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#151
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J. Reezy wrote...

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in pokemon black and white the pokemon started to look more like the old Digimon monsters, I think they are running out of ideas

Really? If so Game Freak should really start bringing back more older generation Pokemon.

don't they do that anyway once you beat the game? part of the world opens up and suddenly a bunch of sideduck spam the world with yellow

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Tharja wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

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in pokemon black and white the pokemon started to look more like the old Digimon monsters, I think they are running out of ideas

Really? If so Game Freak should really start bringing back more older generation Pokemon.

don't they do that anyway once you beat the game? part of the world opens up and suddenly a bunch of sideduck spam the world with yellow

Lol.

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Yup. Pokémon already has a winning formula there is no need for Game Freak to do a 360 and make it a wrpg.


Speak for yourself.

I'm not interested in a BioWare styled game where the only way to obtain Mewtwo is to romance him and solve his daddy Giovanni issues.

But an open ended, open world game structured similarly to Arcanum or Fallout 1/2, with a combat system that took cues from FFT or Tactics Ogre (not wrpgs I know), would be monumentally epic.

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CrustyBot wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

Yup. Pokémon already has a winning formula there is no need for Game Freak to do a 360 and make it a wrpg.


Speak for yourself.

I'm not interested in a BioWare styled game where the only way to obtain Mewtwo is to romance him and solve his daddy Giovanni issues.

But an open ended, open world game structured similarly to Arcanum or Fallout 1/2, with a combat system that took cues from FFT or Tactics Ogre (not wrpgs I know), would be monumentally epic.


As long as it is just that. A Bioware styled "romance" simulator would actually ruin my childhood.

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#155
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Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 already had a waifu and husbando.

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And they were better than anything Bioware ever did because they give you Pokémon like Wobbuffet and Phanpy.

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Someday I'll get back to Black 2. I pretty much abandoned it after the Elite Four once Fire Emblem came out.

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All this info.

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Skelter192 wrote...

Someday I'll get back to Black 2. I pretty much abandoned it after the Elite Four once Fire Emblem came out.

Good choice.

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Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 already had a waifu and husbando.

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I'm not sure I can continue with the Pokémon games anymore. I couldn't even make it through Pokémon Black(or was it White?).

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LPPrince wrote...

I'm not sure I can continue with the Pokémon games anymore. I couldn't even make it through Pokémon Black(or was it White?).

Have they just been shallow rehashes for the past couple years? If so I'm glad I haven't played one since FireRed. This newest one will just feel fresh to me.

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So do I man. But this new fairy type sounds pretty lame. I mean really. They couldn't think of anything better than fairies?

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Arch1eviathan wrote...

So do I man. But this new fairy type sounds pretty lame. I mean really. They couldn't think of anything better than fairies?


Nope,

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It's actually looking pretty good. Am I the only one seeing some goofy face on the cars? They arn't driving in Pokemon are they?

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Fairy type sounds fine to me. Already had crap like "dragon" and "dark" which make no sense as offensive types, hence why a lot of the dragon and dark attacks just sound like flavored normal-type, flying-type, or other such-type attacks. ("crunch," "twister," etc.)

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Kinda want it, but don't have a 3DS and won't buy one just for that.

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Actually, fairy type doesn't seem that outlandish. Given that there's a Dark type, having an opposing one would actually make sense.

I could do without it being named fairy (Light would be better IMO) but otherwise, not a problem for me.

And God damn do I love that Y Legendary. Dude looks so ****ing badass.

Still hate that abomination they made Mewtwo into though.

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Fairy type sounds fine to me. Already had crap like "dragon" and "dark" which make no sense as offensive types, hence why a lot of the dragon and dark attacks just sound like flavored normal-type, flying-type, or other such-type attacks. ("crunch," "twister," etc.)


Dark's more about underhandedness in battle, which biting your foe would pretty much constitute. 

Twister... well... given that Kingdra creates twisters when it yawns and is part Dragon, I can understand it. Would it make more sense as a sort of flying type of attack? Possibly, though aside from the fact Gust constitutes that one should note that Japanese Dragons -- and the Pokemon setting is loosely based on Japan's geography, save for Unova which is NYC -- were associated with water and some were seen as gods of the ocean.

Currently reading a bit about that now, but I think the reason why it's considered a Dragon type move is based in part on Japanese dragon folklore. Probably just a small smidgeon though.

Not that twisters and the like are strictly an oceanic sight, mind you. 

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Dark's more about underhandedness in battle, which biting your foe would pretty much constitute.

See, that would sit better with me if there was not also a normal-type move named bite. I mean, if it's just normal + malice, shouldn't that mean there should also be dark fire, dark ice, etc.?

Er, ok, I guess bite has been dark type since generation 2. Hmph. Still seems to be a kind of "evil normal" with occasional eldritch moves type. I was just saying it seems like more of a mindset behind an attack rather than an actual type of attack.

Twister... well... given that Kingdra creates twisters when it yawns and is part Dragon, I can understand it. Would it make more sense as a sort of flying type of attack? Possibly, though aside from the fact Gust constitutes that one should note that Japanese Dragons -- and the Pokemon setting is loosely based on Japan's geography, save for Unova which is NYC -- were associated with water and some were seen as gods of the ocean.

Currently reading a bit about that now, but I think the reason why it's considered a Dragon type move is based in part on Japanese dragon folklore. Probably just a small smidgeon though.

Not that twisters and the like are strictly an oceanic sight, mind you. 

I dunno, Twister to me is a Dragon-type using a wind attack, where Flying is basically pokemon's "wind." I guess that could be my error though, and more than one pokemon "type" could conceivably have some dominion over the traditional element of "wind." Flying is more about birds I suppose, which includes wind, and beaks. Dragon also includes wind, and... being a dragon. Again a lot of the things seem like normal moves that are just called dragon type because they involve the dragon's anatomy, like Dragon Tail or Dragon Claw.

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J. Reezy wrote...

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I'm not sure I can continue with the Pokémon games anymore. I couldn't even make it through Pokémon Black(or was it White?).

Have they just been shallow rehashes for the past couple years? If so I'm glad I haven't played one since FireRed. This newest one will just feel fresh to me.

The gameplay is better since the days of FR/LG. Types are no longer physical and special, instead attack moves are. And that's better since it made no sense to have Ghost types be physical. lol But at the same time the games are more easy now with healers in like every dungeon.


As for the Fairy type, we need it. 

It is weak to Poison and Steel,  

-2  

immune to Dragon, super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting, +4
and Fire and Psychic-type Pokemon take half damage from it.
-2  

-2+4-2=0. Perfectly balanced basically. Granted, thats *super* simplified math, because offenses aren't the same as defenses, and an immunity should count for more than just a resistance, and it doesn't take into account how rare or common the other type of moves might be... but it provides an overall scale of how many things it can hurt and how many things can hurt it. (Basically its math that doesn't show how competivie a thing is... just how screwed or ahead it is overall. Grass is the most screwed, steel the best off.)  

Of course, the television special seems to indicate a resistance to ice and maybe a weakness to fight... hard to say. (But if it is boh of those things then its still balanced.)

If anything its an addition thats been needed and a long time coming to help mix things up in a way that a sheer graphic update alone wouldn't.  

Heck, think of how many old critters can become fresh, relevant and new again with a new typing, (Mawile being the most interesting case if it becoming steel/fairy true.) and how much it instantly changes other things like fixing some of the misbalance that dragons have. (Fairy/Dragon seems to be the duality being made here)

Mawile would be...  
immune to poison and dragon, neutral to steel
strong against bug, dark, flying, ghost, grass, ice, normal, psychic, rock. (13 resistances!)  
weak to... fight, fire, ground? (So maybe 4x weak to fight?)  

Super effective against Ice, Rock, Dragon, Dark, and Fighting. 
Unable to hurt fire, psychic, electric, steel, water.

Much more intriguing than just making Clefairy into a fairy. (And Blissey becomes even scarier if it gets the type.)

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J. Reezy wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

I'm not sure I can continue with the Pokémon games anymore. I couldn't even make it through Pokémon Black(or was it White?).

Have they just been shallow rehashes for the past couple years? If so I'm glad I haven't played one since FireRed. This newest one will just feel fresh to me.


Well with each new Pokémon game the combat does feel tighter and there is always a significant amount of content added in.

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I want it because;
Character customization.
Animated pokebattles.
3D world.
It's pokemon.

The only downside is having to deal with more mental new gen pokes.
I can live with that I guess. I want it this new pokemon game too~

#172
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There was a massive leak from a Spanish-speaking source. If it's true, it basically spoils the whole game.

Type retcons, evos, prevos, Legendaries, gyms, Elite Four, villainous teams... Everything is here. 

It will probably be confirmed or debunked on Pokemon Smash. Neat if true. But a bit too close to that report from a month or two ago for my taste.

Modifié par Some Geth, 15 mai 2013 - 10:14 .


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I can't believe Pokemon is still going. I was dying for a console version a decade ago, and to be honest I'd still pick it up if it was released today. But I left the handheld series a long time ago. Red, Blue, Yellow, Gold, Silver. But once I got to Crystal, that was it for me.

Come to think of it, I did pick up Heart Gold, but barely played it. I think overall the series deviated from what I loved about the originals.

Still, catching 150 pokemon in Red was cool and an unimaginable waste of my, and my brother's, childhood.

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Oh I am so getting this.

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Pokemon X & Y hour and half Nintendo Direct at E3.