VirginBlack wrote...
JBPBRC wrote...
Talking about Harbinger even attempting a shot at the Normandy at any point during the evac scene.
Why would he bother? The Normandy was not opening fire and was actually taking people away from the beam.
majinstrings wrote...
Destroy a ship that isn't firing on you and is instead picking up a couple of badly wounded soldiers with the intent of immediately fleeing the battlefield
or
Continue firing on the soldiers running towards the beam and keep them from reaching the Citadel
...Harbinger is a machine...he made the 'logical' choice to keep the enemy out of the Citadel...the Normandy wasn't posing a threat, Hammer was...
2112.rush wrote...
I wouldn't have a problem with this idea, except HARBINGER ISN'T SHOOTING during the evac scene. You can actually see Harbinger sitting in the background and doing nothing while the scene is going on.
And no sound of his weapons fire is to be heard at all. The only weapon sounds you here are the Cutscene Avengers the troopers are using to fend of...what exactly? Marauder Shields?
CronoDragoon wrote...
2112.rush wrote...
I wouldn't have a problem with this idea, except HARBINGER ISN'T SHOOTING during the evac scene. You can actually see Harbinger sitting in the background and doing nothing while the scene is going on.
And no sound of his weapons fire is to be heard at all. The only weapon sounds you here are the Cutscene Avengers the troopers are using to fend of...what exactly? Marauder Shields?
I think that was more of a stylistic choice for the like 10 seconds where Shepard is saying goodbye. Everything gets turned waaaay low, and they show Harbinger for like a second not shooting. I think if you were to ask BioWare if Harby was shooting while he was saying goodbye they'd say yes.
Well, remember, it's a video game...2112.rush wrote...
majinstrings wrote...
Destroy a ship that isn't firing on you and is instead picking up a couple of badly wounded soldiers with the intent of immediately fleeing the battlefield
or
Continue firing on the soldiers running towards the beam and keep them from reaching the Citadel
...Harbinger is a machine...he made the 'logical' choice to keep the enemy out of the Citadel...the Normandy wasn't posing a threat, Hammer was...
I wouldn't have a problem with this idea, except HARBINGER ISN'T SHOOTING during the evac scene. You can actually see Harbinger sitting in the background and doing nothing while the scene is going on.
And no sound of his weapons fire is to be heard at all. The only weapon sounds you here are the Cutscene Avengers the troopers are using to fend of...what exactly? Marauder Shields?
Sousabird wrote...
Cause better to ignore a stationary vehicle than let a tank inside the citadel imo
the thing which contains the big coordination center for whole war asset system
CronoDragoon wrote...
2112.rush wrote...
I wouldn't have a problem with this idea, except HARBINGER ISN'T SHOOTING during the evac scene. You can actually see Harbinger sitting in the background and doing nothing while the scene is going on.
And no sound of his weapons fire is to be heard at all. The only weapon sounds you here are the Cutscene Avengers the troopers are using to fend of...what exactly? Marauder Shields?
I think that was more of a stylistic choice for the like 10 seconds where Shepard is saying goodbye. Everything gets turned waaaay low, and they show Harbinger for like a second not shooting. I think if you were to ask BioWare if Harby was shooting while he was saying goodbye they'd say yes.
2112.rush wrote...
HARBINGER ISN'T SHOOTING during the evac scene. You can actually see Harbinger sitting in the background and doing nothing while the scene is going on.
Modifié par VirginBlack, 08 janvier 2013 - 09:29 .
LucasShark wrote...
You can have a stylistic choice that gravity doesn't work for a minute, but that doesn't make it any less plausable.
Modifié par CronoDragoon, 08 janvier 2013 - 09:31 .
Modifié par archangel1996, 08 janvier 2013 - 09:35 .
majinstrings wrote...
Well, remember, it's a video game...2112.rush wrote...
majinstrings wrote...
Destroy a ship that isn't firing on you and is instead picking up a couple of badly wounded soldiers with the intent of immediately fleeing the battlefield
or
Continue firing on the soldiers running towards the beam and keep them from reaching the Citadel
...Harbinger is a machine...he made the 'logical' choice to keep the enemy out of the Citadel...the Normandy wasn't posing a threat, Hammer was...
I wouldn't have a problem with this idea, except HARBINGER ISN'T SHOOTING during the evac scene. You can actually see Harbinger sitting in the background and doing nothing while the scene is going on.
And no sound of his weapons fire is to be heard at all. The only weapon sounds you here are the Cutscene Avengers the troopers are using to fend of...what exactly? Marauder Shields?
The sound of his lasers may have been removed so you can hear the conversation with your squad clearly...
Are we really supposed to believe Harbinger stopped firing and that the rest of Hammer didn't take that opportunity to make it onto the Citadel?
The action was just kind of put on pause so you could have one final goodbye with your squad without hearing BZZZZT WHOOOOOM WRAAAAAAAAGH!!! in the background...the Avengers are crickets compared to a freakin' Reaper attack
VirginBlack wrote...
2112.rush wrote...
HARBINGER ISN'T SHOOTING during the evac scene. You can actually see Harbinger sitting in the background and doing nothing while the scene is going on.
They are evacuating, so why bother shooting them if they are running away from the beam? Note how as soon as Shepard returns Harbinger starts shoting anyone getting near the beam again.
LucasShark wrote...
That is what this utterly broken and contrived piece of garbage story litterally showed us!
Modifié par archangel1996, 08 janvier 2013 - 09:38 .
Modifié par mosesarose, 08 janvier 2013 - 09:37 .
VirginBlack wrote...
LucasShark wrote...
That is what this utterly broken and contrived piece of garbage story litterally showed us!
My somone sure feels strongly about this.
archangel1996 wrote...
Good God, come on, he kills in 1-2 seconds 3-4 marines and he is too busy for dealing with Normandy and Shepard?
To me there are two explanations:
Bad writing
He...she...whatever wanted Shepard alive(in fact he doesn't even attempt to kill Shep when he kills the squaddies in low EMS)
www.youtube.com/watch
Harbi shoots behind the squddies insted of shotting infront of them and eventually killing Shep too
The
difference with the evac is that Shep runs to his squad mates and
Harbinger doesn't shoot....i'm sorry, why? Everything is the same as
before, again the only difference, Shep is there....
double
Gewehr_fr wrote...
Personally I liked this scene, just the fact that it could be currently aiming at all the alliance soldiers and makos is enough of a justification, in my opinion. Its primary goal is to prevent us from reaching the beam and taking time to shoot the Normandy could lead to soldiers getting access to the citadel control system which is far more important.
If this is not enough for you... the reapers don't have "eyes", with the Normandy stealth systems perhaps it doesn't appear on Harbinger's sensors.
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LucasShark wrote...
majinstrings wrote...
Well, remember, it's a video game...2112.rush wrote...
majinstrings wrote...
Destroy a ship that isn't firing on you and is instead picking up a couple of badly wounded soldiers with the intent of immediately fleeing the battlefield
or
Continue firing on the soldiers running towards the beam and keep them from reaching the Citadel
...Harbinger is a machine...he made the 'logical' choice to keep the enemy out of the Citadel...the Normandy wasn't posing a threat, Hammer was...
I wouldn't have a problem with this idea, except HARBINGER ISN'T SHOOTING during the evac scene. You can actually see Harbinger sitting in the background and doing nothing while the scene is going on.
And no sound of his weapons fire is to be heard at all. The only weapon sounds you here are the Cutscene Avengers the troopers are using to fend of...what exactly? Marauder Shields?
The sound of his lasers may have been removed so you can hear the conversation with your squad clearly...
Are we really supposed to believe Harbinger stopped firing and that the rest of Hammer didn't take that opportunity to make it onto the Citadel?
The action was just kind of put on pause so you could have one final goodbye with your squad without hearing BZZZZT WHOOOOOM WRAAAAAAAAGH!!! in the background...the Avengers are crickets compared to a freakin' Reaper attack
That is what this utterly broken and contrived piece of garbage story litterally showed us!
You do know they can manipulate audio levels indipendantly right? You do know they could have used shuttles as opposed to a giant floating target right? This was bioware's doing!
archangel1996 wrote...
Gewehr_fr wrote...
Personally I liked this scene, just the fact that it could be currently aiming at all the alliance soldiers and makos is enough of a justification, in my opinion. Its primary goal is to prevent us from reaching the beam and taking time to shoot the Normandy could lead to soldiers getting access to the citadel control system which is far more important.
If this is not enough for you... the reapers don't have "eyes", with the Normandy stealth systems perhaps it doesn't appear on Harbinger's sensors.
majinstrings wrote...
LucasShark wrote...
majinstrings wrote...
Well, remember, it's a video game...2112.rush wrote...
majinstrings wrote...
Destroy a ship that isn't firing on you and is instead picking up a couple of badly wounded soldiers with the intent of immediately fleeing the battlefield
or
Continue firing on the soldiers running towards the beam and keep them from reaching the Citadel
...Harbinger is a machine...he made the 'logical' choice to keep the enemy out of the Citadel...the Normandy wasn't posing a threat, Hammer was...
I wouldn't have a problem with this idea, except HARBINGER ISN'T SHOOTING during the evac scene. You can actually see Harbinger sitting in the background and doing nothing while the scene is going on.
And no sound of his weapons fire is to be heard at all. The only weapon sounds you here are the Cutscene Avengers the troopers are using to fend of...what exactly? Marauder Shields?
The sound of his lasers may have been removed so you can hear the conversation with your squad clearly...
Are we really supposed to believe Harbinger stopped firing and that the rest of Hammer didn't take that opportunity to make it onto the Citadel?
The action was just kind of put on pause so you could have one final goodbye with your squad without hearing BZZZZT WHOOOOOM WRAAAAAAAAGH!!! in the background...the Avengers are crickets compared to a freakin' Reaper attack
That is what this utterly broken and contrived piece of garbage story litterally showed us!
You do know they can manipulate audio levels indipendantly right? You do know they could have used shuttles as opposed to a giant floating target right? This was bioware's doing!
Remember, it's a game...it's not like Bioware is trying to get us to believe that Harbinger is allowing Shepard this final farewell out of the kindness of his heart...er...Reaper equivalent to heart...
Why bother animating and using sound effects when the scene is mostly focusing on Shepard and his squad...
Plus, the DLC was 2GB, wasn't it? I think that's the limit for Xbox Live...they may have had to cut out a few things just to keep it under the 2GB limit...
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