

 If anyone has seen platinum speedruns with Geth Infiltrators, they should know that Geth can easily clean up all enemies in all 11 waves under 10 minutes. As a matter of fact, the GI has been the cause of effectiveness reductions to powers and weapons such as Hunter Mode, N7 Piranha, Tactical Cloak, ect. It makes me sick that other characters, powers, and weapons have to suffer because the GI wants to outshine all the rest. Maybe if the GI was not overpowered to begin with, TC would probably be a decent power that would not force you to choose between utility and power.

You're not very smart if you honestly think a class should be nerfed because a coordinated speed run team can clear a specific map (the smallest in the game) using specific weapons in a short period of time.  

It's also naive to believe the piranha and tactical cloak were nerfed in direct response to the geth infiltrator using them.

Geth Infiltrators are not overpowered, they are merely powerful in the right hands... like most kits.

Mendelevosa wrote...

I would propose nerfs to only the GI's powers. When you think about it, a character that can harness the power of all weapons and give further bonuses to Geth weapons make it too effective with such Geth weaponry (especially the Javelin). If only yhe GI's effectiveness is reduced, then the changes won't hurt the other Geth characters.

This I find amusing considering how rare it is to see geth actually using geth weapons.  Even the GPR is a bit of a rare sight (on gold random games at least).  I suppose it could be the weapon of choice for some speed runners but it's not so powerful by itself that it gets a lot of use by players solo queueing.

Mendelevosa wrote...

Biower pls consider making changes to the GI so you all won't have to perform anymore unnecessary nerfs. And do not let other people tell you not to touch the character, because all the BSN users want is to have overpowered characters that allow them to blow through gold difficulty and earn easy credits.

If simply playing a GI made it easy to blow through gold for most players we'd see a lot more people actually playing them.   The simple fact is that while they might have been this powerful in the past, today they are only one powerful option out of many.

You forgot to address a very crucial part of my post, which is located in my signature.

[L0s7]

I play a SI with a BW most of the time and consider myself pretty good, it's fairly uncommon for me to be put in a game with someone who can outscore me (even on Platinum, I usually have a significant point lead). But I do have one guy on my friends list that could outscore me or trade blows with me between games frequently. And it was on a GI with a BW. Guy is freakin' good.

[RoundedPlanet88]

Sabbatine wrote...

1.)You're not very smart if you honestly think a class should be nerfed because a coordinated speed run team can clear a specific map (the smallest in the game) using specific weapons in a short period of time.  

2.)It's also naive to believe the piranha and tactical cloak were nerfed in direct response to the geth infiltrator using them.

3.)Geth Infiltrators are not overpowered, they are merely powerful in the right hands... like most kits.

4.)This I find amusing considering how rare it is to see geth actually using geth weapons.  Even the GPR is a bit of a rare sight (on gold random games at least).  I suppose it could be the weapon of choice for some speed runners but it's not so powerful by itself that it gets a lot of use by players solo queueing.

5.)If simply playing a GI made it easy to blow through gold for most players we'd see a lot more people actually playing them.   The simple fact is that while they might have been this powerful in the past, today they are only one powerful option out of many.

1.) What corrdinated team of volus adepts can duplicate that feat? yes im using an extreme, but I think you get my point
2.) The GI was definatly a contributing factor to this, but I suspect that the destroyer also played a large part in the pirahhna nerf as well
3.)LOLOLOLOLOL Yeah. Sure. everythings powerful in the right hands, but the GI IS POWERFULL IN AN COMPLETE IDIOTS HANDS TOO
4.) Wow. Really? a weapons boosting class using non -horrible weapons. What a shock. PUGs actually have some intelligence I guess.
5.) 10 pug games(U/U/G), which means 3*10=30 randoms (im not counting myself) out of those thiry randoms its not unusuall to see more than 20 GI`s. And everyone of them had on cyclonics.
Whine all you like about your favorite cructh class not being OP, the metagames begs to differ though. I personally like the GI myself, but just because I like it does not mean that it ISN`T OP. I also like kroguard and TGI, are you going to argue that those arn`t Op as well? Wait, even better, are you going to argue that the original krysae was perfectly balanced, and not OP at all? are you going to argue that it was never seen in PUG matches? Please do, I could use the laughs.

[longgamma]

Over my 6-7 months of playing PC pug gold and plat games, I am yet to come across more than 10 half decent GIs. Most either are extremely good (they would be good with any other class) or absolute train wrecks whom my volus sentinel outscores easily.

Remember, not everyone who plays frequents BSN and we get to see some of the better players in the game.

[NuclearTech76]

I would be fine with all the geth being thrown out an airlock. As long as it is ALL the geth I can live with the sacrifice.

[parico]

Very few lack the skill and timing to effectively use the GI I rarely see them in gold or platinum unless Its me using it. When I do see them half the players are terrible. I can pretty much cause just as much carnage with a Salarian infiltrator and several other kits.

[Sabbatine]

Mendelevosa wrote...
You forgot to address a very crucial part of my post, which is located in my signature.

I respond to posts, not signatures.

RoundedPlanet88 wrote...

1.) What corrdinated team of volus adepts can duplicate that feat? yes im using an extreme, but I think you get my point
2.) The GI was definatly a contributing factor to this, but I suspect that the destroyer also played a large part in the pirahhna nerf as well
3.)LOLOLOLOLOL Yeah. Sure. everythings powerful in the right hands, but the GI IS POWERFULL IN AN COMPLETE IDIass using non -horrible weapons. What a shock. PUGs actually have some intelligence I OTS HANDS TOO
4.) Wow. Really? a weapons boosting clguess.
5.) 10 pug games(U/U/G), which means 3*10=30 randoms (im not counting myself) out of those thiry randoms its not unusuall to see more than 20 GI`s. And everyone of them had on cyclonics. 
Whine all you like about your favorite cructh class not being OP, the metagames begs to differ though. I personally like the GI myself, but just because I like it does not mean that it ISN`T OP. I also like kroguard and TGI, are you going to argue that those arn`t Op as well? Wait, even better, are you going to argue that the original krysae was perfectly balanced, and not OP at all? are you going to argue that it was never seen in PUG matches? Please do, I could use the laughs. 

1.  Clearly the concept of min/maxing is over your head.  The game isn't balanced around the assumption that a level must be challenging for a team of min/maxers.  It is balanced around the assumption that the people playing will be doing just that, playing.  For every speed run video posted on youtube there have been tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of games played by normal people the normal way and the simple fact of the matter is very few if any of those random games had 4 geth infiltrators .


2.  The piranha was extremely powerful on every kit.  It is idiotic to blame just two of them for the nerf.

3.  No it isn't, unless by powerful you really mean "spends three-quarters of the match dead".  I don't consider that powerful, but maybe a guy who spends nine-tenths of the match dead does.

4.  Should we take this as proof you haven't actually played the game or...?

5.  Uh, yes it is unusual to see 20 or more geth infiltrators out of 30 unique individuals you played with.  It's even funnier that you claim that every single one of these players was using cyclonic modulators when anyone who plays gold random groups would know hardly anyone uses consumables.  Sounds like you were playing with a premade team.

[Tom-N7-]

 Brought to you by the same guy that posted: Ways to Troll People on Multuplayer   Nice try, nice try...

Modifié par Tom-N7-, 09 janvier 2013 - 02:29 .

[E71]

Find it too easy to play as? Play as a different character.

Annoyed by GIs taking "all" the kills? Go the other side of the map and kill the other enemies, you don't have to follow the GI.

Annoyed by GIs outscoring you? Cry more.

[wrath425]

The most OP class I've used is the Destroyer with PPR, so shut the hell up about the GI he is the strongest sniper in the class he is also the frailest.

[Mendelevosa]

*yaaaaawwwwnnnn*

Ah, I'm getting tired. I heading back under the bridge for the night. See you all tomorrow.

[UWxMaserati]

Your face needs a nerf in ugliness.

[SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING]

Mendelevosa wrote...

*yaaaaawwwwnnnn*

Ah, I'm getting tired. I heading back under the bridge for the night. See you all tomorrow.

typical response i have seen on other forums from other users

means they are losing deh argument and want to save some face.....


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[Yaevinn]

Just replace GI's TC for the Huntress TC. Zing, problem solved!

[Crimson Vanguard]

Do me a favor

Modifié par Crimson Vanguard, 09 janvier 2013 - 04:13 .

[dream3873]

Dunno. I find my self outscoring GI,TGI, etc all the time. I still think a large part of it has to do with the degree of the players skill.

[Mendelevosa]

SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING wrote...

Mendelevosa wrote...

*yaaaaawwwwnnnn*

Ah, I'm getting tired. I heading back under the bridge for the night. See you all tomorrow.

typical response i have seen on other forums from other users

means they are losing deh argument and want to save some face.....


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[Thunderstrike]

oh god... not agin

[duffpastorius]

Damn. All hope is lost in humanity. Most of the people here didn't even realize it was a troll thread

[Mendelevosa]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Do me a favor

I do not bow to you Irune clan!

[Bowlcuts]

git gud

[Darth Volus]

git gud

 

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[The_Nightman_Cometh]

I think that nerf is coming some time this week with the new balance changes.