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[leighzard]

Addai67 wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...
Eh, we'll see.  I didn't like her character much in The Calling--she felt like a parody of far too many Injured Romance Novel Heroines Who Are Saved When They Finally Meet A Nice Guy.  She's got a chip on her shoulder the size of Par Vollen.

I don't get this.  If anything it's the other way around.  Maric was a mess and at the end he's found peace again and can return to his duties.  Fiona changes her opinion about him, that's all.

I interpreted it that way as well.  It's not like she's been through one too many bad break-ups.  I can understand why Fiona has that chip, but I don't think it's a character flaw, just her world view after the experiences she went through prior to joining the Wardens.  I doubt very much that her relationship with Maric changed that or made her any less cautious when meeting new people.  I suspect that people still have to work very hard to impress her or earn her trust.

And that's part of what makes me wonder what led her to return to the Circle.  She doesn't seem like the sort to have a sudden epiphany that she needs to return to her roots and fight the good fight.  She struck me as more pragmatic than idealistic.  I almost wonder if she was pushed out of the Wardens in part due to her experiences with the Architect (who I would also like to see return in DA3, even if it's just a mention of how the events of Awakenings/The Calling have impacted the Wardens).

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

FreshIstay wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...


According to the book, she had a reason for that chip on her shoulder.  One being she was enslaved by her former master for being beautiful, and a mage both.  This was an Orlasian Noble who basically kidnapped her. He beat the snoot out of her everyday.  Second, because she as an elf.  She was his plaything since she was very young, she finally kills this guy with her magic.  Then she is sent to the tower in Orlais where she was locked up again, and she only had a way out by joining the Wardens. 

Yes, I'd love to see her in the game, I think she is fantastic character.  Her backstory was emotional.   In the book it really surprised me in regards to her relationship with Maric, how they were attracted to each other.  I have often wondered how much Duncan actually told Alistiar (if she is his mother).   I'd also like to know how she is taintless now.  How did that really happened?  Her story also shows the hardships of being a mage, an elf, and a warden. 

I can also see Maric being a womanizer, it's been discussed alot that Alistair isn't the only bastard and it's wondered ingame if Calian had any.   If you are a female warden and you take Loghain into your party, Loghain makes a crack on losing Alistair that you'll thank him for that later?????  Even if your a noble female and you persuade Alistair in becoming his wife, he basically tells you...yeah, I need a kid, so I'll be screwing around!  .   It's implied that all three Theirin men were womanizers.   Not necessairly proven, but implied.

I dont see how you feel Theirin men are womanizers;)

I also cringe at that term because it implies the women they are involved with have/had no culpability in terms of their relationships with Theirin men. It also sounds like the women are victims of the situation and fails to recognize they have a choice. 

Fiona would be great tho, shes the perfect person to help rally the mages.

I'm fairly certain I gave a synopsis of the conversations that gave me this feeling in the game.  Please reread my post please. 

(Spoilers):
Ok, let's take Maric's story.  In the book The Stolen Throne he is engaged to marry Eamon and Tegan's sister Rowan, whom he does later marry and she is Cailan's mother.  During the war and their engagement Maric has an affair with the elf Katriel.  This woman is an Orlesian spy which Rowan and Loghain figure out,  they present the informtion to Maric and Maric kills the love of his life Katriel.  From my understanding of medival history betrothel means that is a binding marriage contract which Maric broke to Rowan.  In medival times this would have been considered a breach of contract.  However Rowan and Loghain weren't exactly open and honest either since Rowan and Loghain have an affair in the book before Rowan marries Maric.  I'd say Maric and Loghain both were womanizers.  Maric and Rowan only married because it was best for Ferelden.

Human Noble Females in a relationship with Alistair are as good as told that he does need an heir and the Human Noble Warden or any other female character can't give him one.  He basically is telling you, thanks for my throne, but I'll be sleeping with other women to get that heir.  When the any female character is sent to Vigils Keep as the Warden Commander you are basically set aside.  No explanation has been given on why this happened and its Alistair sending you to become the Warden Commander and you've only been married to him (if you choose this route) for six months.  Alistair uses any female warden to gain his throne, then he tries to dump her after the landsmeet.  It also comes down to how you want to roleplay this as well.  Yet his explanation doesn't jive with Sophia Dryden's storyline because she had children and she was a warden.  She also became a warden very young according to the lore, or its a flat-out lie by Levi Dryden that he is her great-great-great grandson. 

It's implied in both ways with Calian depending on who you talk with in game if he was faithful to Anora or not.  It's also mention in the game does he have any bastards walking around.  Once again implied unfaithfulness on Calian's part.  Not proven fact, it's just implied in the game. If Anora is barren as suggested in the game, Cailan would have been in the same position, he needed an heir, if Anora couldn't give him one, he had to set her aside like Eamon wanted him to do or sleep around on her and claim his bastard is heir.  Thus womanizer. 

I guess this is viewed differently by men vs women gamers.  When you play a female characters vs a male character you get different dialogue.  Same with what origin you choose in the original game.  No mage, nor elf can every marry Alistair, they can only persuade him to become his mistress.  He also really doesn't want to do this IMHO and yet you get the best outcome in epligoue slides this way. 

Gaider even said during one of the gaming conventions that Alistair never really loved any female character and I don't know if he was joking or not. 

[leighzard]

Okay, this totally isn't about Fiona, but I'm going to digress anyways, and for that, I'm sorry...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

During the war and their engagement Maric has an affair with the elf Katriel. However Rowan and Loghain weren't exactly open and honest either since Rowan and Loghain have an affair in the book before Rowan marries Maric. I'd say Maric and Loghain both were womanizers.

One extramarital affair does not a womanizer make. Although Maric's string of lovers is definitely implied by the game (and I personally whole-heartedly agree with your assessment of his character), Loghain's only transgression is falling in love with a woman who is promised to another, and who also loves him in return. As far as I know, he was faithful to Anora's mother and did not wreck any other homes.

Human Noble Females in a relationship with Alistair are as good as told that he does need an heir and the Human Noble Warden or any other female character can't give him one.

Yeah, this sucks. It's not cool. But it's my understanding that Grey Wardens really can't have children. It's explained that Wardens with children had them before the Joining. Of course Fiona (look! relevant to the thread) did it, but it's possible that by the time she conceived she'd been cured of the taint. So at the very least, it's extremely difficult for one Warden to conceive a child, let alone two. Gaider has said that Alistair often makes his worst decisions when he "lets his duty rule his heart." But I personally never took that as a sign of a strong desire to be unfaithful. It would be like saying he's a womanizer just because he completes Morrigan's dark ritual. You asked him to do it, it's for the good of the country, and he's not necessarily going to enjoy it. But that's just how I rationalize it in my head. I didn't see Awakenings the casting aside of the Warden, either. Alistair certainly wasn't cold toward the Warden if he was king. I think his character is a little too bumbling to have the wherewithal to pretend to still be in love her (or to have done so from the beginning), if he has other schemes in the works.

It's implied in both ways with Calian depending on who you talk with in game if he was faithful to Anora or not. Not proven fact, it's just implied in the game.

I can totally see this interpretation of Cailan's character. I'm not sure if it was my first thought when I originally played the game, but there's enough evidence that you can infer it if you want. But if Anora is barren, he does have to produce an heir some way. Infertility has, in certain times and places, been enough to get a girl beheaded. So if Cailan is trying to produce an heir and is transparent in that process, but wants to keep Anora as his queen because he does truly love her, I don't see that as womanizing, only a means to an end.

No mage, nor elf can every marry Alistair, they can only persuade him to become his mistress. He also really doesn't want to do this IMHO and yet you get the best outcome in epligoue slides this way.

Or Alistair can not become king and he and a Warden of any origin can run away and Grey-Warden together to the end of time with no implied unfaithfulness.

Gaider even said during one of the gaming conventions that Alistair never really loved any female character and I don't know if he was joking or not.

Aww, he didn't mean that... I hope.

Anyway, I can ceratainly see where you're coming from with your analysis and it's certainly valid without even stretching the imagination, but I think there's a good deal more wiggle room in there.  After all, BW loves a morally ambiguous situation.

Modifié par leborum, 08 janvier 2013 - 08:31 .

[Addai]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

I'd say Maric and Loghain both were womanizers.  Maric and Rowan only married because it was best for Ferelden.

  Sleeping with one woman apiece qualifies you as a womanizer?  Maybe we have different understandings of that term.

Maric was an idiot, but he didn't chase skirts.  With both Katriel and Fiona, it was the woman who initiated the sexual relationship, and he developed an emotional attachment in both cases.

Human Noble Females in a relationship with Alistair are as good as told that he does need an heir and the Human Noble Warden or any other female character can't give him one.  He basically is telling you, thanks for my throne, but I'll be sleeping with other women to get that heir. 

This is about duty, not womanizing.  In fact it's the opposite.  He doesn't like the idea of keeping the Warden as mistress and has to be persuaded to do it.  If he was a womanizer, he'd be thrilled at the idea.

When the any female character is sent to Vigils Keep as the Warden Commander you are basically set aside.  No explanation has been given on why this happened and its Alistair sending you to become the Warden Commander and you've only been married to him (if you choose this route) for six months.  Alistair uses any female warden to gain his throne, then he tries to dump her after the landsmeet. 

Whaaat.  Alistair doesn't want the throne, first of all.  If the Warden puts him there, that is completely on her (and Eamon).  Secondly if you go to Amaranthine it's not because the monarch ordered you there.  They do give you a speech about it being your responsibility etc. but the Wardens aren't royal guard.

You must play pitiful Wardens if they blame Alistair for everything that happens to them ever.

Cailan was probably a womanizer, though we have this only by secondhand report.

Gaider even said during one of the gaming conventions that Alistair never really loved any female character and I don't know if he was joking or not. 

OMG.  He was kidding.  This was in a thread, BTW, where some fangirl was hysterical over the Cailan-Anora snowglobe in Awakening because she thought it was Alistair in there.  Do you really need the writer to tell you that Alistair cares deeply for the Warden if he's in a relationship with her?  It's..  pretty obvious.

Modifié par Addai67, 08 janvier 2013 - 08:34 .

[Noviere]

I think part of the problem here is that ElvaliaRavenHart is not using the term womanizer in the right way(no offense intended, Elvalia).

A womanizer is someone who enjoys short sexual relationships with many women(aka a ****, player, philanderer, whatever).

Loghain had one affair.

Maric had one affair, that we know of.

Alistair is a virgin when he meets the Warden. While he does tell the Warden he will need to produce an heir even if he marries her, that doesn't imply he is a philanderer. It tells me he realizes how important an heir is to the stability of a monarchy, and that he is willing to set aside his personal happiness for the good of the kingdom.

Also, ccording to David Gaider Grey Wardens can have children... The odds are just lower. But, two Gray Wardens cannot produce a child together at all. (Source)

Modifié par Noviere, 08 janvier 2013 - 10:00 .

[Cobra's_back]

Northern Sun wrote...

If she is Alistair's mother, I'd love to see them meet and have a conversation, especially if Alistair is king.

I would love it if she could free him from the taint.

[Cobra's_back]

Noviere
"Maric had one affair, that we know of" He actually had two, One in the Calling and one in Stone Throne.

[PsychoBlonde]

leborum wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...
Eh, we'll see.  I didn't like her character much in The Calling--she felt like a parody of far too many Injured Romance Novel Heroines Who Are Saved When They Finally Meet A Nice Guy.  She's got a chip on her shoulder the size of Par Vollen.

I don't get this.  If anything it's the other way around.  Maric was a mess and at the end he's found peace again and can return to his duties.  Fiona changes her opinion about him, that's all.

I interpreted it that way as well.  It's not like she's been through one too many bad break-ups.  I can understand why Fiona has that chip, but I don't think it's a character flaw, just her world view after the experiences she went through prior to joining the Wardens.  I doubt very much that her relationship with Maric changed that or made her any less cautious when meeting new people.  I suspect that people still have to work very hard to impress her or earn her trust.

And that's part of what makes me wonder what led her to return to the Circle.  She doesn't seem like the sort to have a sudden epiphany that she needs to return to her roots and fight the good fight.  She struck me as more pragmatic than idealistic.  I almost wonder if she was pushed out of the Wardens in part due to her experiences with the Architect (who I would also like to see return in DA3, even if it's just a mention of how the events of Awakenings/The Calling have impacted the Wardens).

I think part of it is that I spent almost all of The Calling wishing I could slap the stupid out of Maric so the whole Maric/Fiona thing became INTENSELY annoying to me.

[LPPrince]

Yes, I'd like to meet Alistair's real mom.

[leighzard]

Noviere wrote...

Also, ccording to David Gaider Grey Wardens can have children... The odds are just lower. But, two Gray Wardens cannot produce a child together at all. (Source)

Thanks for the clarification there, and source confirmation!

ghostbusters101 wrote...

Noviere
"Maric had one affair, that we know of" He actually had two, One in the Calling and one in Stone Throne.

Yeah, but Rowan was dead by then. He was technically a free agent. I don't know if any relationship outside of marriage is frowned upon or not. It still wouldn't produce a legitimate heir, but I think it's more socially acceptable than a relationship carried on during a betrothal, even if that marriage is arranged for socio-political reasons. I suppose that's just a silly semantic argument though.  I don't know if it plays any real bearing in the DA universe.

PsychoBlonde wrote...

I think part of it is that I spent almost all of The Calling wishing I could slap the stupid out of Maric so the whole Maric/Fiona thing became INTENSELY annoying to me.

Ha! Totally understandable. I wanted to slap some stupid out of him during The Stolen Throne, too. Fortunately Loghain did it for me.

That said, I'd still like to see Fiona play a role in DA:I. I think she has a lot to offer any mage storyline, courtesy of the events in Asunder, and some very interesting information about Grey Wardens, based on what happened in The Calling. And I can't help but wonder if/how the two are connected.

Modifié par leborum, 08 janvier 2013 - 10:38 .

[Cobra's_back]

Leborum,

Good Point.

I forgot Rowan died.

I also wanted to know more about this:

"That said, I'd still like to see Fiona play a role in DA:I. I think she has a lot to offer any mage storyline, courtesy of the events in Asunder, and some very interesting information about Grey Wardens, based on what happened in The Calling. And I can't help but wonder if/how the two are connected. "

Great post Leborum.

Modifié par ghostbusters101, 08 janvier 2013 - 10:47 .

[leighzard]

Thanks!

This chick google booked Asunder for me:
"I came to the Circle from the Grey Wardens because I saw something had to be done. In the Wardens, we learn to watch for our moment and seize it - and that moment is now." --Fiona, p.341

Of course that's also speech rhetoric, so make of it what you will.

Modifié par leborum, 09 janvier 2013 - 12:23 .

[DragonMage95]

Urzon wrote...

While I enjoy the theory of her being Alistair's mother, I can very easily see Maric having numerous bastard children running around Ferelden, maybe even beyound. Alistair being one of said numerous bastard children.

I disagree, from what ive read about Maric in the books and other things he was actually somewhat faithful,he never really cheated on Queen Rowan, he had a lover before they married and after she died, and its only rumor that he had an affair with a maid/servant(Alistairs possible mother)  during his marriage. Maric was actually a pretty good guy so I doubt he has a bunch of bastards lying around. But to each his own I guess.

[DragonMage95]

Northern Sun wrote...

If she is Alistair's mother, I'd love to see them meet and have a conversation, especially if Alistair is king.

Me too, but I didn't make Alistair king. Also, I wonder how Alistair would react to his mother being a mage and a former grey warden. Alistair seems to be neutral towards mages but he seems to have insecurities about them because of his templar training, I think it would be interesting to see how he would feel and react knowing he was once a templar and his mother is mage. 

[LobselVith8]

DomRod95 wrote...

Northern Sun wrote...

If she is Alistair's mother, I'd love to see them meet and have a conversation, especially if Alistair is king.

Me too, but I didn't make Alistair king. Also, I wonder how Alistair would react to his mother being a mage and a former grey warden. Alistair seems to be neutral towards mages but he seems to have insecurities about them because of his templar training, I think it would be interesting to see how he would feel and react knowing he was once a templar and his mother is mage. 

King Alistair didn't seem neutral to me. He's still arguing about the Magi Boon several years later, and protecting apostates from templars even if The Warden wasn't a mage.

[Addai]

leborum wrote...

Thanks!

This chick google booked Asunder for me:
"I came to the Circle from the Grey Wardens because I saw something had to be done. In the Wardens, we learn to watch for our moment and seize it - and that moment is now." --Fiona, p.341

Of course that's also speech rhetoric, so make of it what you will.

Yeah.  I guess I liked it better when Fiona was researching ways to save the world.  I'm just so sick of the mage-templar war thing.

The other question is why on earth the Circle would make a Grey Warden their top dog.  Someone in the Chantry was asleep at the wheel.

[DragonMage95]

LobselVith8 wrote...

DomRod95 wrote...

Northern Sun wrote...

If she is Alistair's mother, I'd love to see them meet and have a conversation, especially if Alistair is king.

Me too, but I didn't make Alistair king. Also, I wonder how Alistair would react to his mother being a mage and a former grey warden. Alistair seems to be neutral towards mages but he seems to have insecurities about them because of his templar training, I think it would be interesting to see how he would feel and react knowing he was once a templar and his mother is mage. 

King Alistair didn't seem neutral to me. He's still arguing about the Magi Boon several years later, and protecting apostates from templars even if The Warden wasn't a mage.

 Yeah but I feel Alistair does that because he does what he feels is the right and fair thing to do, not necessarily because hes on the mages side, thats why i said hes neutral, because he doesnt pick sides he just does the right thing, whatever that may be. 

[leighzard]

DomRod95 wrote...

from what ive read about Maric in the books and other things he was actually somewhat faithful... and its only rumor that he had an affair with a maid/servant(Alistairs possible mother) during his marriage.

Which I personally believe was a convenient opportunity to insert Alistair into a "normal" life (meaning one where he wasn't the descendent of an elven mage Grey Warden and the King of Ferelden).  I still think that there was a pregnant servant who died in childbirth along with the baby, and Duncan/Maric/Eamon saw that they could use this as the origin of Alistair and claim he was the king's to avert any other inquiry.  So they gave Goldana some money, and the guy who really got the servant girl pregnant was probably more than happy to be relieved of  responsibility, and the rest... history.

Addai67 wrote...

The other question is why on earth the Circle would make a Grey Warden their top dog.  Someone in the Chantry was asleep at the wheel.

That is an excellent point.  I can't for the life of me imagine why the establishment (and I use this with no anarchical connotation) would want someone who had left the Circle and lived in the relative freedom of the Wardens to return to lead the mages.  That seems like a recipe for uprising now that you mention it.

Modifié par leborum, 09 janvier 2013 - 02:14 .

[AlexanderCousland]

The reason I dont believe that Alistair is Fiona' s son is because she asked that the child have a normal life, Duncan was there when that baby was born, even if he and Maric decided to give the baby to Eamon, Why would Duncan EVER conscript that child knowing himself the price Grey Warden' s have to pay? Fiona was like a sister to Duncan, I could see Duncan conscripting Maric' s bastard but not Fiona' s son. I have a feeling that we are yet to meet him.

Plus im unhappy with the way Gaider seem' s to be taking Alistair with the Blood of Dragon' s thing which is clearly a rip from Ice and Fire (game of thrones), that seems to make his life crucial to the next game. So, I hoping he' s not the only son because I have a feeling im going to need that blood.

Fiona would be a nice character to see in-game because she might be able to answer some of these questions.

[duckley]

I need to re-read Asunder, but I was very disappointed by Fiona. To me, she is another Anders - very short-sighted and insular.Her personal suffering (like Loghain) may help us to understand decisions she makes, but if her actions lead to death and destruction (like Loghain) then I dont really give a hoot about her background.

If Fiona is ASlistairs mother, I think Alistair would have a major melt down - poor guy. To find out much of his life has been a lie ( i.e. that his mother was not a serving girl), and then to find out that he is half elf, half-mage (so what happens if Alistair has a mage child as an heir to the throne!!!), and that the father figure in his life (Duncan) not only knew the truth, but conspired to keep it from him. Talk about pulling the rug from out under your feet.

The other interesting thing is that I would assume that Alistair would be somewhat like-minded and aligned with Leliana and Wynne - a moderate stance regarding resoluition to the Mage-Templar "problem". He would likley find himself on opposite sides of the table to his"mother".
I do wonder on which side Rhys will land up.

Well - guess we have to wait to find out how the story ends!

[LobselVith8]

DomRod95 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

King Alistair didn't seem neutral to me. He's still arguing about the Magi Boon several years later, and protecting apostates from templars even if The Warden wasn't a mage.

 
Yeah but I feel Alistair does that because he does what he feels is the right and fair thing to do, not necessarily because hes on the mages side, thats why i said hes neutral, because he doesnt pick sides he just does the right thing, whatever that may be.

If Alistair arguing for the Magi Boon, he's arguing for mages in Ferelden to be free of the Chantry and the templars so they can govern themselves. I agree that he thinks it's right and fair, but I don't think that makes him neutral if he thinks mages in his nation should be free of Chantry control. Even without the Magi Boon being requested, he's protecting apostates from the templars.

Hope Anora isn't ignored in Inquisition. She had some great ideas to innovate Ferelden, and she was as progressive as Alistair.

[In Exile]

LobselVith8 wrote...
If Alistair arguing for the Magi Boon, he's arguing for mages in Ferelden to be free of the Chantry and the templars so they can govern themselves.

He is, however, making them subject to the Ferelden crown (that's implied by the idea that he has the authority to declare them free in the first place). I'm not sure that "govern themselves" is distinct from how the Alienage can govern itself if you pick the CE boon (i.e., representation at the Landsmeet).

Hope Anora isn't ignored in Inquisition. She had some great ideas to innovate Ferelden, and she was as progressive as Alistair.

I didn't get the impression Anora was progressive.

[Addai]

FreshIstay wrote...

The reason I dont believe that Alistair is Fiona' s son is because she asked that the child have a normal life, Duncan was there when that baby was born, even if he and Maric decided to give the baby to Eamon, Why would Duncan EVER conscript that child knowing himself the price Grey Warden' s have to pay? Fiona was like a sister to Duncan, I could see Duncan conscripting Maric' s bastard but not Fiona' s son. I have a feeling that we are yet to meet him.

Because he was miserable as a templar and the Grand Cleric was determined to keep him.

Plus im unhappy with the way Gaider seem' s to be taking Alistair with the Blood of Dragon' s thing which is clearly a rip from Ice and Fire (game of thrones), that seems to make his life crucial to the next game. So, I hoping he' s not the only son because I have a feeling im going to need that blood.

Fiona would be a nice character to see in-game because she might be able to answer some of these questions.

It's standard fantasy and if anything taken from Arthurian legend which the devs have stated is an influence.  I suspect that Maric isn't dead and there could always be a cousin in the Bannorn somewhere.

If only we got more Song of Ice and Fire in future installments...

[In Exile]

Addai67 wrote...
It's standard fantasy and if anything taken from Arthurian legend which the devs have stated is an influence.  I suspect that Maric isn't dead and there could always be a cousin in the Bannorn somewhere.

Alternatively Alistair isn't Fiona's son, and DG will use that character as replacement Alistair if you need a Theiren in DA.

[Aeowyn]

[quote]duckley wrote...

I need to re-read Asunder, but I was very disappointed by Fiona. To me, she is another Anders - very short-sighted and insular.Her personal suffering (like Loghain) may help us to understand decisions she makes, but if her actions lead to death and destruction (like Loghain) then I dont really give a hoot about her background. [/quote]

How on Earth do you figure that one out? She is a Libertarian, not an abomination, and the Libertarians have been around since DAO, so wanting to leave the Circle is not a new stance. Furthermore, she put forward the motion to separate the Circle from the Chantry in a time when the discussion was really needed. The Templars attacking the mini-conclave would have happened anyway. 

[quote]
If Fiona is ASlistairs mother, I think Alistair would have a major melt down - poor guy. To find out much of his life has been a lie ( i.e. that his mother was not a serving girl), and then to find out that he is half elf, half-mage (so what happens if Alistair has a mage child as an heir to the throne!!!), and that the father figure in his life (Duncan) not only knew the truth, but conspired to keep it from him. Talk about pulling the rug from out under your feet.[/quote]

Yes how horrid to find out that you're a half elf with magic in your blood (not everyone made him King, so magic in your line wouldn't matter much. Especially not when the current mage-templar situation looks like it does.)[/quote]

[quote]The other interesting thing is that I would assume that Alistair would be somewhat like-minded and aligned with Leliana and Wynne - a moderate stance regarding resoluition to the Mage-Templar "problem". He would likley find himself on opposite sides of the table to his"mother".
I do wonder on which side Rhys will land up. [/quote]

There is no moderate stance to the Mage-Templar problem anymore. If you remember the final chapter of Asunder that was made quite clear, and Rhys chose to fight against the Templars in the vote. 

Modifié par Aeowyn, 09 janvier 2013 - 08:01 .