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[Bhatair]

Tirigon wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...


Huzzah for Godwins law.

Which is?

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving ****s or Hitler approaches."

[Herr Uhl]

Tirigon wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...


Huzzah for Godwins law.

Which is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

[Squiggles1334]

Tirigon wrote...

Squiggles1334 wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

So what? She still betrays you.

Only if you were an idiot and betrayed her to Ser Cauthrien first.

And if you try to make Alistair king without talking them into marriage.

Okay, so you choose not to help her at the Landsmeet, she chooses not to help you at the Landsmeet as a result. Sounds pretty fair to me.

Telling a guard that your "crimes" were in fact the rescue of the queen from imprisonment and probable execution is not really idiot-like. You try to convince a good warrior to see you are the good boys and Howe was a traitor who would have been executed anyways, had he survived.... That is what every intelligent person would do. After all, murdering Howe was NOT a crime, since treachery - and imprisoning the rightful queen without reason counts as that - is punishable by death in Ferelden. Not to mention Howe´s slaughter of the Couslands.

She tells you not to blow her cover, doesn't sound very intelligent of a "good warrior" to then turn around and announce at the door your armored companion is Anora.

Besides, do I care for her reasons? She betrays me - she dies (or would, if the game would allow it). That easy.

Considering that every instance she can "betray" you is instigated by you screwing her over first, I don't see how that's really fair to begin with, but whatever, it's your playthrough, not mine.

[Tirigon]

Bhatair wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...


Huzzah for Godwins law.

Which is?

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving ****s or Hitler approaches 1."

Well, Godwin is obviously right.



@Squiggles: So, basically you are saying it´s all right to betray people who do not support you or disobey your command - which you have no right to give? I hope for you your business partners don´t read this topic:P

[Bhatair]

Tirigon wrote...
no right to give

Yeah, ignoring that whole Queen thing there's no reason to listen to her!

[tallon1982]

The fact that she is her father's daughter gives me enough pause not to put her in as queen.

[Herr Uhl]

Tirigon wrote...
@Squiggles: So, basically you are saying it´s all right to betray people who do not support you or disobey your command - which you have no right to give? I hope for you your business partners don´t read this topic:P

Right back at ya!

[Tirigon]

Bhatair wrote...

Tirigon wrote...
no right to give

Yeah, ignoring that whole Queen thing there's no reason to listen to her!

She is queen.
I´m the one with an army and the power to save her f*cking ass - and Ferelden from the Blight, on a sidenote. And my elf mage was in love with Alistair, the true King of Ferelden.
What is more important?

[SarEnyaDor]

Anora will sometimes backstab you even if you went to jail like a good little mouse AND told her you would support her for queen - if when she asks about her father you say that justice needs to be served.

[Herr Uhl]

Obtusifolius wrote...
I knew some smart arse was eventually going to mention Godwin's Law... I think there should be a new Law stating that some clever clogs WILL shout 'Godwin's Law!' the minute someone so much as mentions Hitler

Well, my utter dislike of comparing anything and everything to the third reich fuels my enthusiasm.

[Tirigon]

Obtusifolius wrote...

I knew some smart arse was eventually going to mention Godwin's Law... I think there should be a new Law stating that some clever clogs WILL shout 'Godwin's Law!' the minute someone so much as mentions Hitler

It´s called "Obtusifolius´ law" from now on and has been written in the memories. It shall forever be in power, on the same rank and importance as the gravitation.

[Herr Uhl]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

Anora will sometimes backstab you even if you went to jail like a good little mouse AND told her you would support her for queen - if when she asks about her father you say that justice needs to be served.

Well, I think it is pretty normal not to want to kill your father.

[Squiggles1334]

Tirigon wrote...

@Squiggles: So, basically you are saying it´s all right to betray people who do not support you or disobey your command - which you have no right to give? I hope for you your business partners don´t read this topic:P

More along the lines that you shouldn't act surprised or indignant that someone screws you over as a response to screwing him or her over first.

[Tirigon]

Herr Uhl wrote...
Well, my utter dislike of comparing anything and everything to the third reich fuels my enthusiasm.

Well, my utter dislike of excusing tyrants (even if it´s only in a video game) fuels my enthusiasm to compare a tyrant to Hitler whenever possible.

[SarEnyaDor]

Well- justice didn't have to mean Alistair beheading him and splattering Anora with his blood, but it turned out that way.



Honestly, when I said it to her, I thought he was going to get a trial and THEN be hung on traitor's hill.

[Tirigon]

Squiggles1334 wrote...

More along the lines that you shouldn't act surprised or indignant that someone screws you over as a response to screwing him or her over first.

Let me quote Alistair: "Point taken."

They shouldn´t be surprised that I hate them for screwing me over, though

[Bhatair]

Tirigon wrote...

Bhatair wrote...

Tirigon wrote...
no right to give

Yeah, ignoring that whole Queen thing there's no reason to listen to her!

She is queen.
I´m the one with an army and the power to save her f*cking ass - and Ferelden from the Blight, on a sidenote. And my elf mage was in love with Alistair, the true King of Ferelden.
What is more important?

You don't have anything yet until you appeal to the nobles. If you were to lose the Landsmeet you'd be fighting under Loghain's banner - assuming he'd let you live that is. Liberating Anora is key to ensuring that you win that support at the Landsmeet and out Loghain.

[Herr Uhl]

Tirigon wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...
Well, my utter dislike of comparing anything and everything to the third reich fuels my enthusiasm.

Well, my utter dislike of excusing tyrants (even if it´s only in a video game) fuels my enthusiasm to compare a tyrant to Hitler whenever possible.

So everyone that is not in a democratic country is basically Hitler? Meh, I've gone through this one many times and tire of it. It is about as rewarding as discussing if god is real.

[Tirigon]

Herr Uhl wrote...
Well, I think it is pretty normal not to want to kill your father.

True, but usually your father is not a Traitor who is responsible for the death of thousands, including the king - who is her husband, by the way.
 "Normal" is a word not really fitting to this case.

[Bhatair]

Tirigon wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...
Well, I think it is pretty normal not to want to kill your father.

True, but usually your father is not a Traitor who is responsible for the death of thousands, including the king - who is her husband, by the way.
 "Normal" is a word not really fitting to this case.

He's also seen as a decorated General, responsible for liberating throusands. And he's been seen as such for far longer than as a traitor. It's classic denial.

[Tirigon]

Herr Uhl wrote...

So everyone that is not in a democratic country is basically Hitler? Meh, I've gone through this one many times and tire of it. It is about as rewarding as discussing if god is real.

No, it is not. But saying a ruler is ok IF YOU DON´T BELONG TO UNWANTED RACE / RELIGION XY (here the elves) is crap.

[Few87]

She is most certainly a nasty piece of work!